Re: [Open Babel] OpenBabel-discuss Digest, Vol 109, Issue 2

2015-06-03 Thread Yoel
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Re: [Open Babel] OpenBabel-discuss Digest, Vol 109, Issue 2

2015-06-03 Thread Yoel
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Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-05 Thread Yoel
Thanks Noel On 5 December 2013 16:12, Noel O'Boyle wrote: > ...and in relation to this, I've just checked and I'm afraid that > access to the stereo object is missing in the Java bindings. I will > add it to my TODO list. > > - Noel > > On 3 December 20

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-05 Thread Yoel
is it right that you don't support R and S? I'm new to openbabel like two days old only but I have already seen that "facade.GetTetrahedralStereo(atom.GetId())" will return OBTetrahedralConfig (java) wich contain a Config structure/object with a winding property that has two possible values: clockw

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-04 Thread Yoel
Ana this is great! Thanks so much for letting us take peek! I'll take a closer look later. Best wishes Yoel -- View this message in context: http://forums.openbabel.org/stereo-config-question-tp4656879p4657016.html Sent from the General discussion mailing list archive at Nabbl

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-04 Thread Yoel
lockwise" > center: 2 > from: 1 > refs: 3 4 5 > > This means that looking from atom 1 towards 2, the atoms 3, 4, 5 > should be arranged clockwise. I hope you agree that this perfectly > specifies the stereochemistry at atom 2. > > - Noel > > > On 4 December 2013

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
seminars, in no place at all! Clearly I made a mistake in trying to help Dimitri with the chemistry. Good luck! On 4 December 2013 00:00, Craig James wrote: > Hi Yoel, > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:44 PM, Yoel wrote: >> >> Hum! I’m pretty confident with what I know but the issu

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
I meant I didn’t* see anyone that couldn’t do it On 3 December 2013 23:36, Yoel wrote: > Indeed it is hard but I have to STRONGLY disagree that we chemists > assign R and S configuration in any other way that by applying the CIP > rules… and for those molecules that are more complex w

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
Indeed it is hard but I have to STRONGLY disagree that we chemists assign R and S configuration in any other way that by applying the CIP rules… and for those molecules that are more complex we usually take more time. Neither during my PhD years or my postgrad years I saw any organic chemist that c

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
down to applying the CIP rules. Do you disagree with that? On 3 December 2013 22:34, Craig James wrote: > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 1:11 PM, Yoel wrote: >> >> Craig, >> >> Thanks a lot for this. I do not know the smile notation in details >> however as a chemist I’m p

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
I’m going to want to understand more about smile representation. Cheers Yoel On 3 December 2013 15:51, Craig James-2 [via Open Babel] wrote: > > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Dimitri Maziuk <[hidden email]> wrote: >> >> On 12/03/2013 01:28 PM, Yoel wrote: >&g

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
I find you one of the most interesting paper I know regarding this topic http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ci990090v The principle author P. Matos has several other papers on implementing CIP algorithms I have never tackle this problem myself but she is quite convinced that the CIP are a most

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
It shouldn't be any different to CIP since those are the rules I was talking about however I was being super short! There very interesting research papers on the topic that I came across quite sometime ago. I am sure that with time I could get one for you. However, the local connectivity should be

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
Dimitri, In this case you do know which way you are looking. For brevity let's consider a tetrahedral carbon atom with four different substituents... the first thing you do is to assign them priorities based on there atomic numbers then you place the smallest priority backward... this gives you t

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
Thank Noel, I found the docs pretty clear. My problem isn’t with open babel directly but with understanding how to, for example, use standard out to write my object using the java bindings… the lit example: converting this "std::cout << facade.GetTetrahedralStereo(atom->GetId()) << std::endl;" t

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
I still haven't been able to print the winding property but obviously if it turns out that the algorithm can't properly find the clockwise and anticlockwise values then it is not useful unless ALA is the an exceptional error. -- View this message in context: http://forums.openbabel.org/stereo-c

Re: [Open Babel] stereo config question

2013-12-03 Thread Yoel
Is it right that you don't support R and S? I'm new to openbabel like two days old only but I have already seen that "facade.GetTetrahedralStereo(atom.GetId())" will return OBTetrahedralConfig (java) wich contain a Config structure/object with a winding property that has two possible values: clockw