Re: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

2013-10-24 Thread Brandon Ross
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:40 PM, JRC NOC wrote: Have we/they lost something important in the changeover to converged mutiprotocol networks? Is there a better way for us edge networks to achieve IP resiliency in the current environment? sadly I

Re: 80 Gbps ?

2013-10-24 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:00 PM, jstuxuhu0816 wrote: > Basically, what you can do for the ISP network to pretect the DDOS attacks: --- Roland Dobbins //

Re: Fundamental questions of backbone design

2013-10-24 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hi Valdis Checkout routing table at NIXI and you will get idea what I am referring to w.r.t. prepended routes. http://www.nixi.in/lookingglass.php Thanks! On Sat, Oct 19, 2013 at 3:16 AM, wrote: > On Fri, 18 Oct 2013 23:33:16 +0530, Anurag Bhatia said: > > >localpref to customer route

Re: Fundamental questions of backbone design

2013-10-24 Thread Anurag Bhatia
Hi Matthew Very cool! That is exactly I was looking for. I was uncomfortable in using 10+ prepend routes while ofcourse interested in tweaking localpref as everyone done based on peers & their status (transit/downstream/peering) etc. Thanks. On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 1:13 AM, Matthew Petac

RE: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

2013-10-24 Thread Sam Roche
We had a similar issue happen and modified our BGP peering to use one BGP session per provider, as we had multiple neighbours for one of our peers. It seems to have resolved this particular issue for us. I would love to hear how others are actively probing their peers networks using an NMS to

Re: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

2013-10-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Brandon Ross wrote: > On Wed, 23 Oct 2013, Christopher Morrow wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:40 PM, JRC NOC >> wrote: >> >>> Have we/they lost something important in the changeover to converged >>> mutiprotocol networks? >>> Is there a better way for us ed

RE: Point to Point Ethernet request

2013-10-24 Thread Tony Patti
Hi Tom, Yes Comcast has SLA for their Enterprise Services, see page 5 (Schedule A-2) of http://business.comcast.com/docs/ent-terms-and-conditions/Product-Specific-A ttachment-Ethernet-Dedicated-Internet-120412-PUBLISHED-v3.pdf?sfvrsn=0 Tony Patti CIO S. Walter Packaging Corp. -Original Mess

Re: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

2013-10-24 Thread Brandon Ross
On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Christopher Morrow wrote: Um, how about, don't buy services from network providers that fail in this way? I suppose the question is: "how would you know that any particular network had this failure mode?" Ask detailed questions about how their network is architected. Do

Looking for Juniper P-1GE-SFP-QPP in NYC area

2013-10-24 Thread Eric Wieling
We had a P-1GE-SFP-QPP card go out today, looking for a source in the NYC area to get it replaced ASAP. Thanks!

Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Job Snijders
Dear all, I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using RANCID. Some might say "it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we want!", but not all software ages well. One might work in environments whe

EFF needs your help to stop patent trolls

2013-10-24 Thread Peter Eckersley
Hi network operators, Apologies for a non-technical post, but I believe this is an issue of relevance to the NANOG community. EFF is collecting signatures from prominent engineers and technologists for a letter to the US Congress calling for reform of the software patent system to protect invento

Re: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

2013-10-24 Thread Courtney Smith
On Oct 24, 2013, at 2:13 AM, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote: > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 22:40:34 -0400 > From: JRC NOC > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: BGP failure analysis and recommendations > Message-ID: > <5.1.0.14.0.20131023214304.0396e...@authsmtp.jensenresearch.com> > Cont

RE: Cogent 100M DIA in Denver

2013-10-24 Thread Eric C. Miller
I'm in the middle of converting IPV4 to dualstack with Cogent. I was told that they don't have IPV6 in the edge in Tampa yet, so they are VLANing us to a core device to give us v6. So by dualstack, they must mean dualstack only from an OSI Layer 1 approach. Heartburn city. Robert, do you ha

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Erik Muller
On 10/24/13 17:25 , Job Snijders wrote: Some might say "it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we want!", but not all software ages well. One might work in environments where archived configurations are needed to even start provisioning, one might desire a separation between actual config an

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Tammy Firefly
Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen it on 7200/7500 routers multiple times Tammy Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:05, Erik Muller wrote: > On 10/24/13 17:25 , Job Snijders wrote: >> Some might say "it took ages to get rancid to do kinda what we wan

Re: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

2013-10-24 Thread Scott Weeks
--- courtneysm...@comcast.net wrote: From: Courtney Smith > From: JRC NOC > Regrettably, during the outage our BGP session remained active and we > continued receiving full routes from the affected AS. And our prefixes > continued to be advertised at their border. However basically none of

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 25/10/2013 11:19, Tammy Firefly wrote: > Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen > it on 7200/7500 routers multiple times this isn't a rancid problem though. Nick

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:19 PM, Tammy Firefly wrote: > Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen it > on 7200/7500 routers multiple times > I don't doubt it, but since RANCID only uses show commands; I would suspect that any similar tool that uses similar show co

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders < job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com> wrote: > Dear all, > I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure > we've done our fair share of atonement and don't have to keep using > RANCID. > Does the nature of the codebase and futu

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Tammy Firefly
Yes I 100% agree its a IOS bug. It had something to do with the way it ended a ssh session. That was one reason we got rid of cisco at our edges and use juniper which has config backup built into JunOS (via ssh/FTP) --Tammy Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:29, Jimmy Hess wrote: >

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Tammy Firefly
No it's not rancids fault :) Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:25, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 25/10/2013 11:19, Tammy Firefly wrote: >> Rancid is known to crash cisco devices doing config backups. I've seen >> it on 7200/7500 routers multiple times > > this isn't a rancid problem thou

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Kenneth McRae
Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software? On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, "Jimmy Hess" wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders < > job.snijd...@hibernianetworks.com> wrote: > > > Dear all, > > I am unsure what we as networkers have done in the past, but I am sure > > we've done our fair

RE: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Nolan Rollo
Puppet, Chef, cfEngine, etc... the list goes on and on, it's a matter of taste (no chef pun intended) and what you're familiar with as well as what works for your device configurations and the management team -Original Message- From: Kenneth McRae [mailto:kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com] Se

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Tammy Firefly
Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ? Sent from my iPhone On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:45, Kenneth McRae wrote: > Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software? > On Oct 24, 2013 8:38 PM, "Jimmy Hess" wrote: > >> On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Job Snijders < >> job.snijd...@hibe

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Kenneth McRae
By device or you can purchase an unlimited device count.. On Oct 24, 2013 8:59 PM, "Tammy Firefly" wrote: > Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ? > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Oct 24, 2013, at 21:45, Kenneth McRae > wrote: > > > Hiw about SolarWinds Config Mgmt software?

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Jon Lewis
Or use perfectly good (RANCID + cvsweb) free software. Hmm. On Thu, 24 Oct 2013, Kenneth McRae wrote: By device or you can purchase an unlimited device count.. On Oct 24, 2013 8:59 PM, "Tammy Firefly" wrote: Is that licensed per device or per user out of curiosity ? Sent from my iPhone O

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Christopher Rogers
Rancid is great, we use it. It's hard to justify paying money for something that really isn't that complicated, especially stupid licensing fees. One of my problems with rancid though is that many of the commands it runs can be somewhat intrusive, and also smacks of trying to use a configuration

Re: Network configuration archiving

2013-10-24 Thread Eric A Louie
I know you said open source, but we're using Solarwinds Cattools with very good results.  We also have Rancid running in the background. > > From: Job Snijders >To: nanog@nanog.org >Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:25 PM >Subject: Network configuration arch