Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> On 23. Apr 2021, at 01:57, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > > > What do those mean? I have seen them numerous times even though the system > booted. > > > > On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 05:46:30 PM CDT, Nelson H. F. Beebe > wrote: > > > ZFS: i/o error - all bloc

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Z840 "fun". At least Solaris 11.4 works :-)

2021-04-22 Thread Stephan Althaus
On 04/22/21 11:09 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: The BIOS on the Z840 will allow me to select which disk to boot, so I'm going to try installing that driver with Hipster 2020.10 and 2021.04-rc1 on other disks. Hello! I'm really sorry to hear all of your installation tr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread Joshua M. Clulow via openindiana-discuss
On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 19:10, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I do *not* understand why there is any justification for renaming physical > interfaces between boots, but I had a demonstration today when a USB port was > renamed c1t0d0p0 which had previously been c11t0d0p0. > >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread John D Groenveld
In message <20210413.13mmdxii004...@groenveld.us>, John D Groenveld writes: >> pfexec pkg install mate-install >> pfexec pkg uninstall mate-install > >This currently fails because thunderbird-lightning is now obsolete: mate_install obsolete require dependency is issue 13743 https://w

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , "Nelson H. F. Bee be" writes: >There was one nit: at the point that it asks for a domain name, it >cuts it off at 15 characters, which is way too small. See I reproduced this bug: https://www.illumos.org/issues/13742> John groenv...@acm.org _

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I do *not* understand why there is any justification for renaming physical interfaces between boots, but I had a demonstration today when a USB port was renamed c1t0d0p0 which had previously been c11t0d0p0. I think we have reached terminal complexity. No one understands the system any longer

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread lists
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, at 1:15 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I ran into this a long time ago trying to set up a ZFS image on a USB > drive for a laptop. Ultimately I gave up as it had to be plugged into > the "correct" USB port and that seemed to change unpredictably.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Jacob Ritorto
Got this scrambled graphics screen. Going to try text install. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 22, 2021, at 11:54 AM, Judah Richardson > wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:20 AM Richard L. Hamilton > wrote: > >> I don't reinstall from an image, but run pkg update almost daily, and have >>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Some internals questions

2021-04-22 Thread Richard Lowe
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 08:40 Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss < openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote: > Do kernel modules load in a consistent order? > No ___ openindiana-discuss mailing list openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org https://op

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
What do those mean? I have seen them numerous times even though the system booted. On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 05:46:30 PM CDT, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: ZFS: i/o error - all block copies unavailable ZFS: can't read MOS of pool rpool ___ o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , "Nelson H. F. Bee be" writes: >A clone of openindiana exists and has been updated and activated. >On the next boot the Boot Environment openindiana-2021:04:22 will be >mounted on '/'. Reboot when ready to switch to this updated BE. > >I typed > ># reboot > >and the sys

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Nelson H. F. Beebe
Following my report a few minutes ago of a failure to reboot after package updates, Volker A. Brandt kindly suggested a recovery attempt like this: # zfs list -tall # mkdir /tmp/mypool # zpool import -R /tmp/mypool rpool That showed that the installed files from the pkg system are the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Volker A. Brandt
Hi Nelson! Good to see you're not giving up. [...] > I powered off, rebooted from the ISO image, logged in as > root/openindiana, and ran > > # zpool import > # df -h /rpool > FilesystemSize UsedAvailable Capacity Mounted on > rpool 77.02G 33K70.01G1%

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'll give that route a try if the current text install from the Desktop fails. I updated the BIOS and that stopped Solaris 11.4 from booting :-( What a mess. So I figured worth a shot trying 2021.04-rc1 again. Reg On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 04:49:31 PM CDT, Tim Mooney via openindiana-

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Nelson H. F. Beebe
After my last message, I ran "pkg install" on the OpenIndiana VM created from the text-mode installer on CentOS 7.9.2009, to get gcc, build-essential, and a few other packages installed. That went as expected. I then ran # pkg update # pkg upgrade That updated 347 packages and 8074 file

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread John D Groenveld
In message <30db2d9-2732-992c-f23-10d8e386f...@ndsu.edu>, Tim Mooney via openin diana-discuss writes: >It's 'mate-install'. And all it does is force the installation of the >desktop components, so the recommended steps are http://docs.openindiana.org/handbook/getting-started/> > pfexec pkg

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
That must be something with the user interface for configuration, because the "domainname" command allows 256 characters (257 including a terminating null byte, maybe). Even if you go by something else that says 64, it's still a lot bigger than 15. > On Apr 22, 2021, at 17:47, Tim Mooney via op

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death, Reginald...: The text-install ISO doesn't have a windowing system on it. I don't know if there is anything analogous to the Solaris 11.4 "solaris-desktop " pkg. It's 'mate-install'. And all it does is force the installation of the des

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death, Nelson H. F: There was one nit: at the point that it asks for a domain name, it cuts it off at 15 characters, which is way too small. See https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1035.txt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostname https:/

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The text-install ISO doesn't have a windowing system on it. I don't know if there is anything analogous to the Solaris 11.4 "solaris-desktop " pkg. On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 04:21:01 PM CDT, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: Following my report earlier today of problems installing the la

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Nelson H. F. Beebe
Following my report earlier today of problems installing the latest OpenIndiana ISO GUI installer on CentOS 7.9.2009, I next downloaded http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/test/OI-hipster-text-20210405.iso and that led to a successful installation on CentOS 7.9.2009 with virt-manager 1.5.

