Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread John Bradley
On Behalf Of Breno >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:10 PM >> To: Eran Hammer >> Cc: OAuth WG >> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 >> >> That is much clearer. Thank you. >> >> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Eran H

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Nat Sakimura
ail.com] On Behalf Of Breno > > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:10 PM > > To: Eran Hammer > > Cc: OAuth WG > > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > > > That is much clearer. Thank you. > > > > On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 9:17 A

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Mike Jones
ubject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 Mike, Nat, Does the new text work for you? EH > -Original Message- > From: breno.demedei...@gmail.com > [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Breno > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 12:10 PM > To: E

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer
gt; people. > > > > Better? > > > > EH > > > > > >> -Original Message- > >> From: breno.demedei...@gmail.com > >> [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Breno > >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:50 AM > >&g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Breno
rom: breno.demedei...@gmail.com >> [mailto:breno.demedei...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Breno >> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 8:50 AM >> To: Eran Hammer >> Cc: OAuth WG >> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 >> >> To summarize,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Eran Hammer
ent authentication requirements to each. Or the server could > > require separate client registration for each component. > > > >> > >> EH > >> > >>> -Original Message- > >>> From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] > &

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-17 Thread Breno
From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] >>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:12 PM >>> To: Eran Hammer >>> Cc: Nat Sakimura; OAuth WG >>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 15, 20

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
-Original Message- >> From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:12 PM >> To: Eran Hammer >> Cc: Nat Sakimura; OAuth WG >> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 >> >> On Thu, Mar 15, 201

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
? EH > -Original Message- > From: Breno de Medeiros [mailto:br...@google.com] > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:12 PM > To: Eran Hammer > Cc: Nat Sakimura; OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 13:13,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
s that do not fit the >>>>> current type definitions. >>>>> >>>>> It is far too late for us to define a new client type, along with all >>>>>the >>>>> security considerations that such type imply. Our entire security >>>

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
uch type imply. Our entire security >>>> consideration section and protocol design are based on have a well >>>>defined >>>> client type. >>>> >>>> Requiring separate registration for each component is the most >>>> straight-forw

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
ecify such >>> complex clients." seems a very round about way to say that the core spec >>> already provides for such arrangements in the most common scenario. It >>>is a >>> bit of a stretch to say that the server provides "other registration >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
>> >> The best way to move forward is to take a minute and ask the group to >>share >> how they handle such cases or how they think they should be handled. >>Based >> on that we can come up with a clear solution. >> >> EH >> >> From: Breno

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
w they handle such cases or how they think they should be handled. Based > on that we can come up with a clear solution. > > EH > > From: Breno de Medeiros > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:56:13 -0700 > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: Nat Sakimura , OAuth WG > > Subject: Re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
Mar 2012 09:56:13 -0700 To: Eran Hammer-Lahav mailto:e...@hueniverse.com>> Cc: Nat Sakimura mailto:sakim...@gmail.com>>, OAuth WG mailto:oauth@ietf.org>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 07:45, Eran Hammer mailto:e...@hue

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Mike Jones
an Hammer Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 7:45 AM To: Nat Sakimura; Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 This add-on is unnecessary. It already says the authorization server can handle it any way it wants. The fact that other registration o

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Breno de Medeiros
2 2:04 AM > *To:* Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG > > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > ** ** > > ** ** > > So, Eran's first proposal: > > ** ** > > A client application consisting of multiple components, eac

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Eran Hammer
case raised. EH From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Nat Sakimura Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 2:04 AM To: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 So, Eran's first proposal: A client application

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread John Bradley
That seems to cover it. My problem is that client registration has been treated largely as being out of scope other than some general principals. We are now adding normative text, but still not specifying mechanisms. Nat's text allows existing practice with complex clients like Facebook with

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-15 Thread Nat Sakimura
So, Eran's first proposal: A client application consisting of multiple components, each with its own client type (e.g. a distributed client with both a confidential server-based component and a public browser-based component), MUST register each component separately as a different client t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Barry Leiba
> Off list. Or not so much off list. He-he. b ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Barry Leiba
Off list. > It would be great if people could just reply stating which they like best. כן Sometimes, one just has to whack people over the head. b ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
rch 14, 2012 1:20 PM > To: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > > I am sorry, but with this language this is a different spec with > > different compliance profiles and without supplying enough guidance > > for creating int

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Barry Leiba
> I am sorry, but with this language this is a different spec with > different compliance profiles and without supplying enough guidance > for creating interoperable server implementations for common > deployment models. As I read this thread, I see two things come out clearly: 1. Eran didn't int

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Breno de Medeiros
gt; > >> -Original Message----- >> From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:42 AM >> To: Eran Hammer; Marius Scurtescu >> Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG >> Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Richer, Justin P.
#x27;m open to other suggestions as > long as they account for the deep dependency this protocol has on client type > identification. > > EH > > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] >> Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
EH > -Original Message- > From: Mike Jones [mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:42 AM > To: Eran Hammer; Marius Scurtescu > Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG > Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > All

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Mike Jones
ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:35 AM To: Marius Scurtescu Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 You are not reading it correctly. This is a *registration* requirement, meaning, the client has to inform

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
s Scurtescu [mailto:mscurte...@google.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:24 AM > To: Eran Hammer > Cc: Breno de Medeiros; OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > Before v23 a web server client could use either response_type=code or > re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Marius Scurtescu
> authorization server can properly enforce the rest of the normative security >> language in the specification. >> > >> > EH >> > >> > >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
; To: Eran Hammer > Cc: Marius Scurtescu; OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > Can you explain to me why response_type is necessary at all after this > change. > > If a javascript client (candidate for token usage) and the web server &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Breno de Medeiros
language in > the specification. > > EH > > >> -Original Message- >> From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf >> Of Marius Scurtescu >> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:53 AM >> To: OAuth WG >> Cc: Breno de

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Eran Hammer
rius Scurtescu > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:53 AM > To: OAuth WG > Cc: Breno de Medeiros > Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23 > > Hi, > > Nat Sakimura started a thread on the OpenID Connect list about a breaking > change introduced by rev

[OAUTH-WG] Fw: Breaking change in OAuth 2.0 rev. 23

2012-03-14 Thread Marius Scurtescu
Hi, Nat Sakimura started a thread on the OpenID Connect list about a breaking change introduced by rev 2.3 The paragraph in question is in section 2.1: "A client application consisting of multiple components, each with its own client type (e.g. a distributed client with both a confidential serve