On Wed, 08 May 2019 14:00:11 -0700, "Scott Weeks" said:
> From: Job Snijders
>
> on this topic, i strongly recommend to operate all
> devices in the Etc/UTC timezone, this makes
> coordination with external entities much easier.
>
>
>
> Yes, this! Holy cr
On Thu, 30 May 2019 10:42:17 -0700, William Herrin said:
> Heck, most networking courses still teach class A, B and C... definitions
> which were explicitly invalidated a quarter of a century ago.
If you had asked me back in 1993 if I was going to be retired before class A/B/C
was gone from common
On Thu, 30 May 2019 16:07:53 -0700, "Scott Weeks" said:
> Having been on quite a few networks in my career,
> (eyeball/enterprise) I'd say many struggle with
> having a "single and clearly defined routing policy"
Which part do they find problematic, the "single" part, or the
"clearly defined" par
On Fri, 31 May 2019 00:10:42 -, Mel Beckman said:
> What are you talking about? Do you use multi homed BGP? If so, Iâd expect
> you
> to know that an organization with multiple sites having their own Internet
> still uses a single AS. They have IGP paths to route traffic between sites
> (e.g
On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 16:10:00 -, David Guo via NANOG said:
> Get Outlook for iOS
Does it work better on XE or XR versions?
/ducks ;)
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On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 05:38:23 -0700, Owen DeLong said:
> What I heard you say is: âIâm not going to offer a solution to your
> problem,
> but you shouldnât use the one you have that currently works because some
> things
> my friends and I are doing react poorly to it and you may suffer some
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 11:05:40 -0400, Prasun Dey said:
> Iâve seen from PeeringDB that every ISP reveals its traffic ratio as Heavy/
> Mostly Inbound or Balanced or Heavy/ Mostly Outbound.
> Iâm wondering if there is any specific ratio numbers for them
If they're an ISP that sells to end user c
On Wed, 19 Jun 2019 16:20:37 -0400, Prasun Dey said:
> So, my question was more like to understand when an ISP decides to claim
> itself as any of these (Heavy Outbound/ Inbound or Balanced)? From an ISPâs
> own
> point of view, at what point, it says, my outbound:inbound is something, so
> Iâ
On Thu, 20 Jun 2019 10:16:03 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said:
> Having an inbound:outbound ration of 10:1 is known as a leech ...
Just remember that without "leech" networks like Comcast, everybody who's
selling transit to content providers would be having a hard sell indeed.
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On Mon, 08 Jul 2019 17:58:17 -0700, Michael Thomas said:
> On 7/8/19 5:54 PM, Keith Medcalf wrote:
> > This is because DKIM was a solution to a problem that did not exist.
> >
> >
> ::eyeroll:: pray tell, how do you "always" know the identity of the MTA
> sending you a message?
It's more subtle t
On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 17:16:52 +0300, Saku Ytti said:
> In previous life working with L3 MPLS VPN with deliveries far
> exceeding on-net size we bought access from partners and had QoS
> contracts in place, which were tested and enforced and they worked
> after some ironing during field trials.
I'l
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 10:11:48 -0600, Ken Gilmour said:
> Speed is not the issue, it's IO. Also streaming 100Gbps of video is very
> different to streaming 100Gbps of files smaller than 100kb (average of
> about 30kb) the issue on the network level is the number of connections and
> CPU, on the serv
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 10:39:59 -0600, Ken Gilmour said:
> These are actual real problems we face. thousands of customers load and
> reload TBs of data every few seconds on their dashboards.
If they're reloading TBs of data every few seconds, you really should have been
doing summaries during data i
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 11:13:45 -0700, Seth Mattinen said:
> On 7/16/19 10:53 AM, Akshay Kumar via NANOG wrote:
> > Then you are "doing it wrong(tm). Good luck.
>
>
> Are you saying that anyone choosing not to use "the cloud" is simply
> wrong because "cloud" is always right?
