Re: [osol-discuss] Time to start consolidating? (Was: genunix wiki online)

2006-02-13 Thread Venky
Have started migrating the content from wikicities to the genunix wiki. Anybody who's interested in helping out, please pitch right in. You just need to edit the page in the wikicities wiki, copy the content and paste it into a page in the genunix wiki! As low tech as it gets! :) Venky. On Yes

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Scott Spyrison
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 15:26 -0800, UNIX admin wrote: > That works for me too. I don't admin systems any other way than through CLI. > But that has nothing to do with either CDE or JDS. > > > Sure, the GUI is not good for admin, again who cares? > > Apparently a lot of people (me excluded). Peop

[osol-discuss] Re: genunix wiki online

2006-02-13 Thread Eric Boutilier
Al Hopper wrote: Thanks to the hard work of our own Ben Rockwood, the wiki for OpenSolaris related activity is available at: www.genunix.org/wiki/ Thanks Ben and Al! All -- Just a friendly reminder. The good news, there's a lot of good content showing up. It'd be even better though if a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, UNIX admin wrote: > Perhaps you could clue me in as to why did Sun pick GNOME over KDE exactly? This is pure speculation on my part but I think they choose GNOME over KDE because of licensing with KDE Qt libs at that time. Bill rushmores.net _

[osol-discuss] Community/Project Update: 2/13/06

2006-02-13 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Here's an update on community and project proposals. Jim --- Jim Grisanzio, Community Manager, OpenSolaris http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris/ *COMMUNITY PROPOSALS* Immigrants Community * Proposed 10/27/05 by Adam Leventhal * Community consensus: yes * CAB vote: approved * Opening date: TBD CIFS C

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Network config

2006-02-13 Thread Michael . Ditto
UNIX admin wrote On 02/13/06 15:37,: >>Just putting this into your /etc/hostname.rh0 file >>will do the job: >> >> my-hostname/24 > >When was this put in? >Where exactly on docs.sun.com is this documented? There is a short snip about >CIDR in Solaris 10 administration, but nothing on the CIDR en

[osol-discuss] OpenSolaris Community Newsletter ---- January 2006

2006-02-13 Thread Linda Bernal
Here is an update on OpenSolaris for the month of January: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/content/newsletter/januray06-newsletter/ We are accepting contributions for the February newsletter, please send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank You, Linda

[osol-discuss] Re: Regarding installing a product in cluster environment

2006-02-13 Thread Richard Elling
> I have a sun cluster 3.1 environment on 2 sun servers(Nodes). > Now i want to install a product on this cluster. > Now my question is whether i have to install this > product on each node or i have to install in shared > directory of cluster ? It depends. Really. For many applications, we te

[osol-discuss] Re: Zones system + library calls

2006-02-13 Thread David Comay
Here are a couple of resources which go into this http://blogs.sun.com/roller/resources/comay/zones-opensolaris.pdf (slides 30 through 32) http://developers.sun.com/solaris/articles/application_in_zone.html This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ o

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: 4113420 (request for ksh93 integration)

2006-02-13 Thread Roland Mainz
Henk Langeveld wrote: [For the log: We now have an own mailinglist for the ksh93-integration project called [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] > Here's a little word from one who actually contributed a lot to > bugid 4113420 (I don't remember if I was the original author, > sun's bug db was something like a wik

[osol-discuss] Re: 4113420 (request for ksh93 integration)

2006-02-13 Thread Henk Langeveld
Here's a little word from one who actually contributed a lot to bugid 4113420 (I don't remember if I was the original author, sun's bug db was something like a wiki, but without the diffs) I heartily support the inclusion of ksh93 into (Open)Solaris(-10,9,8) as I've tried to get it included since

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Network config

2006-02-13 Thread UNIX admin
> Two fairly minor nits with this otherwise complete > advice: > > - "netmask + broadcast + up" is already assumed as > as part of the > interface configuration. It's better to leave it > e it out. Accepted. > - /etc/netmasks is an ancient hack, and doesn't > 't work as well as one > might like

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread UNIX admin
> > Neither is suitable for administration. > > And you point? (other than starting a flame war) I was left with the impression the OP wanted to know which system is easier to use via two distinct GUIs. That would include administration. So you could say that my point is that serious GUI admini

