On Jul 25, 2013, at 6:20 PM, "Scott Weeks" wrote:
> I'd be interested in knowing who it is, so I can be sure to
> never buy from them.
This is the way to go. Spammers and telemarketers don't do what they do for fun
or malice, they do so because it's profitable. If people would stop buying fro
BGPMon.net has alerted me to /32 hijacks. Does anyone have thoughts on
what this might be and if it's malicious or misconfiguration?
Date OriginAS Prefix Type ASPath
2013.07.24 25459 72.52.11.117/32 A 286 25459 25459 25459
2013.07.24 25459 72.52.11
On 26-07-13 14:59, NetSecGuy wrote:
> BGPMon.net has alerted me to /32 hijacks. Does anyone have thoughts on
> what this might be and if it's malicious or misconfiguration?
> My first thought is leaked null routes.Is this even worth alerting on?
We had similar cases. In most cases they appear
On Jul 26, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote:
> On 26-07-13 14:59, NetSecGuy wrote:
>> BGPMon.net has alerted me to /32 hijacks. Does anyone have thoughts on
>> what this might be and if it's malicious or misconfiguration?
>> My first thought is leaked null routes.Is this even worth
What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a nslookup on a
website, and then whois on the ip, who is calling to say his porn site
is partially not working and he's pissed.
imho. The days of having public records like whois/rwhois available has
passed. The data use to be protected w
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Pavely [mailto:para...@nac.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:33 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
> Even the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abuse
contact', and end up spamming all whois org contacts. What's the p
On Jul 25, 2013, at 19:29 , "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." wrote:
> From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com]
>> Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of maintaining the whois?
>
> Yep!
>
>> We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think it's
> something that people a
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 09:42:11 -0500, "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." said:
> > Even the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abuse
> contact', and end up spamming all whois org contacts. What's the point
> in that?
>
> I agree. Most of them end up blasting all contacts which is completely
>
On Jul 26, 2013, at 09:32 , Ryan Pavely wrote:
> What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a nslookup on a website,
> and then whois on the ip, who is calling to say his porn site is partially
> not working and he's pissed.
>
> imho. The days of having public records like whois/rwh
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, "Patrick W. Gilmore" wrote:
> You can change anything you want. ARIN & ICANN are both member organizations.
> Propose a change, get the votes, and POOF!, things are changed.
Err. ICANN isn't a membership organization. It is possible to change things at
ICANN, but th
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2013, at 09:32 , Ryan Pavely wrote:
>
>>
>> I doubt that will ever happen. So it's time for me to update my arin
>> contact as this past weekend I got exactly that 2am porn call and it was
>> quite disturbing which website
>What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a
>nslookup on a website, and then whois on the ip,
>who is calling to say his porn site
>is partially not working and he's pissed.
No amount of changing contacts is going to solve this type of problem.
We routinely get support calls, sometim
On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:05 , David Conrad wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, "Patrick W. Gilmore" wrote:
>> You can change anything you want. ARIN & ICANN are both member
>> organizations. Propose a change, get the votes, and POOF!, things are
>> changed.
>
> Err. ICANN isn't a membership o
-Original Message-
From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:47 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
On Jul 25, 2013, at 19:29 , "Otis L. Surratt, Jr."
wrote:
> From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com]
>>
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:59:37 -0500, "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." said:
> What happen to the days when you could simply tell someone not
> interested, don't call again and you wouldn't hear from them ever
> again?
It's not just networking - recently I received a cold call from
a local company trying
On 7/26/13 8:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:05 , David Conrad wrote:
>> > On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, "Patrick W. Gilmore"
>> > wrote:
>>> >> You can change anything you want. ARIN & ICANN are both member
>>> >> organizations. Propose a change, get the votes, and POO
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Justin Vocke wrote:
> 512-377-6827 was one of the numbers trying to get more information about
> my
> network and how they could "help" me.
>
Which appears to be http://www.siptrunksproviders.com/
Which in turns appears to be the same company as http://giglinx.co
My opinion: it's the rebuttal.
Sales has come lightyears in the last 20 years, advertising is a direct
reflection of that. If you visit a travel website, suddenly every website you
visit for the next 2 weeks is how to buy what you didn't the first time.
Case in point.. And I'm going to name d
On 7/26/13 11:59 AM, "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." wrote:
>What happen to the days when you could simply tell someone not
>interested, don't call again and you wouldn't hear from them ever
>again?
>Or the days when everything wasn't treated as spam
When the former days disappeared, the latter
> Case in point.. And I'm going to name drop, but do not consider this a shame.
> I have been looking at various filtering technologies, and was looking at
> Barracudas site. I went on with my day, but noticed that filtering vendors
> start showing up on random websites. Fast forward 24 hours later
You are not crazy.
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Original message
From: Alex Rubenstein
Date: 07/26/2013 9:53 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: Warren Bailey ,"Otis L. Surratt,
Jr." ,"Patrick W. Gilmore" ,NANOG list
Subject: RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads
> Case in point.. And I'm going to nam
> What happen to the days when you could simply tell someone not
> interested, don't call again and you wouldn't hear from them ever
> again?
I don't know, but that is part of the reason why you can't ignore these people
or buy from them.
Ever heard of the "one bite at the apple" idea? Marke
On 7/26/13 9:54 AM, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
Case in point.. And I'm going to name drop, but do not consider this a shame.