No, he's saying that if
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 15:54:10 -0600, Ken Gilmour said:
> We have a different use case to traditional analytics - We're aimed at
> consumers and small businesses, so instead of a SOC with one big screen
> refreshing 1 rows of only alert data every 30 seconds, we have
> thousands of individuals r
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 20:36:40 -, John Curran said:
> There is no such creature as a âspecial purposeâ RIR; Regional Internet
> Registries serve the general community in a particular geographic regions as
> described by ICANN ICP-2.
OK, I'll bite then. Which RIR allocates address space to
On Tue, 30 Jul 2019 16:02:58 +0300, T�ma Gavrichenkov said:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 1:20 PM Christoffer Hansen
> wrote:
> > Imagine ARIN did a take from RIPE NCC [Policy Proposal Idea?] and a
> > policy came into effect of validating ALL 'OrgAbuseEmail' objects listed
> > in the ARIN database.
On Wed, 31 Jul 2019 16:36:08 -, Richard Williams via NANOG said:
> To contact AWS SES about spam or abuse the correct email address is
> ab...@amazonaws.com
You know that, and I know that, but why doesn't the person at AWS whose job it
is to keep the ARIN info correct and up to date know th
On Fri, 02 Aug 2019 14:54:49 -0400, Christopher Morrow said:
> 'server has no ip address' .
> $ ping www.tombin.com
> PING www.tombin.com (127.0.0.1)
>
> good try to get us all infected by malware...
Anybody who gets infected by malware from that IP address has bigger
problems
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On Sat, 03 Aug 2019 12:58:01 +0200, Mark Tinka said:
> On 3/Aug/19 03:14, Brandon Martin wrote:
> > � I've inquired with a few metro operators in my area about something
> > like this, albeit a few years ago, and I got a pretty hard "no way
> > we'd ever do that" out of them presumably for the reas
On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 06:42:30 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote:
> > A problem of dynamic sharing is that logging information to be used
> > for such purposes as crime investigation becomes huge.
>
> > -> Of course, everything has good and bad things, but with NAT444
On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 18:19:06 -, Mel Beckman said:
> I notice you didnât provide any actual data to support your position. What,
> for example, outside of copyright violations, could ISPs conceivably be liable
> for?
You get caught with nuclear weapons data, terrorism-related info, or kiddie
On Mon, 05 Aug 2019 20:40:43 -, Mel Beckman said:
> The key misunderstanding on your part is the phrase âon your serversâ.
> ISPs
> acting as conduits do not, by definition (in the DMCA), store anything on
> servers.
Note that ISPs whose business is 100% "acting as conduits" are in the mi
On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 02:27:30 -, Mel Beckman said:
> A CDN is very much an ISP. It is providing transport for its customers from
> arbitrary Internet destinations, to the customerâs content. The caching
> done by
> a CDN is incidental to this transport, in accordance with the DMCA.
Just bec
On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 06:15:36 -, Mel Beckman said:
> Not really. The customer provides the content on its own servers. The CDN
> simply redistributes the content via temporary caching. Itâs not a web
> hosting
> provider. The CDN _customer_ hosts the content.
That's an... interesting.. inte
On Tue, 06 Aug 2019 12:54:55 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said:
> I realize that the purpose of the terms "serve a demand" if legal
> globedey-glook phrased to pompously instill in the reader some feeling of the
> majesty and due regard for the process (etc), but in reality it is just
> pompous
> for "s
On Thu, 08 Aug 2019 13:31:03 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said:
> Cannot access your website. Just has a spinning colostomy bag.
I'm almost afraid to ask if that's the site itself doing javascript/CSS, or the
browser, or a browser extension, or if the Unicode guys have totally gone off
the deep end on
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 02:42:09 -, John Curran said:
> You might want want to ask them why they are now a problem when they werenât
> before (Also worth noting that many of these ISP's own contracts with their
> customers have rather similar indemnification clauses.)
Actually, it's probably AR
On Wed, 14 Aug 2019 16:07:49 -, John Curran said:
> > But I suspect a lot of companies are reading it as: "If a spammer sues you
> > for using
> > a block list that prevents them from spamming your customers, you can't end
> > up
> > owing money to the block list maintainers. But if you rel
On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 11:02:41 +0200, Robert Kisteleki said:
> Hi,
>
> On 2019-08-15 17:38, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > This looks like fun!