Re: [osol-discuss] CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Brian Cameron
Rich: Although you can't make the Launch menu appear in the root menu, you can make the panel bigger if it is too small. Just right click on the panel and go to properties. You can also move the panel to the top, right or left of the screen. You can also create launchers on the background (or

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Monday 13 February 2006 12:46 am, UNIX admin wrote: > CDE is faster. Much, much faster. > > JDS has more functionality. > > Neither is suitable for administration. And you point? (other than starting a flame war) Who cares really, I use KDE. I don't know what's wrong with JDS as far as suitab

Re: [osol-discuss] CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Ian Collins
Peter Tribble wrote: This is especially an issue when you have hundreds of otherwise identical terminal windows. I'm not aware of any desktop environment which handles this gracefully. Use fewer windows and more tabs, which you can name. Ian ___

Re: [osol-discuss] genunix wiki online

2006-02-13 Thread Stephen Hahn
* Calum Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-13 04:26]: > > On 12 Feb 2006, at 05:20, Glynn Foster wrote: > > >Hey, > > > >On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 16:35 -0600, Al Hopper wrote: > >>Thanks to the hard work of our own Ben Rockwood, the wiki for > >>OpenSolaris > >>related activity is available at: w

Re: [osol-discuss] CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Peter Tribble
On Mon, 2006-02-13 at 20:16, Ian Collins wrote: > > > I think large screens have been overlooked by desktop developers. They > really do change the way one works. I have found that I hardly use > virtual desktops any more, I launch everything I use once and leave it > running. > > I also use

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal: ksh93 integration project

2006-02-13 Thread Roland Mainz
"April D. Chin" wrote: > I have started work on planning a ksh93 migration. > > Please add me to the ksh93 migration project mailing list. Done - see http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/ksh93-integration-discuss/2006-February/02.html Bye, Roland -- __ . . __ (o.\ \/ /.o) [EMAIL

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Bill Rushmore
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Derek E. Lewis wrote: > We may also define "functional" as how many apps each desktop environment > has. CDE or JDS both have file managers -- dtfile and Nautilus, > respectively; however, as everyone has said, CDE, itself, (meaning the > apps it has, etc.) is much faster than

[osol-discuss] Re: Community Forum Proposal: Packaging, Patching,

2006-02-13 Thread Rob
> * Dave Miner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-02-01 13:15]: > > Just to elaborate a little on the proposal, this community would be the > > home for the SVR4 packaging tools code when it's released in the near > > future, as well as other packaging and installation projects. > > Is this then the "pac

[osol-discuss] ksh93 integration project mailinglist set up...

2006-02-13 Thread Roland Mainz
Hi! The mailing list `ksh93-integration-discuss' has just been created (thanks to Eric Boutilier and the other people at opensoalris.org). * About the "ksh93 integration/migration" project: The project should investigate and execute the integration of ksh93 and related features, includin

[osol-discuss] Re: postfix in a Zone

2006-02-13 Thread Phil Plouffe
It works ok in a full zone, never tried in a sparse zone. Just the usual things (disable sendmail, create users, groups, etc...).. Phil. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Ian Collins
Rich Teer wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Ghee Teo wrote: Jaideep Das wrote: I want to know which one of these desktop environment is the fastest and have more functionality and ease of use, on a 86x system. short answer: Faster: CDE, More functionality: JDS, EASE of use (by mil

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal: ksh93 integration project

2006-02-13 Thread Roland Mainz
"I. Szczesniak" wrote: > > On 2/11/06, Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > We'll get you started, stay tuned, I'll contact you off-list. > > Is the list ready now? Yes, yes... it seems to be up&running... I am writing the annoucement right now... Bye, Roland -- __ . . __ (o

Re: [osol-discuss] CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Ghee Teo
Rich Teer wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Ghee Teo wrote: Jaideep Das wrote: I want to know which one of these desktop environment is the fastest and have more functionality and ease of use, on a 86x system. short answer: Faster: CDE, More functionality: JDS, EASE of use (by mil

Re: [osol-discuss] CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Rich Teer
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Ghee Teo wrote: > Jaideep Das wrote: > > > I want to know which one of these desktop environment is the fastest and > > have more functionality and ease of use, on a 86x system. > > > short answer: Faster: CDE, More functionality: JDS, EASE of use (by miles): > JDS. Things

