[OAUTH-WG] Re: SD-JWT linkability

2024-12-17 Thread Steffen Schwalm
Standardization does not enable legal solutions – that`s job of legislators but standardization shall recognize existing standardization on records management which is affected here. Acc. to ISO 15489, ISO 30301 (ISO Tc 46 Sc 11) the definition of retention period is in responsibility of records

[OAUTH-WG] Re: SD-JWT linkability

2024-12-17 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 17. Dec 2024, at 21:04, Paul Bastian wrote: > > RFC7049 doesn't even have a privacy consideration section although it > contains linkable data structures that may be utilized to track users. I’m not sure why you pick an RFC that has been superseded a while ago by an Internet Standard, but l

[OAUTH-WG] Re: SD-JWT linkability

2024-12-17 Thread Joseph Heenan
Hi Watson Just to respond to the suggested text: > > "When disclosures include information easily understood to be > identifying, users intuitive view of what they are revealing largely > matches the underlying technical reality. In cases where the > information being disclosed is not identifyin

[OAUTH-WG] Re: SD-JWT linkability

2024-12-17 Thread Tom Jones
i don't disagree with Paul - my comments addressed the text of the change. Will "Disclosures" be a part of the standard (even security concerns?) If that is the case, then the means to address the disclosures will need to be realistic. AFAIK the only proposed use of the SD-JWT is in OID4VP. In th

[OAUTH-WG] Re: SD-JWT linkability

2024-12-17 Thread Paul Bastian
I think  people on this list are overly critical towards SD-JWT and I don't understand it. I'm not aware that these kind of statements have been done in other IETF standards in a comparable context. Please correct me why neither JWT, CWT, JOSE, COSE, CBOR nor X.509 have specific text about thes

[OAUTH-WG] Re: SD-JWT linkability

2024-12-17 Thread Paul Bastian
That's because it isn't. SD-JWT has no direct dependency or relation to any OpenID spec. On 17.12.24 02:37, Watson Ladd wrote: On Mon, Dec 16, 2024, 5:26 PM Tom Jones wrote: I could have been more clear. If a verifier is asking for information, it must include strong human-centric

[OAUTH-WG] Re: SD-JWT linkability

2024-12-17 Thread Tom Jones
Legal requirements can only be adjudicated by legal means. The common approach in standards developments should be to enable a legal solution not to mandate it. thx ..Tom (mobile) On Mon, Dec 16, 2024, 11:14 PM Steffen Schwalm wrote: > In > 80% of use cases the retention period is not defined b

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Browser-Based Applications - Document Shepherd Review

2024-12-17 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Thanks Philippe! That's very helpful. I wonder if there is a way to somehow capture some of this explanation in the document to make sure implementers are clear on this issue? Otherwise, I am fine with your explanation. Regards, Rifaat On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 11:22 AM Philippe De Ryck < phil

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Browser-Based Applications - Document Shepherd Review

2024-12-17 Thread Philippe De Ryck
> On 17 Dec 2024, at 14:58, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef wrote: > > Thanks Philippe! > > Just to make sure I understand, with regards to the following statement: >> When the attacker manages to send such a malicious request without a >> preflight, the server would process it,... > > The server will proc

[OAUTH-WG] RFC 8693 OAuth 2.0 Token Exchange: Request for quick clarification on questions

2024-12-17 Thread Arjun Balla
Hi I’d appreciate your input in just one word or one sentence on a few points regarding OAuth 2.0 Token Exchange integration—I’ll figure out the rest on my own. *Use Case:* Token Exchange Delegation Flow Alice encounters an issue with the Acme Client Application and wants to delegate authorizatio

[OAUTH-WG] Re: Browser-Based Applications - Document Shepherd Review

2024-12-17 Thread Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Thanks Philippe! Just to make sure I understand, with regards to the following statement: > When the attacker manages to send such a malicious request without a > preflight, the server would process it,... The server will process it because of a bug on the server? or will it always process such