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Z840 "fun". At least Solaris 11.4 works :-)

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I decided that I'd had all of battling OI I could stand for now. I tried installing Debian 10.9, but it would not boot from a 4 TB disk. I guessed that when I saw the "install GRUB" dialog. But, you don't know until you try. I installed Solaris 11.4 to a single disk and did a "pkg install so

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I ran into this a long time ago trying to set up a ZFS image on a USB drive for a laptop. Ultimately I gave up as it had to be plugged into the "correct" USB port and that seemed to change unpredictably. Reg On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 03:01:03 PM CDT, Stephan Althaus wrote: Hello! Tha

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread Stephan Althaus
On 04/22/21 08:12 PM, Hugh McIntyre wrote: I had a similar error when moving some disks around in a case where disks/pools moved from direct-attach SATA to/from a SAS expansion card. The original problem I saw was "invalid vdev configuration" although other cases reported data corruption.  You

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Nelson H. F. Beebe
Today, I downloaded http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/test/OI-hipster-gui-20210405.iso and attempted to create a new VM on CentOS 7.9.2009 with virt-manager 1.5.0 and qemu-system-x86_64 2.0.0. The initial BIOS screen comes up, asks for a keyboard type, and proceeds to display a ni

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-22 Thread Hugh McIntyre
I had a similar error when moving some disks around in a case where disks/pools moved from direct-attach SATA to/from a SAS expansion card. The original problem I saw was "invalid vdev configuration" although other cases reported data corruption. You may also want to check /var/adm/messages f

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Panics but no dumps ???

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Because of a message about VTOCs and needing an EFI label I relabeled the disks, created a RAIDZ2 pool and installed to an existing pool. I then booted single user, setup dump and swap. It crashed but no dump. Not even a panic message in messages. A 2nd crash did write a panic message and "d

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Judah Richardson
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 10:20 AM Richard L. Hamilton wrote: > I don't reinstall from an image, but run pkg update almost daily, and have > rarely (maybe once, a long time ago) run into anything that didn't boot > properly again (such that I had to boot an older BE and get rid of the > failed one)

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
I don't reinstall from an image, but run pkg update almost daily, and have rarely (maybe once, a long time ago) run into anything that didn't boot properly again (such that I had to boot an older BE and get rid of the failed one). That's as VirtualBox guests (usually current VirtualBox, except t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Some internals questions

2021-04-22 Thread Alan Coopersmith
On 4/22/21 6:40 AM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: Where is the code that creates the symlinks in /var/run, when is it supposed to run and what determines the timing? If you mean the OpenGL symlinks for graphics cards: https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/tree/oi/hips

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread John D Groenveld
In message , "Nelson H. F. Bee be" writes: >Are openindiana developers on this list willing to post a list of VMs >on which candidate ISO images have been tested before end users try to >install them on physical machines? Using bhyve(5). I was able to install via the OI-hipster-text-20210405.iso.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Austin Kim
On Apr 21, 2021, at 11:13 PM, Nelson H. F. Beebe wrote: > > John D Groenveld asks today > >>> Can you install from the latest installation media on that PC? >>> http://dlc.openindiana.org/isos/hipster/test/> > > There are a lot of recent discussions on this list about installation > problems o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I don't understand "adapter". I'm using a Display Port on the K5000 feeding an HP DP to DVI adapter to the DVI port of the 1600x1200 Princeton monitor. So I don't think VGA enters into this at the moment. It might once I get a new KVM switch as the one I've been using died and wouldn't pass th

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Some internals questions

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Do kernel modules load in a consistent order? Where is the code that creates the symlinks in /var/run, when is it supposed to run and what determines the timing? On the first boot of 2021.04_rc1 after install, the X server can't find libglk.so. I stopped in single user mode and rewrote the

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
VESA only can work when adapter does have VESA/VGA bios. With UEFI, there is no requirement to have it. Sent from my iPhone > On 22. Apr 2021, at 16:26, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss > wrote: > >  > VESA *does* work with a UEFI boot. I had 2020.10 booting from a 4x 4 TB > RAID

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
VESA *does* work with a UEFI boot. I had 2020.10 booting from a 4x 4 TB RAIDZ2 pool using the VESA driver before I tried to boot 2021.04_rc1. On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 08:07:18 AM CDT, Gary Mills wrote: This is a known broken configuration of OI. It cannot work. The VESA driver is a fa

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Gary Mills
On Thu, Apr 22, 2021 at 12:48:26AM +, Reginald Beardsley wrote: >I am doing a UEFI boot as it is a 4x 4 TB RAIDZ2 pool. The UEFI vs SMI >boot would make a lot of sense. However, it still leaves the problem of >2020.10 crashing before reaching the desktop. This is a known broken con

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
There are very few developers. As a consequence responsibility for testing must fall on the regular user community. It should in any case for the simple reason that installation on physical hardware is more of an issue than on a VM and no one can support very many physical machines. I have a si