Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-12-05 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
On 12/5/05, Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 17:17:24 -0200 > Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Agreed, I was quite annoyed when this happened to me: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# ip r s > > Object "r" is unknown, try "ip help". > > [EMAIL PROT

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-12-04 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Sun, 4 Dec 2005 17:17:24 -0200 Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/23/05, David S. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > From: Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:00:37 +0100 > > > > > So everytime I use "ip r" it will give me a warning? I h

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-12-04 Thread Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
On 11/23/05, David S. Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:00:37 +0100 > > > So everytime I use "ip r" it will give me a warning? I hope > > not, since I am used to using it this way. Ambiguousy is not > > a problem IMO, I didn't

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Antonio Dias
Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would rather reduce the surprise factor to new users, than worry > about keeping total compatibility with lazy typists. Not everyone reads > the source to know what the order is. > > Maybe just a nattering warning as a compromise. One question tha

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread David S. Miller
From: Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:00:37 +0100 > So everytime I use "ip r" it will give me a warning? I hope > not, since I am used to using it this way. Ambiguousy is not > a problem IMO, I didn't discover this behaviour by reading > the source, but still never wo

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 02:00:37AM +0100, Patrick McHardy wrote: > > So everytime I use "ip r" it will give me a warning? I hope > not, since I am used to using it this way. Ambiguousy is not > a problem IMO, I didn't discover this behaviour by reading > the source, but still never wondered why "i

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Patrick McHardy
Herbert Xu wrote: On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 03:36:22PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: I would rather reduce the surprise factor to new users, than worry about keeping total compatibility with lazy typists. Not everyone reads the source to know what the order is. Maybe just a nattering warning

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Herbert Xu
On Tue, Nov 22, 2005 at 03:36:22PM -0800, Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > I would rather reduce the surprise factor to new users, than worry > about keeping total compatibility with lazy typists. Not everyone reads > the source to know what the order is. > > Maybe just a nattering warning as a comp

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 08:10:55 +1100 Herbert Xu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 07:30:40AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > > > > What about 'ip r'? I've seen quite a few uses of that since it > > always referred to 'ip route'. > > > > I'd prefer if we can just keep the existing beh

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Herbert Xu
On Wed, Nov 23, 2005 at 07:30:40AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > > What about 'ip r'? I've seen quite a few uses of that since it > always referred to 'ip route'. > > I'd prefer if we can just keep the existing behaviour rather than > making it an error. Another reason to keep things like 'ip m' an

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Herbert Xu
Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I added them back as well as better ambiguous command matching. > i.e. ip m > is now an error. What about 'ip r'? I've seen quite a few uses of that since it always referred to 'ip route'. I'd prefer if we can just keep the existing behaviour rathe

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-22 Thread Stephen Hemminger
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 04:50:45 +0100 Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Antonio Dias wrote: > > Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>It was broken in a CVS version, not sure if it ever was released. No one > >>wants to remove it. > > > > > > Alright but... it was removed!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Antonio Dias
Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >No, the change you quoted at the beginning of this thread fixed > >shortcuts, which means instead of address you can also use > >"a", "ad", "add", and so on. Actually the ordering of this list > >also matters to keep full compatibility, I need to rechec

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Patrick McHardy
Patrick McHardy wrote: Antonio Dias wrote: Hum... to me seens like your patch will restore those lost objects but will discard shortcuts "addr", "maddr" and "neigh" and I think this will cause problems too. No, the change you quoted at the beginning of this thread fixed shortcuts, which mean

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Patrick McHardy
Antonio Dias wrote: Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Indeed, it seems quite a few commands got lost. This patch restores them. Index: ip/ip.c === RCS file: /repos/iproute2/ip/ip.c,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Antonio Dias
Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Indeed, it seems quite a few commands got lost. This patch restores > them. > Index: ip/ip.c > === > RCS file: /repos/iproute2/ip/ip.c,v > retrieving revision 1.10 > diff -u -r1.10 ip.c > -

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Patrick McHardy
Antonio Dias wrote: Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It was broken in a CVS version, not sure if it ever was released. No one wants to remove it. Alright but... it was removed! See: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ip -V ip utility, iproute2-ss051107 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ip

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Antonio Dias
Patrick McHardy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It was broken in a CVS version, not sure if it ever was released. No one > wants to remove it. Alright but... it was removed! See: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ip -V ip utility, iproute2-ss051107 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# ip -4 addre

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Antonio Dias
jamal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would agree. This is a bad idea which has actually already bitten me. Here it took me some time to figure it out why, after iproute2 upgrade and a reboot, my ethernet adapters didn't get their addresses as usual. Only after a diff between my old iproute2 packag

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Patrick McHardy
Antonio Dias wrote: Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patrick McHardy * Fix ip command shortcuts Is there a good reason to remove "ip address" command alias for "ip addr"? IMHO this is nonsense and will break scripts. Again IMHO this should be explicit listed in the changel

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread jamal
On Tue, 2005-22-11 at 00:01 -0300, Antonio Dias wrote: > Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Patrick McHardy > > * Fix ip command shortcuts > > Is there a good reason to remove "ip address" command alias for "ip > addr"? IMHO this is nonsense and will break scripts. Again IMHO

Re: [ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-21 Thread Antonio Dias
Stephen Hemminger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Patrick McHardy > * Fix ip command shortcuts Is there a good reason to remove "ip address" command alias for "ip addr"? IMHO this is nonsense and will break scripts. Again IMHO this should be explicit listed in the changelog in the place of th

[ANNOUNCE] iproute2 2.6.14-051107

2005-11-08 Thread Stephen Hemminger
Update to iproute2 is available. Most of the changes were to repair the things that broke with the introduction of the batch mode to the ip command. http://developer.osdl.org/dev/iproute2/download/iproute2-2.6.14-051107.tar.gz For info on CVS ans other info see: http://linux-net.