2 undersea cables cut

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/18/europe/undersea-cable-disrupted-germany-finland-intl/index.html -Hank

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:42 PM John Sweeting wrote: > "It is great to see so much interest and discussion about the ICP-2 review. > Please be aware that the ASO AC will only be processing the feedback received > through the questionnaire - > https://ripe-ncc.typeform.com/icp-2?typeform-sourc

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024, 22:50 Owen DeLong, wrote: > The RIRs each have a geographic monopoly and at their creation, this is > required by ICP-2 (the original). This has nothing to do with where you > land on any of your subsequent questions. > Are the European Union or African Union, geographic mon

Re: Technical contact for Verizon (not Fios) before we unplug a service router

Having worked at Verizon, I can tell you in my experience this is the ONLY expeditious way to resolve the issue. The “correct” process drags on forever as the request (once it’s even properly received), bounces between departments before it even reaches someone who can begin to take action.Turning

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

Everyone, "It is great to see so much interest and discussion about the ICP-2 review. Please be aware that the ASO AC will only be processing the feedback received through the questionnaire - https://ripe-ncc.typeform.com/icp-2?typeform-source=www.arin.net. Be sure to share your feedback thr

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Tue, 19 Nov 2024, 22:44 Owen DeLong, wrote: > > > On Nov 18, 2024, at 13:11, Noah wrote: > >  > > > On Mon, 18 Nov 2024, 22:33 heasley, wrote: > >> Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 12:48:04PM -0800, William Herrin: >> > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 12:39 PM Noah wrote: >> > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024, 22:06 Dav

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Wed, 20 Nov 2024, 00:16 William Herrin, wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:36 PM Noah wrote: > > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024, 22:44 Owen DeLong, wrote: > >> They really aren’t. Contrary to the theories you keep pushing, they are > >> businesses. They are not state agencies or quasi state agencies.

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Nov 18, 2024, at 12:35, Tom Beecher wrote:Bill-To the extent that the ICP offers ICANN authority over the numbersystem, ICANN must do the same. ICANN cannot have final authority overthe establishment of new RIRs should it come to operate in ajurisdiction whose governance would restrict recogni

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:59 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > What is, in your opinion, the perfect scenario by which the functions of the > RIRs today could be structured? The 'if I could greenfield this today' idea? Hi Tom, They'd look more or less like they do today. Rough spots aside, four of the

RE: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

Hi David, I envy you and Bill your threaded mail readers. Clearly other models exist for establishing uniqueness than treaty organizations, since that is the status quo. Your assertion is that competitive RIRs would therefore be able to provide less bureaucracy and lower cost than current RIR

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 09:56:27AM -0800, William Herrin: > previously mentioned, there exist things like RIPE RIS and ARIN > community grants which are not registry services and should really not > be geographically limited. IMO, no RIR should be involved in issuing grants. Their function is to pro

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Nov 18, 2024, at 13:11, Noah wrote:On Mon, 18 Nov 2024, 22:33 heasley, wrote:Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 12:48:04PM -0800, William Herrin: > On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 12:39 PM Noah wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Nov 2024, 22:06 David Conrad via NANOG, wrot

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

The RIRs each have a geographic monopoly and at their creation, this is required by ICP-2 (the original). This has nothing to do with where you land on any of your subsequent questions. The NRO cartel has agreed to specific territories served by each RIR, granting each a geographic monopoly. Becaus

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 12:36 PM Noah wrote: > On Tue, 19 Nov 2024, 22:44 Owen DeLong, wrote: >> They really aren’t. Contrary to the theories you keep pushing, they are >> businesses. They are not state agencies or quasi state agencies. >> They are not granted enforcement powers or any extraordin

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

Bill- Thanks. It sounds to me then that you don't really have much of an issue with the RIR system generally then, but your concerns are more centered on one specific RIR. On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 3:21 PM William Herrin wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:59 AM Tom Beecher wrote: > > What is,

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 9:39 AM Howard, Lee via NANOG wrote: > I am aware of a couple of companies that would like to compete > with the RIRs. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. So far they > have been unable to convince me that they have the > communities' best interests at heart. Hi Lee, Me

Re: Anyone know Hispasec Sistemas ?

On 18/11/24 22:14, John Levine wrote: They are a security company in Spain who I gather have some relation to Virus Total. Unfortunately, someone there believes that abuse.net is the Network Police, and is sending it urgent messages to take down naughty domains. In reality, abuse.net is just m

AS35361 Contact

Good day, If there is anyone out there from AS35361 that could help me with a routing issue between 45.59.96.0/22 and AS36351 via Torix please contact me off list. Thank you, Richard [cid:2b592541-7b68-4ffd-a2d6-75608244a346]

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

Hi Bill, On Sat, 16 Nov 2024 at 22:01, William Herrin wrote: [...] > 2. I'm not convinced that the service regions should be limited by the > ICP to non-overlapping geographic territories. Although I generally > favor geographic restriction as a matter of practice, perhaps it would > be better

Re: Technical contact for Verizon (not Fios) before we unplug a service router

That tracks with my experience as well with both Verizon and AT&T. Both had old cabinets in facilities at dayjobs. Calling our account reps and calling the numbers listed on/in the cabinets went nowhere. Powering the cabinets off did :) Thank you jms On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 7:30 PM Mel Beckman

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

> > Good, bad or indifferent, the RIRs are a cartel of geographic > monopolies. As we talk about what they should be tomorrow, it's > helpful to understand what they are today. What is, in your opinion, the perfect scenario by which the functions of the RIRs today could be structured? The 'if I

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

> > How much cost could realistically be driven out, and still have a secure, > reliable database and an open policy development process? > > I am aware of a couple of companies that would like to compete with the > RIRs. Maybe that's what you're thinking of. So far they have been unable to > convi