On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 02:30:24PM -0400, Robert Martin wrote:
> Dusting off an old statement
>
> The 3PVp will be a semi joke until LL decides to put up a compile farm
> and begin creating "signed builds". Even not using proxies and other
> cloaking all somebody has to do is get the source for a
Robert Martin wrote:
> Dusting off an old statement
> The 3PVp will be a semi joke until LL decides to put up a compile farm
> and begin creating "signed builds". Even not using proxies and other
> cloaking all somebody has to do is get the source for a listed viewer
> and then hack and recompile
It'll be possible to copy content as long as there are viewers. If you
can see it on your screen there is always a way to make a copy that is
reusable. Now obviously, all client issues aside, it's perfectly
possible to identify copies if they are loaded back into SL. As long
as they're not signific
On 2010-04-13, at 13:30, Robert Martin wrote:
> The 3PVp will be a semi joke until LL decides to put up a compile farm
> and begin creating "signed builds".
Oh no! That will mean the ripoff artists will have to port over the
tools they already use to inject code into Warcraft and Everquest!
Dusting off an old statement
The 3PVp will be a semi joke until LL decides to put up a compile farm
and begin creating "signed builds". Even not using proxies and other
cloaking all somebody has to do is get the source for a listed viewer
and then hack and recompile.
Oh and They can't wait until
That is correct. Phillip Linden made the same arguments when he was still
CEO/President of the Lab when people like Prokofy cried and demanded LL take
action to proactively prevent criminal activity on the grid especially when
it involves IP rights. Its a truth that Phillip recognized that authorit
I've heard Linden Labs make this exact same argument multiple times in the
past in response to resident reaction over this, so I'm fairly sure that
they are very fully aware of this fact.
2010/4/13 Ron Festa
> Whether or not these tools are long term effective is irrelevant. The fact
> these too
Whether or not these tools are long term effective is irrelevant. The fact
these tools exist is simply the point Dale was trying to make. The whole
TPVP is a "Feel Good" Policy to delude residents into believing Linden Lab
can prevent the criminal element from having the tools to grief or violate
I
Certain griefer viewers already bypass this form of profiling. I won't
detail how.
Fred Rookstown
On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 16:03 -0700, Erik Anderson wrote:
> Yah, but it might start looking a bit suspicious if it looks like
> you're using computers as one-time pads, always using a different
> syst
Yah, but it might start looking a bit suspicious if it looks like you're
using computers as one-time pads, always using a different system for each
connection for a certain account? Might not be as easily detectable for the
short-term accounts that get banned within minutes, but anything with
hist
В сообщении от Вторник 13 апреля 2010 00:52:48 вы написали:
> There's still other facets. For example, the approved viewers get some
> publicity and reputation by being on the approved viewers page, and it
> makes people think that much harder about using sketchy viewers to do
> sketchy things.
On 04/12/2010 10:52 PM, Celierra Darling wrote:
> (As an aside, connecting from the same account and/or same IP with
> random MACs seems pretty obviously strange and detectable.
Does it? I'd assume someone testing network cards of different
manufacturers for SL compatibility would cause a very simi
There's still other facets. For example, the approved viewers get some
publicity and reputation by being on the approved viewers page, and it makes
people think that much harder about using sketchy viewers to do sketchy
things. (And yeah, they have to do one extra sketchy thing, as Thomas
mention
This was always going to happen, and it will continue to happen. Of
course in this case, the "proxy" counts
as the third party viewer really, and is in violation of the TPV. Not
that violating the TPV really matters.
Tom.
Dale Glass wrote:
> Today I heard that there's already a proxy available
Today I heard that there's already a proxy available that makes a viewer
appear to be one of those in the directory of officially approved third party
viewers. It also randomizes the MAC. I'd rather not link to it, but it's not
hard to find.
So, I wonder, what now? Does LL have some way of tell
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