> > (a few questions for the RIPE folk, I think though below)
> >
> > What is the expected load of streaming clients on the RIPE service? (I
> > wonder becaus
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:44:47 +0300, T�ma Gavrichenkov said:
> Not in a typical DC/ISP environment! With the solution you propose, a
> perfect routing symmetry is a hard requirement, b/c you need to make
> sure a returning SYN/ACK hits the very same machine as the initial
> SYN.
If your load bala
On Mon, 19 Aug 2019 21:18:49 +0300, T�ma Gavrichenkov said:
> If you're doing load balancing for *outgoing* traffic — and in exactly the
> same manner as you do with incoming — then maybe.
On the other hand, your servers should probably be doing non-loadbalanced
outbound on a different IP address
On Fri, 30 Aug 2019 20:27:10 -0600, Paul Ebersman said:
> BGP when under 2k-ish and CLNP for sins in past lives...
CLNP? Now there's a name I've not heard in a long time...
(Go ahead, admit it, you read that in Alec Guiness's voice :)
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On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 18:51:16 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> Owen DeLong wrote:
> >> With the current routing practice, the number will increase to 14M
> >> with IPv4 and a lot more than that with IPv6.
> >
> > I$B!G(Bm curious as to why you think that the number is bounded at 14M fo
r
> > IPv4 and
On Sat, 31 Aug 2019 12:04:43 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> The solution is:
>
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ohta-e2e-multihoming-03
All I see there is some handwaving about separating something from
something else, without even a description of why it was better than
what was available
On Sun, 01 Sep 2019 09:04:03 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> > All I see there is some handwaving about separating something from
> > something else, without even a description of why it was better than
> > what was available when you wrote the draft.
>
> Read the first three paragraphs of abstract o
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 14:02:43 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> If you think we should blindly believe your unfounded statement
> not supported by any verifiable reference, that is the
> condescending behavior.
Well Masataka... If "Owen DeLong, who was widely known to have been in an
actual job position
On Mon, 02 Sep 2019 10:02:55 +0100, Aled Morris via NANOG said:
> The forthcoming Juniper ACX700 sounds like a good fit for metro Ethernet
> with 4x100G and 24x10G in a shallow 1U hardened form factor.
Hardened? Is this just "will survive in a not-well-cooled telco closet"
hardening,
or somethi
On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 21:20:19 +0900, Mehmet Akcin said:
> I was using another product till few days ago (i won’t mention name) i am
> not happy and decided to go with something open source
Can you mention why you're unhappy with the product? Price, a critical
feature that was lacking, something e
On Tue, 01 Oct 2019 16:24:30 -0400, Warren Kumari said:
> "More concretely, the experiment in Chrome 78 will **check if the
> user’s current DNS provider** is among a list of DoH-compatible
> providers, and upgrade to the equivalent DoH service **from the same
> provider**. If the DNS provider isn
On Wed, 02 Oct 2019 01:55:13 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said:
> It is a common fallacy that TLS connections are authenticated. The vast
> majority of them are not authenticated in any meaningful fashion and all that
> can be said about TLS is that it provides an encrypted connection between the
> two
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 20:11:23 +0100, Alan Buxey said:
> trivial-ish (these days) - you have so much choice...and eventually
> decent routers doing SLAAC will finally be able to serve
> other details such as DNS/time/etc via SLAAC - servers? give them
Well... if you want that...
> that gets me on
On Thu, 03 Oct 2019 15:28:30 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said:
> On Thursday, 3 October, 2019 11:50, Fred Baker
> wrote:
> > A security geek would be all over me - "too many clues!".
> Anyone who says something like that is not a "security geek". They are a
> "security poser", interested primarily i
On Fri, 04 Oct 2019 08:20:22 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> As for requirements for IPv6 routers, how do you think about the
> following requirement by rfc4443?
3 Internet Control Message Protocol (ICMPv6) for the Internet Protocol
Version 6 (IPv6) Specification. A. Conta, S. Deering, M. G
On Sat, 05 Oct 2019 07:01:58 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> One of a stupidity, among many, of IPv6 is that it assumes
> links have millions or billions of mostly immobile hosts
Can somebody hand me a match? There's a straw man argument
that needs to be set afire here.