I have been looking at various filtering technologies, and was looking at
Barracudas site. I went on with my day, but noticed that filtering vendors
start showing up on random
On Jul 26, 2013, at 12:54 , Alex Rubenstein wrote:
>> Case in point.. And I'm going to name drop, but do not consider this a shame.
>> I have been looking at various filtering technologies, and was looking at
>> Barracudas site. I went on with my day, but noticed that filtering vendors
>> start s
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:54:21 -0400, Alex Rubenstein said:
> The LED billboards on the side of the road displaying targeted
> advertisements, based on your proximity to them, because your android phone is
> telling the sign where you are.
There's 6 other drivers within range. What set of targeted
Blink twice? Is this 1996?
I expect it to read my face like animals do. I simply do not care if it results
in me riding in the Virgin spaceship. ;)
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Original message
From: Michael Thomas
Date: 07/26/2013 10:10 AM (GMT-08:00)
To: nanog@nanog.org
Su
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Ryan Pavely [mailto:para...@nac.net]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:33 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
Even the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abuse
contact', and en
On July 26, 2013 at 13:06 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu (valdis.kletni...@vt.edu)
wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:54:21 -0400, Alex Rubenstein said:
> > The LED billboards on the side of the road displaying targeted
> > advertisements, based on your proximity to them, because your android
> > phon
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On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>> Err. ICANN isn't a membership organization. It is possible to change things
>> at ICANN, but the mechanisms are ... different and much slower (since it
>> involves getting consensus in a multi-stakeholder environment).
>
> Sure
NANOG : network operators are precisely those who directly assisted in creating
the 'magic lamp' and the cork which held the marketing Jeanie inside. The same
operators who took the cork out and rubbed the 'magic lamp'... The Jeanie is
now out of the bottle and you all are complaining about it,
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:42:18AM -0700, goe...@anime.net wrote:
> Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on
> your abuse@ mailbox, IF you even have an abuse@, which a lot of you
> don't. Because we tried calling, and your tier1 are clueless.
>
> Fix your mailservers. T
-Original Message-
From: Rich Kulawiec [mailto:r...@gsp.org]
Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 2:23 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:42:18AM -0700, goe...@anime.net wrote:
> Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on
On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:04 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>
> Suggestion: Put tagged addresses and, if possible, phone numbers in your ARIN
> whois and other public records. When someone emails that address or calls
> that number, make sure you put them on a "never buy from" list, and they know
--- wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:
From: Warren Bailey
It's called retargeting and they are using cookies to do it.
--
So, properly manage your cookies and this will stop:
Flash cookies:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loca
On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:42 AM, "Otis L. Surratt, Jr." wrote:
>
>> Why can't we implement a method where you have to be a registered, and
> paying, user/member with an AS number to be able to get IP whois
> 'contact' info? Sure list my name and company. But keep my email and
> phone number private
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I'm just saying.. It happens more frequently which means it will be the next
subject of legislation.. Spam (unsolicited) has been pretty well taken care of
from my perspective.. I rarely see the madness I saw only 10 years ago. Someone
pointed out earlier that we were bitching about the problem
On 7/26/13, John Curran wrote:
> ARIN will run the Whois database however you folks collectively want it run.
> Write up the change you seek (should be fairly easy), show rough consensus
> in the community for the change (slightly more difficult task), and then,
I personally think there is too l
On Jul 26, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> If someone studies that and finds there is a correlation to spam based
> on WHOIS listing alone,
> then perhaps
No study has been conducted, but we do receive a small number of complaints
each year about email contact information being solici
I actually think it's important to have contact information publicly
available. I realize this opens the door for abuse, but I've found that
using a call screening service (Google Voice) at least provides a bit of
shield.
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:02 PM, Justin Vocke wrote:
> Sent this little e-
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Larry Stites wrote:
NANOG : network operators are precisely those who directly assisted in
creating the 'magic lamp' and the cork which held the marketing Jeanie
inside. The same operators who took the cork out and rubbed the 'magic
lamp'... The Jeanie is now out of the bo
Said the Network Engineer of The City of San Francisco..
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Original message
From: Jon Lewis
Date: 07/26/2013 6:17 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: Larry Stites
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Larry Stites wrote:
> NANOG :
On 7/26/13, Matt Hite wrote:
> I actually think it's important to have contact information publicly
> available. I realize this opens the door for abuse, but I've found that
> using a call screening service (Google Voice) at least provides a bit of
> shield.
Hm.. a thought does occur, that /so
Lol yet we can't use the side cutters cause we all report to the corporate
overlords
Sent from my iPhone
On 2013-07-26, at 8:18 PM, "Jon Lewis" wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Larry Stites wrote:
>
>> NANOG : network operators are precisely those who directly assisted in
>> creating the 'magic
On 7/26/13, Warren Bailey wrote:
> Said the Network Engineer of The City of San Francisco..
Hey, noone said the operators at the controls don't have to give
the keys up if their owners demand it -- the owners just can't
drive.
If you collectively piss off the guild of taxi drivers, in a wo
Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on
your abuse@ mailbox, IF you even have an abuse@, which a lot of you
don't. Because we tried calling, and your tier1 are clueless.
Fix your mailservers. Train your staff. Staff your abuse desk. Then
we'll talk.
My mail server
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