Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-10 Thread openbabel
On 10/10/2014 14:22, ken mays via openindiana-discuss wrote: I understand that there is a new SSL Beta version available and some patches for the latest Bash version.Perhaps someone could test these and push them downstream. Robert On 10/10/2014 14:22, ken mays via openindiana-discuss wrot

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-10 Thread ken mays via openindiana-discuss
You missed Tribblix and DilOS and a few others. Same as in cars, why are there so many of them that do similar things ??? Choices. Tribblix, XStreamOS-Desktop, and OI are the current leading 'desktop-oriented' distros. Those distros differ in package management and default desktops (amongest oth

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread The Outsider
True! That's why i pay for hard&software support on solaris 11.2. (Prices are reasonable when you have Sun hardware) But 11.2 != openindiana. On 10 oktober 2014 02:08:00 Dave Pooser wrote: On 10/9/14 5:13 PM, "The Outsider" wrote: >Hmm i am sorry. I seem to have missed that. >Last tim

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread Dave Pooser
On 10/9/14 5:13 PM, "The Outsider" wrote: >Hmm i am sorry. I seem to have missed that. >Last time i installed and tested it i needed to get a registrationkey and >wasn't allowed to use nexenta for business without paying a quite high >amount of euros. > >But that was 3 years ago. Open source !=

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread The Outsider
Hmm i am sorry. I seem to have missed that. Last time i installed and tested it i needed to get a registrationkey and wasn't allowed to use nexenta for business without paying a quite high amount of euros. But that was 3 years ago. On 9 oktober 2014 23:18:03 Bayard Bell wrote: On 9 Octobe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread Alexander Pyhalov
Bayard Bell писал 10.10.2014 01:10: On 9 October 2014 20:41, openindi...@out-side.nl wrote: From my limited tunnelview: Nexenta: closed source, no real root, no zones. IF you want storage with support this is the best option. Please define closed source while accounting for this fundame

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread Bayard Bell
On 9 October 2014 20:41, openindi...@out-side.nl wrote: > From my limited tunnelview: > > Nexenta: closed source, no real root, no zones. IF you want storage with > support this is the best option. > Please define closed source while accounting for this fundamental fact: https://github.com/nexe

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread openindi...@out-side.nl
ion list for OpenIndiana Onderwerp: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue) At the risk of sounding like the corporate hack I doubtless am... what's the OI "elevator pitch" -- the 10-second explanation of why OI exists, and why I should use it vs another Illumos var

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI (was Bash Bug issue)

2014-10-09 Thread Dave Pooser
At the risk of sounding like the corporate hack I doubtless am... what's the OI "elevator pitch" -- the 10-second explanation of why OI exists, and why I should use it vs another Illumos variant? NexentaStor - "ZFS storage appliances" OmniOS - "Enterprise server, open and free, with commercial sup

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-26 Thread David Brodbeck
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:16 AM, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com < dormitionsk...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I'm probably trolling here, and this is definitely off-topic, but gee -- > we have a communist president, who's filled his White House staff with > communists... They've been subtly teaching sociali

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-24 Thread låzaro
I'm glad you for that, but Mr. Michael Stapleton already send me a disc and a DVD with the repos. A public thanks for him ;) Thread name: "Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI" Mail number: 1 Date: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 In reply to: Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk > > I can mail y

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-19 Thread Roy Sigurd Karlsbakk
; a "repo" if it > is posible. Perfect would be "on DVD full solution". That would make > of OI a option > for not internet access peoples. > > OI is daying, we only can push it. Don't leve the ship get sanked. > ORACLE will > surprise us very soon...

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
> Still, I would like to know how Open Indiana blocks these countries from > downloading it. Does anybody know? Don't know for sure, but I think some sites do that by having a lookup table for ranges of IP addresses associated with various countries - the server obviously knows the client's

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Colin Ellis
make of OI > a option > for not internet access peoples. > > OI is daying, we only can push it. Don't leve the ship get sanked. ORACLE > will > surprise us very soon... > > > Thread name: "Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI" > Mail number: 5 > Date

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Jason Matthews
> I wonder if CheapBytes is still around Cheaper bandwidth probably delivered cheap bytes cheaper than CheapBytes. j. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-dis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Well, I don't agree with your saying socialism is the right's new bogeyman, but you are right in that this is not the proper venue for this. Sorry. I got a little frustrated. I tried to help somebody out, but can't do it... Still, I would like to know how Open Indiana blocks these countries

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
I wonder if CheapBytes is still around - I remember back around 1999-2001 a website called CheapBytes.com offered various free and open source Linux distributions for a minimal cost for a CD and shipping. Maybe $5-10 for a multiple CD set of discs for a Linux distribution at that time. If they're

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Aurélien Larcher
ying, we only can push it. Don't leve the ship get sanked. ORACLE > will > surprise us very soon... > > > Thread name: "Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI" > Mail number: 5 > Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 > In reply to: Marcel Telka > > > > On Wed, D

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread Alex Smith (K4RNT)
Sorry, I call TROLL. "Socialism" is the right's new bogeyman, they always have had one - the Red Scare, McCarthy-ism, inter-racial marriage, heck, even woman's suffrage! Taxation without representation is challenging the status quo! This is not the venue for discussions like this. Let's *please* d

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Oh, and those are my thoughts -- not necessarily those of the leaders of our monastery. I'm just a little guy here. On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:16 PM, dormitionsk...@hotmail.com wrote: > I'm probably trolling here, and this is definitely off-topic, but gee -- we > have a communist president, wh