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On Sun, 06 Oct 2019 17:47:24 -0400, b...@theworld.com said:
> All a strictly IPv4 only host/router would need to understand in that
> case is the IHL, which it does already, and how to interpret whatever
> flag/option is used to indicate the presence of additional address
> bits mostly to ignore i
On Mon, 07 Oct 2019 03:03:45 -0400, Rob McEwen said:
> Likewise for spam filtering - spam filtering would be knocked back to
> the stone ages if IPv4 disappeared overnight. IPv6 is a spam sender's
> dream come true, since IPv6 DNSBLs are practically worthless.
Riddle me this: Why then have spamme
On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 11:53:33 -0600, "Keith Medcalf" said:
> So while the cost of doing the thing may be near-zero, it is not zero.
And in fact, there's more than just the costs of doing it. There's also the
costs
of having done it.
Obfuscating your OpenSSH versions is a *really* good way to mak
On Tue, 08 Oct 2019 19:12:30 -, Nicholas Warren said:
> Sweet deals, would you kindly share your vendor?
Well, I just type "128G DIMM" into google, and the very first hit tells me that
I can
get a 128G DIMM for $1,398, that and 8 DiMM slots gets me to 1T just over $11K.
If I have 16 DIMM sl
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 18:51:12 +0900, Masataka Ohta said:
> Owen DeLong wrote:
> > Yes, thanks for yet another condescending comment proving that
> > you completely missed the point of my post. It's always a pleasure.
> You should really feel indebted to me because it's not a pleasure
> for me to a
On Wed, 09 Oct 2019 17:43:00 -0400, b...@theworld.com said:
> URLs are an obvious candidate to consider because they're in use, seem
> to basically work to identify routing endpoints, and are far from a
> random, out of thin air, choice.
So explain in detail how a router gets from "URL" to "which
On Fri, 11 Oct 2019 12:02:30 +0200, Warren Kumari said:
> I haven't found the actual work that is being referenced here, and I
> *am* quite skeptical based upon the title / premise -- but, I suspect
> (well, hope) that this is just another instance of complex technical
> material being munged by m
On Wed, 16 Oct 2019 12:50:17 -, Ryland Kremeier said:
> >I believe we have found 1 customer that is infected with a botnet or malware.
> I've dealt with plenty of botnets working as a repair technician in the past
> but never had one change the public IP address of the user. Not entirely sure
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 09:09:05 -0600, Grant Taylor via NANOG said:
> > Easing the operation of CGN at scale serves no purpose except stalling
> > necessary change. It is like installing an electric blanket to cure the
> > chill from bed-wetting.
>
> Much like humans can move passenter plains, even an
On Sat, 02 Nov 2019 14:49:58 -0400, Christopher Morrow said:
> I think the disconnect idea is actually a good one... I don't know
> that I want to DO IT, but :) it certainly seems like a reasonable
> disaster recovery planning exercise :) (likely doing it is the only
> way to really suss out the pr
On Fri, 08 Nov 2019 11:23:17 -0800, Jared Geiger said:
> What likely happened is that messages were queued on host to go out, SMPP
> binds go down, queue fills up, host crashes. Then someone realizes the host
> is down and brings it back up and the queue empties when the load is low.
What I've se
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019 14:58:34 -0500, "Brian J. Murrell" said:
> I guess the question is, will Disney content compel users who are not
> already streaming to start streaming?
I can foresee a lot of families subscribing to Netflix *and* Disney+
because neither one has all the content the family want
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 13:39:56 -0500, Tom Beecher said:
> They are essentially equating 'business' with 'VPN provider'.
Not at all surprised.
Many moons ago, I had a Tor *relay* running on one machine in my home network,
and Hulu decided that my connections from a *different* home machine were
"VP
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 06:46:52 +1100, Mark Andrews said:
> > On 26 Nov 2019, at 03:53, Dmitry Sherman wrote:
> >
> >  I believe itâs Eyeball networkâs matter to free IPv4 blocks and
> > move to v6.
