howing it
> properly - if possible.
> Andrew
My guess would be that the 943 errors shown here may be a clue...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2FEUreferendum.blogspot.com&charset=(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0
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rounded corners, for
example.
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do; that message is not likely to be generated by Netsurf.
Most good ISPs have made some serious efforts to stop web forms being
used by spammers and the like and insist that they contain one of their
own valid addresses. Why not put in the line it was asking for and see
what happens?
> An example of one of my forms is at:-
> http://www.zen57462.zen.co.uk/nowirul/emadd/9.htm
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). So you maybe don't need to be
able to disable colours, you perhaps need to be able to turn them on!!!
Someone else can hunt around the bug-tracker for that one, I'm off to bed.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Drake
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Nope, they look okay to me. But wait! Netsurf renders the colours
> > wrongly and the _always_underlined_li
y other browser). So you maybe
> > don't need to be able to disable colours, you perhaps need to be able
> > to turn them on!!!
> Its pale green here (CRT, NS 28Dec07)
It should be. The rest of this thread will reveal why, particularly
Message with ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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t existing
pre-deprecation content. IYSWIM
The meaning of bgcolors in tables is clearer if you are able to see this
in a browser which does all three, such as Netsurf. :-o
hello
world
Each element can have its own bgcolor.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chika
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 06 Jan, Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [Snip]
> > > although bgcolor is a deprecated tag - CSS is preferred. See
> > > http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/tables.html#
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Barry E Allen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Of course, bgcolor in the headers has a different effect to bgcolor
> > in the cells or rows, as my examp
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Porter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7 Jan 2008 Tim Hill wrote:
> > IIRC there are only three (now obscure) tags which are obsolete and
> > therefore not meant to be supported; all are replaced by which
> > its
al code,
though I realise it is deprecated and not included in XML thanks to
goalpost syndrome.
Netsurf here (2.0 1.11.2007) responds correctly to either.
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must be a well
> messed up site to be sending the page as text.
Unfortunately, the site works in windoze browsers here so they may do
nothing but I have asked them to check the configuration of their server
anyway. (Download the page, change the filetype to html and it works,
after a fashion. 125 errors at w3c)
The page uses javascript for layout so will look 'wrong' in NetSurf.
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ys
'properly' in NetSurf 22.1.2008.
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this site.
> They all seem to work on Windoze :o(
A shame that windoze browsers do work but should they? The page begins
with .
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Porter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Snip]
> Btw, it's "a criterion" - spell checkers don't spot grammatical and
> semantic errors.
I hope one day someone will come along with a pedantry checker. ;-)
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Porter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 13 May 2008 Tim Hill wrote:
> >> Btw, it's "a criterion" - spell checkers don't spot grammatical and
> >> semantic errors.
> > I hope one day someone will
t;CSS 1 - Nearly
Done". vlink is also present in HTML5 so perhaps we must but wait.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Porter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 5 Jun 2008 Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael
> > Bell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> One of the things that I truly miss after Fresco is tha
rror message spat out by
NetSurf told the reporter exactly what please they should do.
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nd it starts searching where the magnifying glass is?
It is not confused. You are. ;-)
> And of course, it finds nothing...
. . . because it's the scale view tool! :-D
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should all appear at once in an editor in
pressing f8? Please, God, no.
There are some of us who maintain web sites and the way the search (and
edit) functions work is just fine and dandy, thanks. (Though I am not
averse to configurable change.)
Sorry to butt in.
T
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Drake
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger
> > Darlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Darlington
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6 Sep 2008, Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger
> > Darlington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 5 Sep 2008, Michael Drake wro
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roger Darlington
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6 Sep 2008, Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Richard Porter
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On 5 Sep 2008 Michael Drake wrote:
> >> Th
/0201727870/ref=sr_11_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1225297865&sr=11-1
My email address is genuine. Please do not reply to this post here.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob
Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:41:24 + (GMT) Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Snip]
> If you didn't want me to reply here, you should have sent your message
> to me, and not the list.
Mere
ject) & export it for
> printing. RiscOS Adjust 4.39 - Netsurf 26 )ct r5632
It /really/ is /much/ simpler to click menu over the map, then Object,
Export, Sprite, and drag it into an app for printing.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Newman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Snip]
> > I was able to export the page as a drawfile. The map was intact but I
> > lost some of th
I refer to the following animated gif which I know has been a bit broken
since creation but which does seem to display in every browser /except/
netsurf.
http://www.tightfittheatre.co.uk/sprite.gif>
Why is that?