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
I'm probably trolling here, and this is definitely off-topic, but gee -- we have a communist president, who's filled his White House staff with communists... They've been subtly teaching socialism (which is just a stepping stone to communism) in our schools for more than fifty years... What's t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Oh! I thought all those export restrictions were lifted a few years back. But, in looking on the net, I think I'm wrong. You can't export Fedora! Apparently, we can't export any products containing strong (128-bit or greater) encryption. That would exclude OpenIndiana, too. Sorry, Lazaro.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
Sorry. Lazaro, not Lizaro... Forgive me, please. It's morning, and I haven't had breakfast yet! fp ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread dormitionsk...@hotmail.com
n DVD full solution". That would make of OI a > option > for not internet access peoples. > > OI is daying, we only can push it. Don't leve the ship get sanked. ORACLE will > surprise us very soon... > > > Thread name: "Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI&

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-17 Thread låzaro
sh it. Don't leve the ship get sanked. ORACLE will surprise us very soon... Thread name: "Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI" Mail number: 5 Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 In reply to: Marcel Telka > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:34:56AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > > Ver

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:34:56AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > Very well said. Agreed 100%. > I wish I could contribute to these tasks, but I am a Windows > developer, and humble OI user. You can: File bug reports, proof read man pages, test things, write wiki pages, blogs, articles, ... You c

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Dmitry Kozhinov
Very well said. Agreed 100%. I wish I could contribute to these tasks, but I am a Windows developer, and humble OI user. Obviously, we all need to sit down and start to lead, sponsor, develop, and make the site working. ___ OpenIndiana-discuss maili

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Marcel Telka
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 04:14:51AM +0600, Dmitry Kozhinov wrote: > Please don't get me wrong, I am using OI in production environment, > and very interested in its further successful development. But isn't > the last conversation about OI future looked like this (sorry for > exaggeration): > > Q:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread Dmitry Kozhinov
Please don't get me wrong, I am using OI in production environment, and very interested in its further successful development. But isn't the last conversation about OI future looked like this (sorry for exaggeration): Q: Who is leading OI development? A: We don't need a leader. Q: Who is spons

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-11 Thread alka
Am 10.12.2012 um 16:57 schrieb Brian Hechinger: > OmniOS. > > -brian hi all although OI keeps my major platform, I have cancelled NexentaCore and added OmniOS as a platform for the napp-it Web-UI. I have fixed the perl problem and finished a first developer preview of the napp-it Web-GUI 0.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Hello all! peter jones writes: > Agreed the PR side is quiet but the community is engaged.Perhaps you > might be able to evangelise across all social media and ISV's ? Next February, there is the Spring Technical Conference ("Frühjahrs- fachgespräch") of the German Unix Users Group (GUUG) in Fra

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Brian Hechinger
OmniOS. -brian On 12/10/2012 10:51 AM, st...@linuxsuite.org wrote: I want an open source, community based ZFS storage backend. Is OI the correct choice?? Seems to work OK. I don't want a gui Is there an alternative? No, ZFS on FreeBSD/Linux doesn't cut it. -steve i wou

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread steve
I want an open source, community based ZFS storage backend. Is OI the correct choice?? Seems to work OK. I don't want a gui Is there an alternative? No, ZFS on FreeBSD/Linux doesn't cut it. -steve > i would be happy, if OI can be a success story > > but > - who leads the devel

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Sat, 8 Dec 2012, alka wrote: i would be happy, if OI can be a success story but - who leads the development? - which major enterprise/ organisation stays behind? the current answer is: none You are talking about a figure-head type person like Mark Shuttleworth? There is no major enterp

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Jesus Cea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/12/12 12:10, Roel_D wrote: > Do we know how many downloads / bandwidth the OpenIndiana > hostingplatform needs per month? > > I consider to participate in the hosting of a Europian mirror. I serve OI via BitTorrent (unfortunately this service s

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread Roel_D
OpenIndiana Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI Agreed the PR side is quiet but the community is engaged.Perhaps you might be able to evangelise across all social media and ISV's ? As for graphics and desktops I am hoping there is movement on this too.I have just posted some graphics

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread peter jones
Agreed the PR side is quiet but the community is engaged.Perhaps you might be able to evangelise across all social media and ISV's ? As for graphics and desktops I am hoping there is movement on this too.I have just posted some graphics ideas at http://www.flickr.com/photos/47875334@N07/8255723980/

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-10 Thread alka
i would be happy, if OI can be a success story but - who leads the development? - which major enterprise/ organisation stays behind? the current answer is: none If you look at http://echelog.com/logs/browse/oi-dev/ there is no discuss If you check last developer meetings at wiki.openindiana.or

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-07 Thread Aurélien Larcher
Hi, your email just arrives when I am having some thoughts about the future of OI but my conclusions are quite different. I have to admit that I am in no way an accomplished sys admin or system developer but a researcher with extensive practice of night of programming accompanied with beer and pizz

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-07 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Fri, 7 Dec 2012, alka wrote: hi all Currently i use and recommend OI as the main ZFS/Illumos based platform- but its more than obvious that the future development is stalled. What causes you to believe that future development is stalled? I am a couple of minor updates behind (on u5 rathe

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Future of OI

2012-12-07 Thread alka
hi all Currently i use and recommend OI as the main ZFS/Illumos based platform- but its more than obvious that the future development is stalled. What now!! Shall I and others use Oracle Solaris 11 , OmniOS, SmartOS? Should we develop SmartOS to be a storage OS? I have already a workng version