C14), Pi 2 @ 900MHz. Page
display is substantially different compared to Otter 0.9.09 on RISC
OS. The signing link doesn't work in Netsurf with JS on or off, but
Otter seems fully functional with JS enabled. I didn't make a precise
count of page loading time in Otter - it's considerably slower than
NS, about 20-30 secs JS off/on.
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George
many alternatives to NetSurf. I've used Peter Naulls' Firefox port
in the past, and the Otter port fairly intensively over the past 3
weeks and, while the latter is promising, it is not yet responsive
enough for day-in, day-out use on a low-powered computer such as a Pi
or Iyonix, IMO, and I imagine a considerable amount of work would be
required to make it so. We really do need NetSurf!
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George
ntent
reduces/eliminates the incidence of this error (I get them too, but
usually when JS is enabled). IME NetSurf (Dev CI #3000) works more
quickly and reliably with JS disabled, and without apparent loss of
functionality.
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George
In message <20151013152414.gb23...@platypus.pepperfish.net>
Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 04:39:32AM -0800, Dave Higton wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 13:09:27 +0100 George Greenfield wrote:
>>
>> > I must confess to having used Ctrl-Break
sktop, without evident ill-effects. Is it considered
worse than powering-off at the switch, which is the only other option
AFAIK?
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isabled. I don't mean to be downbeat or decry the efforts of the
developers - NetSurf is a fine lightweight browser, better than any
RISC OS alternative that I've tried**, and no doubt the developers
would be the first to agree that javascript functionality is very much
a work in progress.
(* virtually non-existent)
(** that doesn't include the recent Otter port)
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George
t;
> it is the same using Firefox and Linux, so i guess they have made
> a cockup of some change - It happened mid week.
>
Or possibly they're trying to become more smartphone-friendly?
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George
age then
>> >>>>> the crash happens on clicking on its iconbar icon.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Actually, try 2862, that's more likely to fix it.
>> >>>
>> >>> Or not. I have posted a log at :-
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.pittdj.co.uk/temp/ns2862.zip
>> >>>
>> >>> I will get something on the bug tracker.
>> >>>
>> >> http://bugs.netsurf-browser.org/mantis/view.php?id=2334
>
>> > #2863 fixes it.
>
>> > Many thanks.
>
>> And from me.
>
> Agreed.
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
>
Working fine here too, thanks to Chris.
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>>> I shut the machine down. and
>>> this time the home page loaded, but when I tried to open
>>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/gl52 NetSurf crashed again; I have the
>>> logfile.
>
> coincides exactly with my experience, the only difference being the
> platform, in my case a Pi 1B, and the home page, Google.co.uk here.
>
>
I should have added, enabling/disabling JS made no difference.
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George
I have the
>> logfile.
coincides exactly with my experience, the only difference being the
platform, in my case a Pi 1B, and the home page, Google.co.uk here.
--
George
it's on streetmap.co.uk won't work.
>
>> I've just tried Google again with Javascript off and a search works
>> normally. Anyone able to confirm?
>
> Seems to be true here as well.
>
Same here (NS 3.4 Dev CI #2735).
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George
;
>
>
> http://www.google.com/custom>
>
>
>
>
> Search WWW
>
>
>
>
> Save that as search/html, re-type is as faf (html) and use it
>
Hi Richard
Thanks for the useful workaround: it is now permanently pinned to my
Pi's desktop!
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In message <3d8ea4c054.old_coaster@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>
Tony Moore wrote:
> On 8 May 2015, george greenfield
> wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>> So a temporary workaround might be to enable JS, hotlist all
>> regularly-visited/needed sites, then disable
all
regularly-visited/needed sites, then disable JS and avoid using the
search page entirely.
[NetSurf 3.4 (Dev CI #2735)]
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George
age
bandwidth 449 bytes/second.
Pretty dire, and unsurprisingly the 'inadequate bandwidth' warning was
triggered in both cases. NetSurf is running on my system SD card, a
Kingston 4GB class 10 item. Other system details: NS 3.4 [Dev CI
#2696], RasPi B @ 900MHz, RO 5.21 [RC12, 12-Jan-15].
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George
> Do others see the same mess?
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
Yes.
(System details: NS 3.3 [10-Mar-15], RasPi B @ 900MHz, RO 5.21 [RC12,
12-Jan-15]).
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George
. Reloading the page
> usually then renders the page correctly, in full. Do others get the same
> behaviour, please?
>
>
The page loads normally here on 2 attempts.
