Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-29 Thread Marc Adored
Yes the API is being shut off completely. Not just that simple translation page most see. The Viewer uses the api so thats why it effects the viewer and tons of other apps. Its not just about monitization although I am sure it is part of it. The API is extremely abused not just by Secondlife and I

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Marc Adored
I think the reason you think some book(s) might be more then what SL would do to google translator is because you have no idea how much text chat traffic SL has. It is way more text then and whole series of books could have every few minutes really. I dont think anyone has said it was SL that has c

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Marc Adored
I like that idea on translate what they want. Also that translating your own text for you is what im talking about. Wastefulness because no restrain was made and yes it should only translate text coming from a viewer with a different language set. This things along with some caching would make it v

Re: [opensource-dev] in-viewer translation is dead soon.

2011-05-28 Thread Marc Adored
I think the main issue here is abuse due to bad coding. The real discussion should not be who it needs to move to or what other service can be abused next it should be how do we write better code to lesson the burden on whatever service we use. Secondlife has a LARGE userbase therefore any usage wi

Re: [opensource-dev] ATI vs NV vs OSX

2011-05-11 Thread Marc Adored
fessional 3D rendering apps don't seem to have any trouble with > shadows, depth of field, or global illumination on any reasonably powerful > card), the issue is in the SL application code. > On May 11, 2011, at 12:20 AM, Marc Adored wrote: > > So I am building a machine we shal

Re: [opensource-dev] ATI vs NV vs OSX

2011-05-11 Thread Marc Adored
), this mean by *theory* all OpenGL glsl can work on Mac > too (imho, never checked deeply inside glsl of the viewer) > > -- > Sent by iPhone > > Il giorno 11/mag/2011, alle ore 09:20, Marc Adored > ha scritto: > >> So I am building a machine we shall call it a haxint

[opensource-dev] ATI vs NV vs OSX

2011-05-11 Thread Marc Adored
So I am building a machine we shall call it a haxintosh... It will be running OSX I was just wondering if ATI or Nvidia was better supported for SecondLife on OSX? I know OSX chose ATI for there machines but does SL support it or would I be better off to get Nvidia anyways? I really want everything

Re: [opensource-dev] Autobuild install can't install 3p-kdu-private

2011-05-03 Thread Marc Adored
kdu cannot be downloaded or distributed legally unless you have a licence. I ran into the problem the other day you have to disable kdu so it uses openjpeg. Use -- -DUSE_KDU:BOOL=FALSE I am not sure how to use that in windows but you may know how. On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, xinyi chen wro

Re: [opensource-dev] Copying GStreamer from a 32bit system to a 64bit one (was: streaming media on 64bit?)

2011-02-05 Thread Marc Adored
10:29 AM, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > On 02/05/2011 04:15 PM, Marc Adored wrote: >> (:5205): GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin >> '/usr/lib32/gstreamer-0.10/libgstspc.so': libopenspc.so.0: cannot open >> shared object file: No such file or directory >> >&

Re: [opensource-dev] streaming media on 64bit?

2011-02-05 Thread Marc Adored
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Altair Sythos wrote: > On Sat, 5 Feb 2011 10:15:35 -0500 > Marc Adored wrote: > >> I have copied the gstreamer-0.10 from my wifes 32bit ubuntu to > > very bad idea Not really I didn't overwrite my libs in /usr/lib i put them in /usr/l

Re: [opensource-dev] streaming media on 64bit?

2011-02-05 Thread Marc Adored
This is the error I get: pid:5205: (media plugin) grab_gst_syms:93: Found DSO: libgstreamer-0.10.so.0 pid:5205: (media plugin) grab_gst_syms:107: Found DSO: libgstvideo-0.10.so.0 (:5205): GStreamer-WARNING **: Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib32/gstreamer-0.10/libgstspc.so': libopenspc.so.0: cann

Re: [opensource-dev] streaming media on 64bit?

2011-02-05 Thread Marc Adored
interested in? On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 5:47 AM, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > Hi Marc > > On 02/05/2011 05:03 AM, Marc Adored wrote: > > I am on 64bit ubuntu and noticed that media on a prim works now even > though I am using a 32bit viewer. I am assuming this is because it is > a SLPlugi

[opensource-dev] streaming media on 64bit?

