We had a similar issue happen and modified our BGP peering to use one BGP 
session per provider, as we had multiple neighbours for one of our peers. 

It seems to have resolved this particular issue for us.

I would love to hear how others are actively probing their peers networks using 
an NMS to verify connectivity.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Christopher Morrow [mailto:morrowc.li...@gmail.com] 
Sent: October-23-13 11:06 PM
To: JRC NOC
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: BGP failure analysis and recommendations

On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 10:40 PM, JRC NOC <nospam-na...@jensenresearch.com> 
wrote:
> Is this just an unavoidable issue with scaling large networks?

nope... sounds like (to me at least) the forwarding plane and control plane are 
non-congruent in your provider's network :( so as you said, if the 
forwarding-plane is dorked up between you and 'the rest of their netowrk', but 
the edge device you are connected to thinks next-hops for routes are still 
valid... oops :(

> Is it perhaps a known side effect of MPLS?

nope.

> Have we/they lost something important in the changeover to converged 
> mutiprotocol networks?
> Is there a better way for us edge networks to achieve IP resiliency in 
> the current environment?

sadly I bet not, aside from active probing and disabling paths that are 
non-functional.


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