Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-26 Thread Randy Bush
john > To what extent is the ROA growth rate in the RIPE region (on page 5 of > the NANOG slides) enabled by the IRR practices of that region? check out slide 3, lacnic has a 20% adoption rate. both ripe and lacnic have put energy into their own systems, educating users, ... ripe's curve would

Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-26 Thread John Curran
On Oct 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > > 20% coverage in lacnic low? how do ipv6 and dnssec compare (which is > damned sad)? over 2,000 in ripe and over 8%? how does that compare to > ipv6? > > arin, 388 and 0.7%, a joke. LACNIC numbers (as a percent) are quite good, but my quest

Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-26 Thread Dmitry Burkov
it's just a consequence that our initial idea was just about to protect allocations of our members - not about secure routing at all On 26 Oct 2014, at 14:40, John Curran wrote: > On Oct 26, 2014, at 6:46 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> >> 20% coverage in lacnic low? how do ipv6 and dnssec compare

Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-26 Thread Dmitry Burkov
John - it is not about RPK I - our initial goal was to deploy some kind of certification to resources allocated to our members Dmitry If we use for it some SIDR developments - may be - it is a mistake or misentrepration - but what's true that we never thougy On 26 Oct 2014, at 14:40, John Curr

Re: pay.gov and IPv6

2014-10-26 Thread Todd Lyons
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: >> >> Random IPv6 complaint of the day: redirects from FCC.gov to pay.gov fail >> when clients have IPv6 enabled. Work fine if IPv6 is off. One more set of > Still broken, 7 months later. And again, I was too busy trying to pay to try > to p

Re: 4.2.2.2 4.2.2.21 High Packet Loss

2014-10-26 Thread Paige Thompson
On 10/25/14 02:03, Rafael Possamai wrote: > Those addresses are anycasted, so you would have to do a bit of research > and figure out what part of their network is having any packet loss. > > Here is an alternative: http://www.opennicproject.org/ > > > > On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Emir Sosa

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT]

2014-10-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 25 Oct 2014 17:56:52 -0500, Jimmy Hess said: > The next thing you know, SystemD will add package management, ISO > building, and eliminate the need for Debian, Ubuntu, SuSE, Redhat, > Etc to even exist. That's already on Lennart's to-do list, you know. pgpsrz4mwPqsz.pgp Description:

Re: pay.gov and IPv6

2014-10-26 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Todd Lyons writes: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Matthew Kaufman wrote: > >> > >> Random IPv6 complaint of the day: redirects from FCC.gov to pay.gov fail > >> when clients have IPv6 enabled. Work fine if IPv6 is off. One more set of > > Still broken, 7 months later. And again

Re: pay.gov and IPv6

2014-10-26 Thread Brian Henson
Have you tried emailing the server admin at pay.gov.c...@clev.frb.org? On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message vl3...@mail.gmail.com> > , Todd Lyons writes: > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Matthew Kaufman > wrote: > > >> > > >> Random IPv6 complaint of the day

Re: pay.gov and IPv6

2014-10-26 Thread Matthew Kaufman
This is why I need to pull logs the next time I need to pay the FCC. There are several rounds of redirects involved from clicking the payment button on the FCC site to the final landing at pay.gov, and one of the last steps never connects if IPv6 is enabled. Matthew Kaufman (Sent from my iPhon

Re: A translation (was Re: An update from the ICANN ISPCP meeting...)

2014-10-26 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
David wrote: Indeed, and I must commend Warren and Eric for caring enough to actually engage in this stuff. While many people in the NANOG/IETF/DNS Operations communities complain about the latest abomination ICANN is inflicting upon the world, there aren't a whole lot of folks from those comm

Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-26 Thread Randy Bush
> LACNIC numbers (as a percent) are quite good, but my question > was why only RIPE has the very impressive total count of ROAs. < conjecture follows > of course one can never know. but i conject o the are the largest registry actively promotin registration o the ncc, particularly alex, tim

Re: A translation (was Re: An update from the ICANN ISPCP meeting...)

2014-10-26 Thread Barry Shein
I think one missing or weak component are those who actually make this stuff work vs the pie-in-the-sky infringer/volume/policy crowd. I've sat in IPC meetings and suffice it to say there isn't much clue on that front and why should there be unless the go-fast/go-always crowd shows up? Sure it d