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Williams
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I refer to the following animated gif which I know has been a bit
> > broken since creation but whic
gh http://validator.w3.org/ to see what I mean.
If I was asking you to do a mailshot, I wouldn't expect 10% not to fit
through an unknown brand of size-compliant letterbox.
T
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Drake
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Validation results aren't a guarantee of anything.
It's a start.
The chances are that if they can't get that bit right...
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob
Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 05 Dec 2008 21:03:29 + (GMT) Tim Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Michael Drake
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
d will save so much time.
But okay, point noted, shan't mention validators here again but I reserve
the right to spit them in the face of so-called web developers who think
'everyone uses a pee sea'.
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In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rob Kendrick
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[Snip missed irony]
> The end.
Let's hope so.
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t;You must put an unit after your number" (two for each
positioning element 'top' and 'left'in each page). But I know I'll be
told Validators are crap and a waste of time, irrelevant, and should all
be expunged so I'll shut up soon. Putting 'px' after each occurrence
should render the page correctly. And does.
Should (does) NS assume pixels, points or parsecs when no units are
present?
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miscalculate the need for a newline.
On my home page, the third column gathers many extraneous newlines when
the page narrows, but only after the word 'configuration' in each case.
:-/
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In article <692fe22650.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
wrote:
> On 1 Feb 2009 Tim Hill wrote:
> > I have just noticed an oddity, even with the latest build. Please
> > will someone check that I'm not going mad and I haven't done
> > something i
In article <5026fac702asg...@inspire.net.nz>, Keith Hopper
wrote:
> In article , Richard Porter
> wrote:
> > On 1 Feb 2009 Tim Hill wrote:
[Snip]
> Netsurf still inserts a space after an end tag - so that
> an end tag immediately followed by a visible or invisible ch
under certain circumstances
So, is this well known by the team or is a bug report required for each
occurrence?
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In article , Roger Darlington
wrote:
> On 3 Feb 2009, Tim Hill wrote:
> >
> > Just to follow-up this issue of Netsurf generating extra space, I
> > have found an even simpler case:
> >
> > .(italic normal).
> >
> > I refer to the extra
users are still on 1024 or less horizontal pixels.
T
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ce
> > between.
> How quirky! I must admit to never using the 'i' element as it has
> been deprecated for some years - but interesting.
NOT deprecated.
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/present/graphics.html#h-15.2.1
http://www.w3Schools.com/ (search for "")
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In article , Richard Porter
wrote:
> On 17 Feb 2009 Keith Hopper wrote:
> > The element which should be used is the 'em' element and, instead of
> > the 'b' element, use 'strong'. The reason for the others being
> > deprecated
they're not
[Snip]
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w.
I have emailed one of the authors but given how long it took them to fix
the < (missing ;) problem, don't hold your breath but perhaps use a
different, more tolerant, browser in the meantime. Oregano2 works.
A nuisance though, if like me you use Organizer to open it every day
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r bug report was closed because someone thought a zero length field
makes sense. ;-)
In the meantime, you could use this link for play.com searching:
http://www.play.com/Search.aspx?searchstring=type+here
HTH
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lack.
Michael has defined colours in the body tag
Unfortunately (and perhaps very surprisingly) NetSurf ignores LINK and
VLINK in BODY so unless link colours are set with a CSS default colours
only apply. When the background and default link colour are the same or
too similar, netsurf is useless. Wonderful otherwise, of course. :-)
HTH
T
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7;t? A shame so it is that the term deprecated
seems misunderstood so widely? Innit?)
With apologies to Armstrong and Miller.
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hpshow:
http://panmental.de/public/programming_projects/Slideshow%20script%20in%20PHP/
Some of it needs javascript so it's not entirely suitable to be mentioned
on this list. Sorry. :-(
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if you have the habit of varying the old
attributes from page to page this will be of limited use. ;-)
Also unfortunately, there are some issues with NetSurf loading CSS files
locally so you may not know it all works except when uploaded to your web
space.
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t!
> If I had the programming skills I would write a routine to this
> automatically.
Someone already has!
> *Incidentally what a superb site.
Indeed. Setting up Organizer to open APOD is great too:
Create a task alarm with
URIdispatch http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/
in the Message section.
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he page or the URL
and I'll take a look.
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his one is too.
