Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-15 Thread lists
In article <5418100903...@mightyoak.org.uk>, Bob Latham wrote: > I've tried hiding !cache so I can control when it is filer_booted but it > still gives the problem. I downloaded #1967 a day or so ago, merged the provided !Boot and !System directories with my existing and I have seen no proble

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-15 Thread Bob Latham
In article <9ed6811754.andrew-...@waitrose.com>, Andrew Pinder wrote: > In message <20140613221516.gc1...@platypus.pepperfish.net> > on 13 Jun 2014 Rob Kendrick wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 09:42:54PM +0100, Andrew Pinder wrote: > >>> Couple people try moving it elsewhere (ie, outside

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-15 Thread David Pitt
Andrew Pinder, on 15 Jun, wrote: > In message > on 14 Jun 2014 Andrew Pinder wrote: > > > In message > > on 14 Jun 2014 Steve Fryatt wrote: > > > > I don't run NetSurf during the boot sequence -- are all the people > > > seeing issues doing that? What are people's Next slots configured to

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-15 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message on 14 Jun 2014 Andrew Pinder wrote: > In message > on 14 Jun 2014 Steve Fryatt wrote: >> I don't run NetSurf during the boot sequence -- are all the people seeing >> issues doing that? What are people's Next slots configured to during the >> boot process? > On completion of boot

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message on 14 Jun 2014 Steve Fryatt wrote: > I don't run NetSurf during the boot sequence -- are all the people seeing > issues doing that? What are people's Next slots configured to during the > boot process? On completion of booting, my Next slot is set to 640k. I don't know how to tell

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread Peter Young
On 14 Jun 2014 Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 14 Jun, Michael Drake wrote in message > <539c509c.8090...@netsurf-browser.org>: >> >> >> On 14/06/14 14:30, Andrew Pinder wrote: >> We recently decided to make use of "!Cache" as we assumed it would be suitable and correct. (None of the

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread cj
In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > I don't run NetSurf during the boot sequence Neither do I. -- Chris Johnson

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread Steve Fryatt
On 14 Jun, Michael Drake wrote in message <539c509c.8090...@netsurf-browser.org>: > > > On 14/06/14 14:30, Andrew Pinder wrote: > > > > We recently decided to make use of "!Cache" as we assumed it would be > > > suitable and correct. (None of the core developers are actually using > > > RI

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread cj
In article <539c509c.8090...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > Our options are to get Cache from > http://www.snowstone.org.uk/riscos/ > fixed, and continue using it, or create our own simpler solution. Having had a very *quick* look, it seems !Cache is implementing a method of bein

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Drake
On 14/06/14 14:30, Andrew Pinder wrote: >> We recently decided to make use of "!Cache" as we assumed it would be >> suitable and correct. (None of the core developers are actually using >> RISC OS at the moment, so we hadn't checked it actually worked.) > If you give some clues as to how to te

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message <539c4cfe.6020...@netsurf-browser.org> on 14 Jun 2014 Michael Drake wrote: > We recently decided to make use of "!Cache" as we assumed it would be > suitable and correct. (None of the core developers are actually using > RISC OS at the moment, so we hadn't checked it actually worked.

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread Michael Drake
On 14/06/14 13:48, David Pitt wrote: > > All the NetSurf needs to run its cache is a value for Cache$Dir > > pointing to the chosen location. Indeed. The original proposal for Cache by Rob Kendrick[1] simply set two variables in its !Run file. These were: Caches$Write - Expands to where you

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread David Pitt
David Pitt, on 14 Jun, wrote: [snip - !Cache memory issues] Have spent an entertaining morning with this the penny finally dropped. All the NetSurf needs to run its cache is a value for Cache$Dir pointing to the chosen location. -- David Pitt

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-14 Thread David Pitt
d the disadvantage the the SysLog module is not loaded in time for !Cache.!RunImage to use it and is therefore somewhat useless. A more useful evasion is to ensure the the SysLog module is loaded before !Cache is booted. That is what is happening here but so far I have not seen the "Not enough application memory to start Basic" error. Raspberry Pi, OS5.21 (03-Jun-14). Hope this helps. -- David Pitt

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-13 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message <20140613221516.gc1...@platypus.pepperfish.net> on 13 Jun 2014 Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 09:42:54PM +0100, Andrew Pinder wrote: >>> Couple people try moving it elsewhere (ie, outside !Boot.Resources), and >>> configure !Boot to "look at" !Cache *BEFORE* it looks at

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-13 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 09:42:54PM +0100, Andrew Pinder wrote: > > Couple people try moving it elsewhere (ie, outside !Boot.Resources), and > > configure !Boot to "look at" !Cache *BEFORE* it looks at or runs > > !NetSurf, and see if this solves the problem? > > Well, that put it slightly *later*

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-13 Thread Andrew Pinder
In message <20140613143931.gp3...@platypus.pepperfish.net> on 13 Jun 2014 Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 03:32:26PM +0100, Bob Latham wrote: >> In article , >>Andrew Pinder wrote: >>> I've been getting this error when the desktop starts since installing >>> NetSurf CI #1959.

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-13 Thread Rob Kendrick
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 03:32:26PM +0100, Bob Latham wrote: > In article , >Andrew Pinder wrote: > > I've been getting this error when the desktop starts since installing > > NetSurf CI #1959. Clicking on Cancel allow the Boot to complete. I > > mistakenly thought that installing CI #1965

Re: Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-13 Thread Bob Latham
In article , Andrew Pinder wrote: > I've been getting this error when the desktop starts since installing > NetSurf CI #1959. Clicking on Cancel allow the Boot to complete. I > mistakenly thought that installing CI #1965 had solved the problem. > Has anyone else had this problem? > Is it a

Not enough application memory to start Basic

2014-06-13 Thread Andrew Pinder
I've been getting this error when the desktop starts since installing NetSurf CI #1959. Clicking on Cancel allow the Boot to complete. I mistakenly thought that installing CI #1965 had solved the problem. Has anyone else had this problem? Is it associated with the installation of the !Cache re