Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-15 Thread David Mortman
Joshua, I'll leave it up to the event staff to determine how they want to handle it in this on-site case. Certainly someone needs to be empowered or the exercise is pointless. For the community as a whole, does the Board of Directors have the authority to create an ombuds office? -DM On Sun, Se

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-15 Thread Joshua McKenty
David, while I think having an onsite group able to field complaints and address incidents is critical, we need to make sure that such a group has the ability to address any complaints. So I'd suggest we pass this directly to the foundation staff, and make sure that the event coordination team i

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-15 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
Hi All, I am still in the learning process. Any inputs here, I am trying to understand them. So I would have loved to help, but right now, I am also not attending the summit this time. I would like to be involved in understanding how our thought process is going to evolve in this process. Regards

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-15 Thread David Mortman
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:26 PM, David Mortman wrote: > Agreed. There should be at least a small group, especially for events, so > that one person doesn't get hammered but also so there's a committee to > make judgement calls etc. Love the idea of some training too. > Given the closeness of the

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-13 Thread Anne Gentle
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 4:28 PM, John Griffith wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:26 PM, David Mortman wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Anne Gentle wrote >> >>> I think more than one ombudsperson may be needed to assure coverage and >>> avoid anyone being reluctant to report, bu

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-12 Thread John Griffith
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:26 PM, David Mortman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Anne Gentle wrote > >> I think more than one ombudsperson may be needed to assure coverage and >> avoid anyone being reluctant to report, but I'm not familiar with how >> ombuds work in general. I do know tha

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-12 Thread David Mortman
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 2:54 PM, Anne Gentle wrote > I think more than one ombudsperson may be needed to assure coverage and > avoid anyone being reluctant to report, but I'm not familiar with how > ombuds work in general. I do know that I wouldn't ever report something to > a nameless phone numb

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-12 Thread Anne Gentle
of the OpenStack summit to respect the code of >> conduct, even if they are not members of the foundation.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> An ombuds would be very useful. >> >> ** ** >> >> Tim >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> &

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-12 Thread David Mortman
; > ** ** > > Tim > > ** ** > > ** ** > > *From:* David Mortman [mailto:launch...@mortman.com] > *Sent:* 11 September 2013 19:41 > *To:* Anne Gentle > *Cc:* openstack@lists.openstack.org > > *Subject:* Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit a

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Tim Bell
September 2013 19:41 To: Anne Gentle Cc: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible I like the idea of framing it as a code of conduct which definitely has a more positive spin than anti-harassment policy and the general one

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread David Mortman
I like the idea of framing it as a code of conduct which definitely has a more positive spin than anti-harassment policy and the general one you linked to is a great start. I'd love to see something added about consequences of violating the code as well. On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Anne Gent

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread David Mortman
Daniel, Love the click through idea -DM On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 10:07 AM, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 03:53:36PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > > David Mortman wrote: > > > Given the recent and ongoing issues with sexism (not to mention racism, > > > homophobia and gene

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread David Mortman
Agreed 100% On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Lauren Sell wrote: > I also like the PyCon code of conduct and would be interested in adopting > something very similar for our events. > > https://us.pycon.org/2012/codeofconduct/ > > On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: > > I would gre

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread David Mortman
Joshua, Thanks. I'll take a look and post some comments to this thread over the next couple of days. -DM On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Joshua McKenty wrote: > The manner of "who" and "how" to report any concerns is something that the > foundation board, through the transparency committee,

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread George Reese
I agree that for this conference doing it as an email blast and making the text more prominent on the web site are the way to go. I also think for future conferences, when including it in registration, the PyCon "short version" should be on the form rather than click-through reading. I don't kn

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Alex Meade
ge. -Alex -Original Message- From: "Thierry Carrez" Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:11am To: openstack@lists.openstack.org Subject: Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible Eric Windisch wrote: > Are Bill & Ted really our patrons

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Eric Windisch
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > Eric Windisch wrote: > > Are Bill & Ted really our patrons of anti-harassment? We need something > > more substantial than a Bill & Ted quote. Party on! > > I'm not saying what we have is sufficient. I'm just accurately > describing the cur

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Joshua McKenty
The manner of "who" and "how" to report any concerns is something that the foundation board, through the transparency committee, has been trying to address. We don't have a formal ombudsman's office yet, but the draft transparency policy[1] includes some language around this specific responsibi

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Lauren Sell
I also like the PyCon code of conduct and would be interested in adopting something very similar for our events. https://us.pycon.org/2012/codeofconduct/ On Sep 11, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Anne Gentle wrote: > I would greatly support a reporting process for issues for our Summits. > Thanks David fo

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Eric Windisch wrote: > Are Bill & Ted really our patrons of anti-harassment? We need something > more substantial than a Bill & Ted quote. Party on! I'm not saying what we have is sufficient. I'm just accurately describing the current state. -- Thierry Carrez (ttx) _

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Eric Windisch
Are Bill & Ted really our patrons of anti-harassment? We need something more substantial than a Bill & Ted quote. Party on! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_yJFLvmjJY&feature=youtube_gdata_player On Sep 11, 2013 10:12 AM, "Thierry Carrez" wrote: > David Mortman wrote: > > Given the recent and o

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 03:53:36PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: > David Mortman wrote: > > Given the recent and ongoing issues with sexism (not to mention racism, > > homophobia and general bigotry) at tech conferences, I recently engaged > > with several folks on twitter about what was being done

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread John Griffith
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 7:53 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote: > David Mortman wrote: > > Given the recent and ongoing issues with sexism (not to mention racism, > > homophobia and general bigotry) at tech conferences, I recently engaged > > with several folks on twitter about what was being done to make

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
David Mortman wrote: > Given the recent and ongoing issues with sexism (not to mention racism, > homophobia and general bigotry) at tech conferences, I recently engaged > with several folks on twitter about what was being done to make sure > that the Hong Kong Summit was as inclusive as possible re

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Anne Gentle
I would greatly support a reporting process for issues for our Summits. Thanks David for bringing it to the mailing list. I can help in any way needed. One bit of input, I'm not sure wording as strong as "anti-harrassment policy" is required, though that's at the heart of it. We can probably follo

Re: [Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread Annapoornima Koppad
I think the official anti harassment policy is necessary as part of every conference. I would like to contribute towards framing policies. Thanks to David for raising this issue. I plan to use the draft for the local Pyladies Bangalore chapter that am currently running. Warm regards, Annapoornim

[Openstack] Fwd: Making the Hong Kong Summit as inclusive as possible

2013-09-11 Thread David Mortman
Given the recent and ongoing issues with sexism (not to mention racism, homophobia and general bigotry) at tech conferences, I recently engaged with several folks on twitter about what was being done to make sure that the Hong Kong Summit was as inclusive as possible regardless of an attendee's age