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Nils Nieuwejaar
On Mon 02/13/06 at 08:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Nils, > We do intend to still keep delivering builds synchronised with > build-close dates. I just felt that we could increase the frequency of > deliveries from every 2 weeks to every week. Sounds good. Right now you have to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
Nils Nieuwejaar wrote: This change is going to make it very hard to deliver other projects. For each BrandZ release, I sync the BrandZ gate up to the same Nevada build as the current OpenSolaris release. This lets us deliver just the usr/src tree (*), which can be built against the officially r

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Stephen Lau
Nils Nieuwejaar wrote: Hi Juergen, 20060208 was the first delivery where I've started delivering nightly builds, rather than deliveries synced with the close of a Nevada build. This change is going to make it very hard to deliver other projects. For each BrandZ release,

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Jürgen Keil
> 20060208 was the first delivery where I've started delivering nightly > builds, rather than deliveries synced with the close of a Nevada build. > So 20060208 was synched with onnv-gate as of of 2006-02-07. If you look > at the ONNV build schedule > (http://opensolaris.org/os/community/onnv/

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Nils Nieuwejaar
On Mon 02/13/06 at 07:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > J?rgen Keil wrote: > >Btw. what happened to the "A. Changes since MMDD" part of > >the releasenotes file? In previous opensolaris source releases it > >contained a hint on the corresponding Solaris Nevada build, for > >the source drop. Li

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Stephen Lau
Cyril Plisko wrote: Hi Juergen, 20060208 was the first delivery where I've started delivering nightly builds, rather than deliveries synced with the close of a Nevada build. So 20060208 was synched with onnv-gate as of 2006-02-07. If you look at the ONNV build schedule (http://opensolar

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Cyril Plisko
Stephen Lau wrote: Jürgen Keil wrote: Btw. what happened to the "A. Changes since MMDD" part of the releasenotes file? In previous opensolaris source releases it contained a hint on the corresponding Solaris Nevada build, for the source drop. Like this: - merged with Solaris Nevada buil

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Proposal: ksh93 integration project

2006-02-13 Thread I. Szczesniak
On 2/11/06, Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We'll get you started, stay tuned, I'll contact you off-list. Is the list ready now? Irek ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Stephen Lau
Jürgen Keil wrote: Btw. what happened to the "A. Changes since MMDD" part of the releasenotes file? In previous opensolaris source releases it contained a hint on the corresponding Solaris Nevada build, for the source drop. Like this: - merged with Solaris Nevada build XX How do we fin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Mount fat32 partition

2006-02-13 Thread James Carlson
Julian Ortiz writes: > This is the error msg i-m getting. > > bash-3.00# mount -F pcfs -o rw,hidden /dev/rdsk/c1d0p2 /export/home/fat32/ > mount: Block device required Mount requires the block device (/dev/dsk), not the raw device (/dev/rdsk). -- James Carlson, KISS Network<

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Mount fat32 partition

2006-02-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
Julian Ortiz wrote: This is the error msg i-m getting. bash-3.00# mount -F pcfs -o rw,hidden /dev/rdsk/c1d0p2 /export/home/fat32/ Change that to /dev/dsk/c1d0p2 -- Darren J Moffat ___ opensolaris-disc

[osol-discuss] Time to start consolidating? (Was: genunix wiki online)

2006-02-13 Thread Eric Boutilier
Venky wrote: Okay, now we have two OpenSolaris wikis! http://opensolaris.wikicities.com Time to start consolidating? +1 (In fact I can't think of a single reason not to.) Eric Venky. On Friday, Al wrote: Thanks to the hard work of our own Ben Rockwood, the wiki for OpenSolaris rel

[osol-discuss] Re: Mount fat32 partition

2006-02-13 Thread Julian Ortiz
Thanks a lot for your help.. I got it to work :) , i was trying to mount /dev/rdsk, which kept asking me for a block device, so i noticed that the in first post the folder to be used was /dev/dsk instead of /dev/rdsk. command used : mount -F pcfs -o rw,hidden /dev/dsk/c1d0p2:d /export/home/fa

[osol-discuss] postfix in a Zone

2006-02-13 Thread Mark Greenbank
Hi, Has anyone had any issues implementing the Postfix email software in a Zone? Thanks, Mark ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Mount fat32 partition