2011-02-04 Thread Marc Adored
I am on 64bit ubuntu and noticed that media on a prim works now even though I am using a 32bit viewer. I am assuming this is because it is a SLPlugin and not part of the viewer? I was wondering if the streaming audio/video that has not worked for 32bit viewers on 64bit systems could be reworked to

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux 64bit and gstreamer

2010-12-12 Thread Marc Adored
Yes 32bit SLVoice can run with 64bit viewer because the viewer is not using it as a lib its a network connection between each other so none of that matters. On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Mike Chase wrote: > On 12/12/2010 04:09 PM, Argent Stonecutter wrote: >> You know what would really help pe

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux 64bit and gstreamer

2010-12-11 Thread Marc Adored
mary of 64bit support for Linux > for that series of viewers? I know in the past I was able to run a > 32bit version but with no streaming media. > > See the forum thread Linux 64 bits and medias. > > On 12/10/2010 10:29 PM, Marc Adored wrote: > > I've been hopin

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux 64bit and gstreamer

2010-12-10 Thread Marc Adored
Pulseaudio is the default in all ubuntu versions. 64bit gstreamer will not work with 32bit Secondlife Viewer even with pulseaudio because secondlife accesses the gstreamer lib not pulseaudio. Gstreamer is the one to access the pulseaudio subsystem. The only way to get it to work is to build a 64bit

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-151 : KDU v6.4.1 upgrade update

2010-11-23 Thread Marc Adored
Works for me :D Same result very speedy decoding imo! Ubuntu 64bit On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 10:03 PM, Philippe (Merov) Bossut > wrote: >> >> Zha, I noticed that myself when building locally. I've been scratching my >> head

Re: [opensource-dev] STORM-151 : KDU v6.4.1 upgrade update

2010-11-22 Thread Marc Adored
I can confirm that it loads textures quite a bit faster then previous versions also. My system is Ubuntu 64bit and I noticed a pretty good increase in texture load speed. TP'd to a few different places and same result. On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Trilo Byte wrote: > Installation went withou

Re: [opensource-dev] What is the license status of UI sounds ?

2010-11-15 Thread Marc Adored
I've always wondered why the viewer had to download sounds that are part of the UI. It makes more sense to have the UI sounds as part of the skin. Would also make skins even more unique :) On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 4:27 AM, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Sonntag, 14. November 2010, 15:14:25 schrieb Oz

Re: [opensource-dev] Files deleted by uninstaller don't appear in Recycle Bin

2010-10-28 Thread Marc Adored
Wow such a big discussion. I think the best plan would be to have both ways as an option like lots of installers do. Check this box to delete all files program created after it was installed simple enough and solves really any problem that arrises from left over cache and stuff if one is trying to

Re: [opensource-dev] [Linux] Viewer crash with no meaningful error message when cache dir. is missing

2010-10-23 Thread Marc Adored
Maybe its crashing because it cant "create" the missing cache folder because that mount point doesn't even exist not really because it cant find it. It automatically creates it if it doesnt exist normally. Either way a error message stating what happened would be very helpful :P On Sat, Oct 23, 20

Re: [opensource-dev] (CTS-315) march choice for 64bit builds

2010-10-22 Thread Marc Adored
I assume that they probably used some SSE2 optimizations for the mesh code On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Carlo Wood wrote: > Why is SSE2 required now? Sorry if I missed this. > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 03:08:26AM +0200, Boroondas Gupte wrote: >> Because SSE2 is now required anyway, -march=pen

Re: [opensource-dev] Fermi Viewer

2010-10-18 Thread Marc Adored
Yes that could be awesome like The Fermi Builders Mod for Phoenix or better yet Kirstens :D On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 1:54 AM, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > I think Carlo mean something else... In place to create another viewer > join an existing team and contribute code for building and SIM > manageme

Re: [opensource-dev] O.O Display name code DROP!

