Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Mehmet
Hello - i am looking for small ISP owners, Rural ISPs in FL, TX, NY, VA, CA (but anywhere in the world is fine). If anyone lurking on the list please contact me offlist Mehmet +1-424-298-1903

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Tom Beecher
> > many wisps use preseem, bequant, paraqum, or libreqos.io (me). This > solves the gaming latency problem thoroughly (imho). fq_codel on > mikrotik, smart queues (ubnt), also. It really depends, because the 'gaming latency problem' isn't a static thing. Some games are traditional client-server

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Aaron Atac via NANOG
Tom hit the nail on the head of my points, a lot of multiplayer video games are hosted on a server in a hyper scaler, AWS for example, or players can make their own PCs/Consoles the game server as well. Lobbies are formed, goal is get 20 people into the lobby with minimal rtt to game server and

Re: 2 undersea cables cut

2024-11-22 Thread Ryan Bagley via NANOG
Below article outlines cases of sabotage (page 81) in 2007 in Bangladesh, 2010 in the Philippines, and attempted sabotage in 2013 in Egypt. I'm not sure Nord Stream qualifies since the cable itself wasn't directly targeted. Arguing about if it was sabotage or not isn't really helpful until authorit

Re: 2 undersea cables cut

2024-11-22 Thread Mark Tinka
On 11/22/24 17:06, Sean Donelan wrote: On average about 200 submarine cable damage incidents every year Essentially all submarine cable damage is accidental not sabotage.  The few cases of intentional attacks is so rare, that folks in the industry know them as part of the stories passed d

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 7:55 AM Aaron Atac via NANOG wrote: > > I can tell you this was the problem Subspace was trying to resolve, but then > went out of business. many wisps use preseem, bequant, paraqum, or libreqos.io (me). This solves the gaming latency problem thoroughly (imho). fq_codel

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Dermot Williams
Steam’s CDN uses HTTP to distribute downloads(1), so you could route Steam-related HTTP traffic through a caching proxy if you wanted to relieve your transit/peering links. That does nothing for the parts of the network that are actually under bandwidth pressure though (i.e. the last mile or, i

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Mehmet
Are there a lot of gamers in rural areas? Do the rural ISPs have challenges with reaching gaming servers. I do not know if gaming or caching or both a challenge for rural isps due to being distant from population centers and possibly caches Mehmet On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 08:32 Josh Luthman wrot

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Rural has nothing to do with it. It's 100% about the network and internet service delivery. We are a small rural ISP doing gigabit fiber and I personally live in a city with a coax/fiber/FWA options. Gaming works just fine on any of them. I don't believe there are any cache boxes for games, I h

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Brandon Butterworth
On 22/11/2024 13:33:46, "Mehmet" wrote: Are there a lot of gamers in rural areas? Do the rural ISPs have challenges with reaching gaming servers. No more than any other network anywhere. We provide 1Gb/s symmetrical (only, slower is pointless market rationing) in rural Scotland. It might even

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Josh Luthman
Might want to say why. On Fri, Nov 22, 2024 at 6:50 AM Mehmet wrote: > Hello - i am looking for small ISP owners, Rural ISPs in FL, TX, NY, VA, > CA (but anywhere in the world is fine). > > If anyone lurking on the list please contact me offlist > > Mehmet > +1-424-298-1903 >

Re: 2 undersea cables cut

2024-11-22 Thread Sean Donelan
On average about 200 submarine cable damage incidents every yearEssentially all submarine cable damage is accidental not sabotage.  The few cases of intentional attacks is so rare, that folks in the industry know them as part of the stories passed down.Easy to accuse but takes months to do the fore

Re: Small / Rural ISP owners

2024-11-22 Thread Aaron Atac via NANOG
I can tell you this was the  problem Subspace was trying to resolve, but then went out of business. Specifically, Subspace wasn’t focused on caching video game updates and distributing those better, but rather building a network for clients to access game servers with lower rtt for a more optim

Weekly Global IPv4 Routing Table Report

2024-11-22 Thread Routing Table Analysis Role Account
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