System details: NS 3.3, RasPi B @ 900MHz, RO 5.21 [RC12, 12-Jan-15].
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George
ds IKB and 4KB
block write speeds on the SD card in question as 314 and 1067 KB/sec
respectively (and larger blocks much faster e.g. 6809 KB/sec for
64KB)?
*NS 3.3, RasPi B @ 900MHz, RO 5.21 [RC12, 12-Jan-15].
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George
t;>
>> Failure when receiving data from peer
>>
>> and then it exits abruptly.
>>
> Might be a problem with the site. It loads ok here but takes a very long
> time to do so.
>
Works fine here, loaded in 9 secs. NS 3.3, RasPi B, RO 5.21 [RC12,
12-Jan-15].
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George
.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/i/iberdrola-sa-eu-0.75
>> >
>> > sorry for the error
>
>> This can't be found either.
>
> The page is :-
>
> http://www.hl.co.uk/shares/shares-search-results/i/iberdrola-sa-eur-0.75
>
> The crash will appear reasonably promptly with JavaScript disabled and after
> a delay if JavaScript is enabled.
>
> Bug reported.
>
I can confirm the JS-disabled and JS-enabled behaviour described above.
NS 3.3 CI #2641, RaspPi B, 512MB RO 5.21 [RC12, 12-Jan-15]
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George
evised behaviour?
>
> I think a relevant factor may be the number of fonts you have
> installed.
I agree. NetSurf 3.2 scans fonts here (RaspPi 5.21) on loading
(automatic on booting as it's installed in Configure-Boot
sequence-Run) every time. I have 2658 files in !Boot.Resources.!Fonts.
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George
slow. Perhaps there's something odd with my setup.
> Would a logfile be helpful to anyone?
>
> #2441, ARMini, RISC OS 5.19
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Peter.
>
3.7 secs here (RaspPi 900Mhz, 5.21, NS 3.2)
--
George
forum link in 0.7 and the support link in
2.6 secs respectively - I wouldn't call that slow, personally. Setup
is a RaspPi RO 5.21 (900Mhz) running NS 3.2 official release.
--
George
>
> Seems to be the same on the Iyonix.
>
Same here (NS 3.2 stable release, Raspberry Pi B, RO 5.21
(13-Sept-14).
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George
ps sit there waiting for input or idling. Under RISC OS,
> file system writes stop /everthing/ until they complete.
>
[snip]
Does that mean that selecting 'Make file operations multitask' in
!Configure-Filer, actually doesn't?
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George
at my end, then. Thanks.
>
Might be an idea to run a Disknight check on your hard drive: IME a
bad map can cause otherwise inexplicable problems.
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george greenfield
a warning about a
> module being out of date. But the Unicode stuff is not modules:
> would Netsurf warn if any Unicode files are missing or outdated?
>
>
I am in the 'ALWAYS update !Boot and !System' camp. I often notice,
when doing so, that the hourglass/percentage twitches briefly into
life, which suggests that something is being overwritten, i.e.,
altered, presumably necessarily.
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george greenfield
lure in Netsurf for
quite a while, so I wouldn't say it's a new problem. Quitting and
restarting Netsurf seems to restore normal behaviour, as the others
have found.
George
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george greenfield
ey just seem to point back at the main
> page.
Same experience here (RPCEmu0.8.11 running RISC OS 5.20 on Win7-64 PC)
using #1659. Enabling/disabling JS made no perceptible difference.
--
George
t; RiscPC 700 Strong Arm Adjust 4.39 with Unipod
>
> Anybody else tried?
>
#956 displays the PayPal link pages if javascript is disabled.
George
RPCEmu089/4.02 on Win7 64-bit
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george greenfield
e.
Anyway, results here under RPCEmu089/402 (system details as before, NS
#932, json):
Test 1: 3s
Test 2: 8s
Test 3: 2s
The thought occurs that local network speed could have a bearing on
these results as well.
G
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george greenfield
t it is now obsolescent, even by RISC OS
standards. On the PC side using Firefox the page takes under a second.
Cheers,
George
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george greenfield
if you prefer.
Don't get me wrong: I intended no criticism of JS-enabled NetSurf, in
fact I think it's splendid, and to be supported in every way,
including the submission of bug reports where appropriate. It was just
a bit ironic that the bug tracker itself was amongst the casualties!
George
--
george greenfield
mode with 256MB running on
Win7 (64-bit).
George
--
george greenfield
ing it out restored the status quo
(i.e., partial operation of js). I'm running the #727 build.