2010-10-17 Thread Marc Adored
Lance check the jira if the file ext is changes to xml it will automatically open in IE,Firefox,Chrome,Whatever Browser they have as default and it will display styled to look just like the plain text old versions only underneath it will contain much more information. Those stylesheets can also be

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer 2 beta crash osx

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
Well I think I just narrowed it down. I turned off streaming media and I am able to login now. I guess viewer 2 auto loads the media even if it isn't set to auto play? I should have thought of it earlier and I don't know why I didn't. I can't play streaming media in the v1.x viewers either but they

[opensource-dev] Viewer 2 beta crash osx

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
Ok so I have been having the crashing problem on login every since viewer 2. I can still login fine with the viewer 1.x viewers but none of the viewer 2 viewers login fully they just crash. I have tried clearing cache and deleting everything blah blah even reinstalled osx and same thing. Here is a

[opensource-dev] Fwd: O.O Display name code DROP!

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
the computer.  This > isn't a binary format we are discussing; it's a formatted text file. > Formatted in a way that makes it easier for a computer to read while > still being useful to the humans involved. > > On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Jamey Fletcher wrote: >

Re: [opensource-dev] O.O Display name code DROP!

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
> > Let's see...  Future Proof. > > Program to read and process a text file - anywhere from a few hundred > bytes, to a small OS-wannabe like emacs.  Program to process LLSD and > display it - several hundred K minimum, oh, and *REQUIRED* network > connection live so the referenced DTD can be retr

Re: [opensource-dev] Replying to OpenSource-Dev using Gmail.

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
The problem is the list sends the email to you from the sender not from the list so gmail replies to the person because reply replies to the sender. My other lists don't have this issue so I'm pretty sure its a setting set differently in mailman that linden might should change to make replying act

Re: [opensource-dev] Replying to OpenSource-Dev using Gmail.

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
Use reply to all it replies to the person ad cc's to the mailing list. Somehow the person in the TO field doesnt get a duplicate either like you think they would so it works perfect. On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:21 PM, SuezanneC Baskerville wrote: > I switched my listmanager settings from Digest to

Re: [opensource-dev] O.O Display name code DROP!

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
Oh well so much for progress :( Is linden labs going to provide a tool to convert current llsd logs back to plaintext? On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 7:23 PM, Leyla Linden wrote: > Hi All, > The chat log format change wasinitially done so we could easily add > more information in the chat logs.  Now tha

Re: [opensource-dev] O.O Display name code DROP!

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
t might be planned. I know for someone who doesn't know about the format or anything outside of plaintext it might be garbage right now but the potential is huge On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Dave Booth wrote: >  On 10/15/2010 17:38

Re: [opensource-dev] O.O Display name code DROP!

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
that's needed is a linked XSL stylesheet to make it just as easy >> >> to read as the text files were.  Just using a web browser instead of a >> >> text editor.  Josh solved the XSL in this response: >> >> >> >> https://lists.secondlife.com/pi

Re: [opensource-dev] O.O Display name code DROP!

2010-10-15 Thread Marc Adored
All this panic did anyone stop to think that maybe this is part of a bigger plan? The first thing that cam to mind for me was maybe it makes it easier for programs to format them and probably better for searching and stuff (withen a program). Also maybe there are plans for a built in log viewer com

Re: [opensource-dev] Lindens way ahead of us

2010-09-26 Thread Marc Adored
Well as I said before off is off and on is on your choice. Much more choice then breast physics give. I find it creepy that some perv is looking at my wife watching her boobs bounce and she has no control over it other then logging off which is unacceptable btw. Not that it really bothers me but I'

Re: [opensource-dev] Lindens way ahead of us

2010-09-26 Thread Marc Adored
Actually there is no way to turn it on in other peoples viewers if its in their viewer. If someone told you that they mislead you. The on/off is whatever you set it too, no body else can change that short of hacking your computer. There is no backend or hidden code or anything like that. I have yet

Re: [opensource-dev] Lindens way ahead of us

2010-09-26 Thread Marc Adored
RLV is usually optional when its added to other viewers and can often times be very useful to hud makers. I have a hud now I made for myself that force tp's to bookmarked places I have set in the hud. There are other uses for it besides all the dirty possessive stuff it was originally intended to b

[opensource-dev] Option to send notices to email even when online

2010-09-17 Thread Marc Adored
I wasn't sure if this is the right place to post this but on the https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo page it says sldev has been moved here so i suppose this is the only place to post this. I posted a jira for this option because I couldn't find an existing jira and just wanted t

Re: [opensource-dev] User Story: Improved Cache

2010-09-17 Thread Marc Adored
I think that maybe "places" should have scores of how often they are visted to determine how long the cache of that place is stored. So since every login you start at home it would have a high score therefore the cache would be stored for a longer period of time. Same goes for places you visit ofte

Re: [opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.