> It requires both sides to move to IPv6. Why should the cost of maintaining
> working netwo
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 13:29:21 -0500, harbor235 said:
> I am with you on the easy google fu, however, weeding through the
> challenges and a real implementation I was hoping to leverage some
> lessons learned and best practices.
Well, it's going to depend a *lot* on why exactly you're doing the rep
On Fri, 29 Nov 2019 23:26:04 -0500, Brandon Martin said:
> definitely the lagging factor, here. I suspect it's at least partially
> because high-ratio NAT44 has been the norm for enterprise deployments
> for some time, and, among those who might otherwise be willing to
> support first-class dual
On Sat, 30 Nov 2019 13:47:36 -0800, Matthew Kaufman said:
> User apps prefer IPv6, Netflix stops, users complain
And fallback to IPv4 fails to happen, why, exactly?
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On Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:04:24 -0800, Fred Baker said:
> > I believe that Dmitry's point is that we will still require IPv4 addresses
> > for new
> > organizations deploying dual-stack
>
> I think I understood what you meant, but not what you said.
> If someone is dual stack, they are IPv6-capable
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:12:27 +1100, Mark Andrews said:
> Email is often out sourced so you donât need your own IPv4 addresses for
> that.
> Then there is in the cloud for other services, again you donât need your
> own IPv4
> addresses.
Are you seriously trying to say "If you're a new compa
On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 07:47:25 +1100, Mark Andrews said:
> Why not use someone elseâs IPv4 addresses? Really. What is wrong with
> using
> someone elseâs IPv4 addresses if it achieves the need? As far as I can tell
> nothing.
Other than the fact that a /24 is being advertised out of one AS
On Tue, 03 Dec 2019 14:58:59 -0800, FREDERICK BAKER said:
> I think he is saying that companies like Reliance JIO have started with a /22
> of IPv4 and a /32 (or more) of IPv6,
As I said - you need IPv4 space to dual-stack. How does Reliance do this
without any v4 address space?
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On Wed, 04 Dec 2019 17:56:10 +, Rod Beck said:
> Can someone explain what is all the fuss? SDN is like the latest telecom
> craze but the articles do a poor job of explaining the advantages. I seek
> concrete examples.
It's called the "cycle of reincarnation".
Way back when, a "router" was a
On Thu, 05 Dec 2019 14:41:30 -0600, "Aaron Gould" said:
> Tarko. wow, gaming again ! It's not going away. gaming traffic is growing
> in a big way it seems.
And it's only going to get worse. Sony has already announced that the
Playstation 5 will have a (probably) 1-2 terabyte SSD. And even wit
On Thu, 05 Dec 2019 14:18:07 -0800, Michael Thomas said:
> My suspicion is that the root problem was buffer bloat -- i flashed a
> new router with openwrt and was a little dismayed that the bufferbloat
> code is a plugin you have to enable. The buffer bloat got a lot better
Friends don't let frie
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 19:26:09 +0200, Saku Ytti said:
> On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 19:14, Rob Foehl wrote:
>
> > Support claims that it was a mistake, but it's also been 15+ months and
> > it's pretty deliberate behavior. Draw your own conclusions...
>
> TTL decrement issues are fairly common across mu
On Thu, 12 Dec 2019 18:47:29 -0800, Large Hadron Collider said:
> Tcl still exists, though I don't think they use it for this anymore.
At least on Fedora, expect 5.45.4 is linked against libtcl8.6.so.
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On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 13:59:00 -0800, Jeff Shultz said:
> I've occasionally thought that a tactical air strike on a couple of
> call centers might just convince the others of the errors of their
> ways.
Having a US-owned A10 strafe a Philippines-based call center is probably a bad
idea diplomatical
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 16:02:42 -0700, "Keith Medcalf" said:
> That stupid people do stupid things has no bearing on me. If there is a
> legal requirement for these people to be "notifying" then they are required to
> notify.
> I do not want to receive robocalls period. End of Line. No Exception.
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 00:14:33 -0800, Large Hadron Collider said:
> Is it legally a spoofed robo-call if I robo-call someone who has
> consented to be robo-called, with the caller-ID of a number that is
> affiliated with me but not with the telco I'm calling from?
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