George
--
george greenfield
nce number between logins, which was also not the
case previously. Other sites: thetrainline.com now goes straight to
train timetable info, previously it showed a 'your js is disabled,
click here for the non-js page'; Streetmap's new Beta page does not
work however, but this may be using Flash as well as javascript.
George
george greenfield
cted due to more precise checking, then.
>
> Haven't knowingly changed anything, but ...
>
> John
>
>
Works OK here too (RPCEmu 0.8.9/RO 4.02, 256MB RAM, Recompiler,
Win7-64-bit). Might be an idea to run FixFonts from inside the
!NetSurf app folder, and/or Disknight in
s the associated names)
> are invisible. Tt will be a great improvement being able to see them.
>
Re javascript and NetSurf, could the 'jsoff' component in the
test-build titles be meaningful, I wonder ;-)
George
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george greenfield
#590 at the moment
and already it is a considerable advance on 2.9 - the rate of progress
is impressive and a credit to the developers.
Cheers
George
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george greenfield
In message
Tony Moore wrote:
> On 12 Oct 2012, Richard Porter wrote:
>> On 12 Oct 2012 george greenfield wrote:
>>
>> > No problem accessing El Reg Software
>> > http://www.theregister.co.uk/software/ and accessing
>> &g
56MB RAM), Win7 (64-bit). NetSurf 3.0 #417..
George
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george greenfield
ite formats OK here.
My details: NS-2012-10-07_21-57-22, RPCEmu089/RO4.02 (256MB RAM), Win7
(64-bit).
George
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george greenfield
iberate
memory makes no odds. The amount of memory claimed is not excessive;
6800k and 5632k for application tasks and dynamic areas respectively.
>
[snipped]
My details: NS-2012-10-07_21-57-22, RPCEmu089/RO4.02, Win7 (64-bit).
george
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george greenfield
que to my setup I will post
> a bug report.
>
No problem with memory here. The site links work also. Memory use
((NS-2012-10-07_21-57-22, RPCEmu089/RO4.02, Win7 (64-bit) for NetSurf
is 6816k (application tasks) and 22208k (dynamic areas).
George
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george greenfield
me here.
(NS-2012-10-07_21-57-22, RPCEmu089/RO4.02, Win7 (64-bit).
George
--
george greenfield
ashing, but the 'Archive' page header
is partially obscured by the frame below ('A monthly magazine for
users of RISC OS'), so is not displaying correctly. The links to the
left seem to work OK, as do the sliders.
(NS-2012-10-02_20-23-02, running on RPCEmu 0.8.9/RO 4.02
In message <52da69197bt...@netsurf-browser.org>
Michael Drake wrote:
> In article <800067da52.geo...@tiscali..co.uk>,
>george greenfield wrote:
>
>> BTW, a small plea to the developers: could the current release details
>> be reinstated under
der 'Info' (Menu over NetSurf icon)? This (if
possible) would make it easier to give NS release details when bug
reporting. At the moment it just says '3.0 (Development)'.
George
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george greenfield
th themselves and developers.
>
> Could not put it better David for many of us it is wait for the next,
> for the beta builds, Thanks, Alan
>
[snip]
If you want stability, use 2.9. If you want to help development of 3.0
and can tolerate the occasional crash/freeze*, use the lat
ried was
>
> Cheers,
>
I'm using the 3.0 development build 2012-09-28_19-54-37 on RPCEmu
0.8.9/RISC OS 4.02 on a Windows 7 (64-bit) PC. Got a run of 'Base
stylesheet failed to load' errors, but quitting and reloading Netsurf
3.0 restored normal service. Seems fine so far, and nippier than 2.9.
Good work!
George
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george greenfield
xes and improvements.
>
>> It is available to download from http://www.netsurf-browser.org/
>
> Thank you Michael and the rest of team.
>
Hear, hear! 2.9 has been running on my Iyonix (RO 5.16) since release
without any problems. It seems faster than 2.8; informal timings I
have done suggest an improvement of 10-20%.
George
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In message <5281bd3323alan_cal...@o2.co.uk>
Alan Calder wrote:
> In article <110fbb8152.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>,
>Peter Young wrote:
>> On 17 Apr 2012 george greenfield
>> wrote:
>
> [Snip]
>
>> > Has anyone managed to
banking is not available' message. Logging in on a js-enabled
Firefox/WinPC is possible however, so the site does still work.
Has anyone managed to do internet banking with Barclays using NetSurf?