2006-02-13 Thread Julian Ortiz
This is the error msg i-m getting. bash-3.00# mount -F pcfs -o rw,hidden /dev/rdsk/c1d0p2 /export/home/fat32/ mount: Block device required bash-3.00# thanks and I appreciate your help, Julian Ortiz This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolar

[osol-discuss] Zones system + library calls

2006-02-13 Thread Mark Greenbank
Hi, Is there any reference the highlights which system calls and library functions cannot be executed by a binary program in a container? Thanks, Mark ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Network config

2006-02-13 Thread Jaideep Das
Yes thats exactly what I ment by 'up', thanks for the help. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Darren J Moffat
Derek E. Lewis wrote: To say JDS is more 'functional' than CDE is a somewhat vague, general statement. If we define 'functional' as how "easy" it is to configure JDS or CDE, then CDE certainly has some noteworthy characteristics, as you can do *lot* with just vi and a [.]dt directory. The sam

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Derek E. Lewis
To say JDS is more 'functional' than CDE is a somewhat vague, general statement. If we define 'functional' as how "easy" it is to configure JDS or CDE, then CDE certainly has some noteworthy characteristics, as you can do *lot* with just vi and a [.]dt directory. The same cannot be said for J

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Network config

2006-02-13 Thread James Carlson
UNIX admin writes: > /etc/netmasks: > 192.168.x.x 255.255.255.0 > > /etc/hostname.rh0: > my-hostname netmask + broadcast + up Two fairly minor nits with this otherwise complete advice: - "netmask + broadcast + up" is already assumed as part of the interface configuration. It's better to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Network config

2006-02-13 Thread James Carlson
Jaideep Das writes: > > /etc/hostname.rh0: > > my-hostname netmask + broadcast + up > > How will I find out the broadcast and what i 'up'. The broadcast address is normally computed automatically from the interface address and the netmask. I don't know what you mean by "what [you] 'up'." The na

[osol-discuss] OSCON deadline :: 13th Feb for submissions

2006-02-13 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, Just thought I'd send around a reminder that the call for papers for OSCON deadline is 13th Feb [ie. today, midnight PST] for anyone interested in giving an OpenSolaris related talk [1] http://conferences.oreillynet.com/os2006/ Glynn [1] Hopefully we may have some interesting subm

[osol-discuss] Re: Network config

2006-02-13 Thread Jaideep Das
> /etc/hostname.rh0: > my-hostname netmask + broadcast + up How will I find out the broadcast and what i 'up'. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] genunix wiki online

2006-02-13 Thread Calum Benson
On 12 Feb 2006, at 05:20, Glynn Foster wrote: Hey, On Fri, 2006-02-10 at 16:35 -0600, Al Hopper wrote: Thanks to the hard work of our own Ben Rockwood, the wiki for OpenSolaris related activity is available at: www.genunix.org/wiki/ One of the items slated for "development" on the wiki is

[osol-discuss] Re: Building 20060208

2006-02-13 Thread Jürgen Keil
> I'm feeling challenged this morning... Could someone > please clarify where we stand with regards 20060208? > Specifically as the download section now contains: > > OpenSolaris README (Release Notes) >README.opensolaris 11.56 KB > Full HTML Changelog (with files updated) > on-

Re: [osol-discuss] CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread Ghee Teo
Jaideep Das wrote: I want to know which one of these desktop environment is the fastest and have more functionality and ease of use, on a 86x system. short answer: Faster: CDE, More functionality: JDS, EASE of use (by miles): JDS. I think CDE will be faster because of it simpler toolkits la

[osol-discuss] Re: Network config

2006-02-13 Thread UNIX admin
/etc/hosts: 127.0.0.1 localhost loghost 192.168.x.x my-hostname my-hostname.mantraonline.com /etc/netmasks: 192.168.x.x 255.255.255.0 /etc/hostname.rh0: my-hostname netmask + broadcast + up /etc/defaultrouter: 192.168.1.1 cp -p /etc/nsswitch.conf /etc/nsswitch.conf.orig cp /etc/nsswitch

[osol-discuss] Re: CDE Vs JDS

2006-02-13 Thread UNIX admin
CDE is faster. Much, much faster. JDS has more functionality. Neither is suitable for administration. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org