> > http://sourceforge.net/community/cca09/nominate/?project_name=NetSurf&;
> > project_url=http://sourceforge.net/projects/netsurf/
tinyurl.com is invaluable if you chose to use an editor which breaks long
urls:
http://tinyurl.com/vote4NetSurf
is much better. :-)
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ediately and smoothly with page up/down or with window tools.
Iyonix RISC OS 5.15 and NetSurf r7518
HTH
[Snip]
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igners think that everyone
> has a PDF plugin and will display the document in the browser window.
This happens in the pee sea too. It is equally frustrating with Firefox
when a PDF handler has been installed and the damn' thing still opens
blank windows.
IIRC the answer with NetSurf is to shift/click the link.
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n r7730 (RISC OS 5.15).
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In article <20090706092842.4389c...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob
Kendrick wrote:
> On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 07:01:42 +0100 Dave Symes
> wrote:
> > In article <20090706003522.53717...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>,
> >Rob Kendrick wrote:
> > > On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:03:02 +0100 Mike Hobbs
In article <507792044drh.li...@phone.coop>,
Russell Hafter - Lists wrote:
[Snip]
Replied off-list.
In article <1247005795.32517.169.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell
wrote:
> Not really. There's just no sensible way to determine that the
> available fonts have changed.
? Other apps (e.g. Artworks) seem to notice when changes are made to the
available fonts.
> At least, not without yet another sup
In article <1247166925.32517.183.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell
wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 19:35 +0100, Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article <1247005795.32517.169.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell
> > wrote:
> > > Not really. There's just no sensible way to dete
t; This isn't usually a problem because I would normally put the list
> inside a table to left-align the items but centre the list as a whole
> (I'm sure somebody will point out that I should be doing it in css).
You can try
one
two
buckle
but that doesn't work either.
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7188, r7024, r6662 and r6397. I have
earlier versions too, if anyone is interested, but I'll not upload any of
those until someone asks. They are in their original format (zip files
called netsurf.zip) so please take care.
My NetSurf downloads are here: www.timil.com/riscos/netsurf
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cos
Go on, prove the septics wrong
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Web these days are Flash animations. On a pee sea I
have installed Flash blockers in order to make sites like the Radio Times
acceptable which makes FF more like NS!!! Some advertisers must have
become wise to this as some seem to be reverting to animated GIFs.
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In article <20090918232452.30c5f...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob
Kendrick wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:58:23 +0100 Tim Hill wrote:
> > Are there 500 user of the RISC OS version of NetSurf willing to
> > donate £4 a month to support a developer?
> &
sky turns yellow with pink spots and 500
people commit to support a developer, it won't necessarily be me - the
pledge is just worded that way.
Is that clear now?
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In article , Vince M Hudd
wrote:
> Rob Kendrick wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:42:49 +0100 Tim Hill wrote:
> > > As I said elsewhere, if the sky turns yellow with pink spots and
> > > 500 people commit to support a developer, it won't necessarily be
> >
a slide and
a drag too many?
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working as they should.
Hurrah! I can confirm this combination now works! Aw, and I was just
getting used to having to use ChromePlus in the pee sea to test my local
sites. :-)
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[huge snip of QUOTED mis-posting}
You didn't mean to post this here did you?
Please don't reply to this!
e clarification.
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(not) said. Constantly repeating 'that's not what was
meant, read it' is unhelpful if the wrong nuances are still clouding
minds. What does 'likely' mean to different people? Almost certain?
Many corporate press releases are intended to clarify as well as inform.
I beli
how extract a meaning from them that is
> clearly different from what was written.
Welcome to the real world.
www.plainspeaking..co.uk is worth a read.
A tip: try and avoid woolly words and be precise in what you say.
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os/Buttonbar4Netsurf.zip
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ystroke to do this from a selected bit in a
> textfile. *wget is on the right line but of course fetches the stuff
> only as text in a taskwindow.
URIdispatch http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/
works in Organizer as a task alarm or in an obey file. I guess that's
what you're after. :-)
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ill answer that but I was under the impression (hah!)
that Impulse started out as CC's replacement for the Arthur OS which they
decided was unable to run decent software on the Archimedes. RISC OS hit
the streets first but Impulse was retained to provide their proprietary
means of clipboard h
llow the entry NetSurf to 'NetSurf bug tracker'
where you can peruse 1125 entries before using 'add new' if you need to.
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g a new bug
which isn't, don't you?
