Re: kernel.org dns broken

2011-09-09 Thread Chris
I thought kernel.org was moving to github after that compromise...

RE: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Leigh Porter
> -Original Message- > From: Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo [mailto:carlosm3...@gmail.com] > Sent: 09 September 2011 05:10 > To: Mike Jones > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: NAT444 or ? > > When you need to pile up this amount of trickery to make something > work, it's probably high time f

Re: kernel.org dns broken

2011-09-09 Thread Chris Keladis
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 5:25 PM, Chris wrote: > I thought kernel.org was moving to github after that compromise... Yep, maybe it's related to that activity? Chris.

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Randy Bush
>> When you need to pile up this amount of trickery to make something >> work, it's probably high time for letting the thing die :-) > You could say the same thing about NAT44 from the very start! many of us did randy

2011 ARIN Election process is underway!

2011-09-09 Thread John Curran
Folks - Elections for two positions on the ARIN Board of Trustees and for five ARIN Advisory Council members are now underway. The biographies of the candidates are available online, as well as the ability to post online statements of support for candidates. For more information

Another internet depeering?

2011-09-09 Thread Grzegorz Janoszka
Telia (AS1299) stopped announce some prefixes to us, ie 83.8.0.0/13. Is it another internet depeering? Do you also see it? -- Grzegorz Janoszka

Re: Another internet depeering?

2011-09-09 Thread Joe Provo
On Fri, Sep 09, 2011 at 02:41:40PM +0200, Grzegorz Janoszka wrote: > > Telia (AS1299) stopped announce some prefixes to us, ie 83.8.0.0/13. Is > it another internet depeering? Do you also see it? "There are more routing policies on the Internet, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy."

RIPE call for presentations

2011-09-09 Thread Todd Underwood
Hello, The following announcement from the RIPE Programme Committee is probably of interest to the nanog audience. As most of you know, RIPE is the European analog to NANOG+ARIN and holds twice-yearly meetings with presentations and working groups on the subject of network engineering, operations

Re: kernel.org dns broken

2011-09-09 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 07:25, Chris wrote: > I thought kernel.org was moving to github after that compromise... The location of the Linus tree to github is temporary. Linus has stated that when the kernel.org infrastructure is rebuilt he will move back, and github will simply be a mirror. htt

CGN and CDN (was Re: what about the users re: NAT444 or ?)

2011-09-09 Thread Jean-Francois . TremblayING
> And these 'perceived' routing issues won't be noticed nor are they > important to CDN's? > I know what my job is, but that may not matter to the CDN's. Reading > this thread, I wanted to mention another problem that I feel has an > effect on this issue. > Lyle A very interesting point. In or

Re: CGN and CDN (was Re: what about the users re: NAT444 or ?)

2011-09-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:09:38 EDT, jean-francois.tremblay...@videotron.com said: > A very interesting point. In order to save precious CGN resources, > it would not be surprising to see some ISPs asking CDNs to provide > a private/non-routed behind-CGN leg for local CDN nodes. > > For this to w

Re: CGN and CDN (was Re: what about the users re: NAT444 or ?)

2011-09-09 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Friday 09 Sep 2011 16:25:35 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:09:38 EDT, Jean- francois.tremblay...@videotron.com said: > > > A very interesting point. In order to save precious CGN resources, > > it would not be surprising to see some ISPs asking CDNs to provide > > a p

Re: CGN and CDN (was Re: what about the users re: NAT444 or ?)

2011-09-09 Thread Christian de Larrinaga
I can predict the response from the teen dens of the world! What does CGN mean .. Can't Get Nothing! Christian On 9 Sep 2011, at 17:06, Alexander Harrowell wrote: > On Friday 09 Sep 2011 16:25:35 valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 11:09:38 EDT, Jean- > francois.tremblay

Re: CGN and CDN (was Re: what about the users re: NAT444 or ?)

2011-09-09 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 9, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: > Further, if making your hosting network IPv6 is hard, the answer is surely to > give the job to a CDN operator with v6 clue. This is a good strategy for payload-type content from unitary sources which lends itself to caching/redistributi

Pricing for Comcast Connectivity

2011-09-09 Thread Oscar Caraig
List, Does anyone have sample pricing for Comcast's Paid Peering (http://www.comcast.com/dedicatedinternet/) service they'd be able to share? Also, are there any transit ISPs to avoid when reaching Comcast? I remember discussion last winter about Tata being congested, and would like to underst

Re: what about the users re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Christian de Larrinaga
exactly. don't plan to deploy what breaks things for the user edge. there are two issues here 1/ what ISPs do that might break things at the edge 2/ what edge stuff is doing that will break things at the other end edge of a connection It seems a bit odd that ISPs would actively plot to do 1

RE: Pricing for Comcast Connectivity

2011-09-09 Thread John van Oppen
I think all pricing is under NDA for the direct connectivity... we have it, and I know it is under NDA for us... Comcast is in the becoming a tier1 game in a big way so avoiding people who don't already peer with the is probably a plus if you want great connectivity to them.The AS paths I

Re: Pricing for Comcast Connectivity

2011-09-09 Thread Ren Provo
Hi Oscar, John is right about the NDA. Feel free to reach out to Steve Lacoff, as noted at http://www.comcast.com/dedicatedinternet/ Volume, location, term, etc. are all factors to consider. Steve will be at NANOG if you, or others have questions. Cheers, -ren On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:01 PM,