George
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george greenfield
In message <52782a9951evanal...@talktalk.net>
wrote:
> In article , george greenfield
> wrote:
>> I did enable it; it arrives; I tend to ignore it.
>
> Perhaps you ought to disable it?
>
You mean I ought to take control of my life? Steady on...
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In message <8d001425ead6b919cdaeed0ce55f3f6b-EhVcX1lFRQVaRwYcDTpQCEFdd
qzlvf5dqunbajbbxkngv10mqv13b0ttwzbeqkybx1tcrlfv-webmail...@server02.webmailer.ho
steurope.de>
m0n0 wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 29.03.2012, 11:55 +0200 schrieb george greenfield
> :
>
>> I
messages, for same reasons as Richard states.
I tend to ignore the digest, TBH.
George
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In message
Steve Fryatt wrote:
> On 21 Dec, John-Mark Bell wrote in message
> <1324503435.7505.50.camel@duiker>:
>
>> On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 15:18 +, george wrote:
>
>> > Im running a copy of RPCEmu originally from one of ROOLs London Show
ogies in advance if I've overlooked the 'bleedin' obvious'.
If anyone can tear themselves away from the festivities long enough to
reply I should be most grateful!
George
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In message
Christian Ludlam wrote:
> On 19 Jan 2038, at 03:14, george wrote:
>
>> The HD on my Iyo has just been changed,
[snip]
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> I had this problem intermittently - I found the cause this morning, in
> fact - It's be
In message <523097f6d3joh...@ukgateway.net>
John Williams wrote:
> In article <14fc1af392.acl...@tiscali.co.uk>,
>george wrote:
>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> Download a fresh archive and try that?
>
> John
>
>
Have now installed r131
message in the Subject line above. Reverting to
version 2.8 did not cure the problem, nor did reloading the !Boot and
!System modules from my NAS.
Any suggestions?
George
t; Please try the latest build. The problem was tracked down to an
>>> issue in UnixLib which has now been fixed.
>
>> I have tried a few tests and it hasn't failed yet, so it looks as if
>> that has fixed it.
>
>> Many thanks.
>
> Same here so far...
>
> Less non-repeatable crashes too.
>
Ditto here (using r13086).
George
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lutely. I have a 'latest build' folder and every time I update
(roughly every two-three weeks) I copy the current version into a
backup folder in case I have to revert. This has only been necessary
once in the last two years.
George
--
In message <5204d512fd...@timil.com>
Tim Hill wrote:
> In article , David Pitt
> wrote:
>> In message <0db4c80452.acl...@tiscali.co.uk> george
>>wrote:
>
>> > In message Mike
>> > Hobbs wrote:
>
&g
In message
Mike Hobbs wrote:
> Well, thats it then... Google requires javascript !!
>
Seems to work OK still under NetSurf r12638 here; I can open the
Google home page, and navigate to the sites displayed thereon, just as
before. What am I not understanding?
George
--
done and thank you!
[snip]
Seconded!
George
--
p the good work!
George
In message <51caf82f97cvj...@waitrose.com>
Chris Newman wrote:
> r12243 does seem quite a bit faster here as well on my trusty Risc PC. Well
> done the team.
>
--
I've been using r11987 since its release and would just like to say
thanks and well done to the developers for what seems (to me at least)
a very stable and (again subjective) generally speedier version. Roll
on 2.7!
George
end is now being actively maintained
>> again. :)
>
> For which, we are all very grateful to Steve Fryatt. Thanks indeed!
>
Amen to that: splendid news!
George
--
t of us if problem reports - and
confirmation of solutions - quoted the relevant NS release numbers.
Thanks.
George
--
. Cheers!
Seconded! I've been using 2.6 daily since the beginning of October and
it has performed flawlessly: many thanks from me too.
George
--
ou'll
find recent versions of Netsurf (I'm using r10640) coexist perfectly
well with it.
George
--
s Steve.
> Tried it on a couple of web pages, so far no crash out.
>
> Thanks, and well done that man.
>
> Dave
>
Tried printing out a couple of pages using r10640 under RO5.16: failed
each time with error message 'An error occurred when printing: redraw
error', with option to click Continue. The good news: the error didn't
take NetSurf down, i.e., Continue worked.
George
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In message <20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>
Rob Kendrick wrote:
> On Tue, 18 May 2010 16:35:12 +0100
> george wrote:
>
>> Since the developers have stated that NetSurf 2.5 will be the last
>> stable RISC OS release
>
> Wher
, but when? For the record, I'm running r10528 at
the moment on RO 5.16 (Iyonix), which seems to work fine.
George
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