The page address linked to the bug tracker from the hotlist in V.3.00 is
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=464312&group_id=51719
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me Boot:Choices.WWW.NetSurf to something else a new
NetSurf choices folder will be created. Perhaps including the elusive
hotlist entries. It will be easy enough to copy across (bits of) files
you want to keep as they're all pretty straightforward and human-readable.
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ace which
at least rid you of the tiny minority of people who are known spammers.
With good filters in place you can splash your email address across the
'net with gay abandon.
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the
address bar? I appreciate this is a keyboard shortcut involving the mouse
(!) but it is better than navigating menus IMO.
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n't make one /as instructed/, take this
pointy hat and sit in the corner.
If you still have problems or suggestions, /contact me by email/.
Further discussion here about my mimemap file will be ignored by me as
this is not where it belongs.
Sorry about the long posting.
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mi-public and give Druck the chance to whinge. ;-)
Sorry, this is my last posting on the topic here.
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d JPG to his dictionary instead of just
hitting return and taking whatever alteration the program suggests!
Mangled URLs are not uncommon. Going back to the Original posting often
sorts it.
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on? These will have
one:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:dadgrvAQrRAJ:www.kodak.com/eknec/PageQuerier.jhtml%3Fpq-path%3D2709%26pq-locale%3Den_US%26gpcid%3D0900688a80c5a9c4+facebook+button+camera&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&ie=
In article , Simon Smith
wrote:
> On 18 Mar, Jim Nagel wrote in message
> <286dfbb551@nails.abbeypress.net>:
> > there appears to be no way to scroll right to read the rest of the
> > text in the inner pane of this warning generated by Netsurf:
> > www.abbeypress.net/TEMP/NS-certificatepa
I cried too..)
The page address returned is
http://guide.opendns.com/?url=source.netsurf-browser.org%2F%3Frev%3D12120%26view%3Drev&servfail
Here's the noscript bit...
In article <20110322111353.gb15...@rjek.com>, Rob Kendrick
wrote:
> Anyway, this isn't related to NetSurf, or the problem reported (which
> is an accidental server misconfiguration, not a DNS fault.)
What about its inablility to render the bit in my
ding.
Indeed.
> On the latest version (r12128) it just displays the page's background
> colour as well. View Source shows that pretty much the whole page is
> Javascript, so it's no wonder NetSurf fails to render it.
There is a section which should displa
with a
platinum membership. Others with faster, newer PCs may not notice quite
so much.
(Any responses elsewhere please)
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line feed in table
cells. That, and you miss the google ads included by using a javascript
script. Shame. ;-)
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ement search
from the URL bar? I would like to type, say, 'banana' into the bar and a
search result to appear if a DN lookup fails to find http://banana
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In article
, Chris
Young wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:12:23 +0100, Tim Hill wrote:
> > On the subject of searching, is there any future plan to implement
> > search from the URL bar? I would like to type, say, 'banana' into the
> > bar and a search result to
In article <0bd6efc751.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter
wrote:
> On 22 Apr 2011 Tim Hill wrote:
> > In article
> > ,
> > Chris Young wrote:
> >> On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:12:23 +0100, Tim Hill wrote:
[Snip]
> > Um, no. I would rather
there, examining their code -
maybe cutting and pasting - pays dividends. I say maybe because it
doesn't work with Netsurf it seems.)
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In article <51d9dde821joh...@ukgateway.net>, John Williams
wrote:
> In article <51d9dc4a02...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote:
[snip]
Okay, you can forget what I posted, which was wrong. A re-boot reinstated
NetSurf (r12443)'s ability to cut'n'paste and I have not
hich successfully
implements dynamic CSS menus in NetSurf? (Though let's not go overboard à
là www.RoyalMail.com if you do.)
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In article <3f01e750248.4c109...@smtp.ntlworld.com>, Chris Young
wrote:
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011 16:44:53 +0100, Tim Hill wrote:
> > I guess we will need to write a pop-out or drop-down menus in the
> > bits of CSS that NetSurf does understand but I suspect it isn't
>
Surf r12638 here; I can open the
> > Google home page, and navigate to the sites displayed thereon, just
> > as before. What am I not understanding?
> That some of us are using old versions of NetSurf. The issue has been
> fixed.
Unless you log in to iGoogle and then google
ed to delete the cookie (iconbar>Open>Sjow cookies...) then
> quit and reload Netsurf..
> Now you should be able to type www.google.co.uk into the URL bar and
> get the default page back.
[Snip]
Thanks for the reminder. I'
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