Weekly Routing Table Report

2011-09-09 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net

RE: Pricing for Comcast Connectivity

2011-09-09 Thread Paul Stewart
Yes, definitely NDA in any of our dealings... I'd say the pricing was "competitive" for sure... Paul -Original Message- From: John van Oppen [mailto:jvanop...@spectrumnet.us] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:02 PM To: 'Oscar Caraig'; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Pricing for Comcast Co

Caveat emptor

2011-09-09 Thread Joly MacFie
Virginia woman sentenced to 5 years in prison for importing and selling counterfeit Cisco computer equipment http://content.govdelivery.com/bulletins/gd/USDHSICE-122191 -- --- Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast WWWhatsup NYC - h

Re: Microsoft deems all DigiNotar certificates untrustworthy, releases updates

2011-09-09 Thread Marcus Reid
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:17:10AM -0700, Network IP Dog wrote: > FYI!!! > > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2016132391_microsoft_dee > ms_all_diginotar_certificates_untrust.html > > Google and Mozilla have also updated their browsers to block all DigiNotar > certificates, whi

Re: Microsoft deems all DigiNotar certificates untrustworthy, releases updates

2011-09-09 Thread Paul
On 09/09/2011 11:48 AM, Marcus Reid wrote: On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:17:10AM -0700, Network IP Dog wrote: FYI!!! http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/microsoftpri0/2016132391_microsoft_dee ms_all_diginotar_certificates_untrust.html Google and Mozilla have also updated their browsers to block

BGP Update Report

2011-09-09 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 01-Sep-11 -to- 08-Sep-11 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS38040 40360 2.3%4036.0 -- GLOBAL-TRANSIT-TOT-IIG-TH TOT Public Company Limited 2 - AS

The Cidr Report

2011-09-09 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 9 21:12:28 2011 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

SourceForge / geek.net contact please

2011-09-09 Thread Landon Stewart
Hello Nanog, I wrote sfnet_...@geek.net but have had no response in over 24 hours. Wondering if someone from SF can contact me off list please. -- Landon Stewart SuperbHosting.Net by Superb Internet Corp. Toll Free (US/Canada): 888-354-6128 x 4199 Direct: 206-438-5879 Web hosting and more "Ahe

Re: Saudi Telecom sending route with invalid attributes 212.118.142.0/24

2011-09-09 Thread Kyle Duren
Is this announcement still showing up this way (no easy way to check myself). -Kyle On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Clay Haynes wrote: > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Jonas Frey (Probe Networks) < > j...@probe-networks.de> wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > anyone else getting a route for 212.118.14

Re: Microsoft deems all DigiNotar certificates untrustworthy, releases updates

2011-09-09 Thread Michael DeMan
Sorry for being ignorant here - I have not even been aware that it is possible to buy a '*.*.com' domain at all. I though wildcards were limited to having a domain off a TLD - like '*.mydomain.tld'. Is it true that the my browser on a windows, mac, or linux desktop may have listed as trusted a

Re: Microsoft deems all DigiNotar certificates untrustworthy, releases updates

2011-09-09 Thread Dan White
On 09/09/11 20:06 -0700, Michael DeMan wrote: Sorry for being ignorant here - I have not even been aware that it is possible to buy a '*.*.com' domain at all. I though wildcards were limited to having a domain off a TLD - like '*.mydomain.tld'. Is it true that the my browser on a windows, mac,

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 01:41:58 PM Seth Mos wrote: > The striking thing I picked up is that NTT considers the > CGN equipment a big black hole where money goes into. > Because it won't solve their problem now or in the > future and it becomes effectively a piece of equipment > they need t

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 04:52:56 PM Leigh Porter wrote: > Well if you buy the 'right' solution then you can re-use > it elsewhere. Many solutions use multi-purpose > processing cards to deliver NAT functionality which can > be used for other stuff such as firewalling or some > other manor

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 10, 2011, at 12:46 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > GPRS/3G/EDGE has made many a mobile provider especially notorious. All this problematic state should be broken up into smaller instantiations and distributed as close to the access edge (RAN, wireline, etc.) as possible in order to a) reduce the

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Friday, September 09, 2011 01:44:08 AM Dan Wing wrote: > Many of the problems are due to IPv4 address sharing, > which will be problems for A+P, CGN, HTTP proxies, and > other address sharing technologies. RFC6269 discusses > most (or all) of those problems. There are workarounds > to those pr

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Saturday, September 10, 2011 01:52:12 PM Dobbins, Roland wrote: > All this problematic state should be broken up into > smaller instantiations and distributed as close to the > access edge (RAN, wireline, etc.) as possible in order > to a) reduce the amount of state concentrated in a > single

Re: Microsoft deems all DigiNotar certificates untrustworthy, releases updates

2011-09-09 Thread Jimmy Hess
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 4:48 PM, Marcus Reid wrote: > On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 09:17:10AM -0700, Network IP Dog wrote: > I like this response; instant CA death penalty seems to put the > incentives about where they need to be. I wouldn't necessarily count them dead just yet; although their legit c

Re: NAT444 or ?

2011-09-09 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Sep 10, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Mark Tinka wrote: > What we've seen also, with some mobile carriers, is that if you ask them to > consider distributed IP architectures, they/you quickly realize that IP > routing isn't really their core business or skill. Concur. Many/most have essentially become