2010-09-08 Thread Marc Adored
> Okay, let's just outline this properly. > > The lab DO NOT have any right to determine what software they will allow > to connect to their SERVICE.  The only thing they DO have a right to do > is to determine which TCP connections they want to accept and which UDP > packets they want to accept.

Re: [opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.

2010-09-08 Thread Marc Adored
all the same features plus some really neat new ones. On-topic part is phoenix is shaping up to be a pretty decently organized opensource viewer should we focus on that now? :D On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Altair Sythos wrote: > On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:59:41 -0400 > Marc Adored

Re: [opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.

2010-09-08 Thread Marc Adored
08/09/2010 22:46, Marc Adored wrote: >> >> On another not they have every right to police who and what is >> connecting to their service > > No, given that the data that the viewer is sending is identical, they have > no right to do that whatsoever.  The software I choose

Re: [opensource-dev] Blocking viewers.

2010-09-08 Thread Marc Adored
Just switch to Phoenix its the projects new structure and project name. On another not they have every right to police who and what is connecting to their service. They also have every right to ban you for whatever reason they want without giving any reason at all. They are not policing your compu

Re: [opensource-dev] This is how Linden Lab treats it's customers...

2010-08-29 Thread Marc Adored
You guys do realize that linden gives you plenty of warnings and time AFTER payment is due to "update" your payment information if you do so happen to forget or a cc expires. it's not like its due on 13th and bam its off on 13th. You get emails telling you payment failed(a few of them actually) and

Re: [opensource-dev] This is how Linden Lab treats it's customers...

2010-08-28 Thread Marc Adored
Can you guys please take the topic elsewhere its hard to catch whats relevant with everyone discussing this off topic thread. I'm sure there is a sl-dr...@lists.secondlife.com or similar available for ranting about customer service and business practices but if I'm not mistaken this list is for ope

Re: [opensource-dev] Malicious payloads in third-party viewers: is the policy worth anything?

2010-08-21 Thread Marc Adored
This was an attempt to do 1 of 2 things or both. There is no denying it because every other "excuse" I've seen is pure bull and doesn't even make sense. The person responsible for doing this was either arrogant enough to think that the userbase was large enough and there was enough people logging i

Re: [opensource-dev] Pie menu ideas (was: Re: Open Viewer Development Announcement)

2010-08-19 Thread Marc Adored
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Opensource Obscure wrote: --snip-- > > As always, providing users with the ability to choose a different > system (that is, pie menu) may be ideal - but again, this shouldn't > have an high priority. I agree with that. Maybe a simple debug setting or a checkbox or

Re: [opensource-dev] V2.X & V1.X support on the same machine

2010-08-05 Thread Marc Adored
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Bunny Halberd wrote: > On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Dzonatas Sol wrote: > >> As a kid, I loved playing go fish, and then gin, and then gin rummy, and >> rummy, and then rummykub. =) > > Am I accidently filtering part of this list? This is not the first > messag

Re: [opensource-dev] compiling viewer-external with ubuntu lucid 64bit

2010-07-07 Thread Marc Adored
Just tried that and got same error. Its not a missing .h file or anything just seems like no Makefile for libsndfile.so.1 is being generated during the configure maybe On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Aleric Inglewood wrote: > install libsndfile1-dev > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:54

[opensource-dev] compiling viewer-external with ubuntu lucid 64bit

2010-07-04 Thread Marc Adored
I was wondering if anybody had any success compiling snowglobe on ubuntu lucid 64bit and if they have what steps they took to prepare their system for it. I have installed everything under the sun and my /usr/include folder is a mess and I still can't get it to compile in 64bit or 32bit. ./develop