Re: OECD Reports on State of IPv6 Deployment for Policy Makers

2010-04-10 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/9/2010 23:23, Franck Martin wrote: > http://www.circleid.com/posts/20100409_oecd_reports_on_state_of_ipv6_deployment_for_policy_makers/ > > Nasty, degenerate, foot-dragging U.S. of A. does it again. -- Somebody should have said: A democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring Comcast

2010-04-10 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/10/2010 06:36, Roderick Beck wrote: > I would characterize the US as a first rate military and economic > power, but a third rate place to live. What are the net emigration rates by country? What are the net "medical tourism" rates by country? What are the net disaster charity rates by cou

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring Comcast

2010-04-10 Thread Patrick Giagnocavo
Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 4/10/2010 06:36, Roderick Beck wrote: > >> I would characterize the US as a first rate military and economic >> power, but a third rate place to live. > > What are the net emigration rates by country? > > What are the net "medical tourism" rates by country? > > What ar

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring Comcast

2010-04-10 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/10/2010 09:19, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: > Larry Sheldon wrote: >> On 4/10/2010 06:36, Roderick Beck wrote: > Please, let's keep this off the NANOG list! I am already on a > politically oriented forum. Got it. It is OK to make accusations, but not OK to challenge them. My apologies. -- S

Re: OECD Reports on State of IPv6 Deployment for Policy Makers

2010-04-10 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
On 4/10/10 1:42 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> You should have seen the CNN experiment on cyber attack... > > you mean the failed chertoff/cheney wanna make the news clueless crap? > puhleeze! the fcc has more guns than that mob had clue. unfortunately, the failed chertoff/cheney celebrants of the "c

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring Comcast

2010-04-10 Thread Jason Plank
Yawn. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 10, 2010, at 10:22 AM, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 4/10/2010 09:19, Patrick Giagnocavo wrote: Larry Sheldon wrote: On 4/10/2010 06:36, Roderick Beck wrote: Please, let's keep this off the NANOG list! I am already on a politically oriented forum. Got it.

Re: OECD Reports on State of IPv6 Deployment for Policy Makers

2010-04-10 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Randy Bush wrote: > karine perset's work is, as usual, good enough that it should be seen in > it's original, not some circle-je^h^hid hack of a small part of it. > > http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/48/8/44961688.pdf John, I'd like to call your attention to slide 8

Re: OECD Reports on State of IPv6 Deployment for Policy Makers

2010-04-10 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:40 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >> karine perset's work is, as usual, good enough that it should be seen in >> it's original, not some circle-je^h^hid hack of a small part of it. >> >> http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/48/8/449

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-10 Thread Brandon Ross
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010, William Herrin wrote: Fun movies notwithstanding, they generally issue a fine and work it through the civil courts. And please educate me then, when I don't pay the fine, then what happens? -- Brandon Ross AIM: BrandonNRoss

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring Comcast

2010-04-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 9, 2010, at 7:04 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > I believe you are doing a disservice to the FCC by making these inflammatory > statements. And here I thought I was defending them for being different & better than the last group. The point is, joe asked about the FCC that made a ruling. The s

Re: OECD Reports on State of IPv6 Deployment for Policy Makers

2010-04-10 Thread Tim Durack
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Apr 10, 2010, at 9:40 AM, William Herrin wrote: > >> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 12:31 AM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> karine perset's work is, as usual, good enough that it should be seen in >>> it's original, not some circle-je^h^hid hack of a sm

Re: OECD Reports on State of IPv6 Deployment for Policy Makers

2010-04-10 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 10/04/2010 21:36, Tim Durack wrote: > Notify all holders of a currently active AS they have been > allocated/assigned a /32. No fees. No questions. > > To accept the allocation/assignment, it must be advertised within a 24 > month period. > > There is no shortage of available /32s in 2000::/3.

Re: OECD Reports on State of IPv6 Deployment for Policy Makers

2010-04-10 Thread Tim Durack
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > I'm puzzled as to why you might think that this would incentivise > meaningful deployment of ipv6. > > Nick > > It removes the hurdle of working with the RIR and/or getting management buy-in to go negotiate for number resources. (Our pers

Re: FCC dealt major blow in net neutrality ruling favoring, Comcast

2010-04-10 Thread Richard Bennett
The FCC is structured in such a way that the chairman calls all the shots on policy matters. In this instance, the former chairman, Kevin Martin, was responsible for the Comcast order but the current chairman, Julius Genachowski, had to defend it in court. Some wags insist that the defense was

Re: ARIN IP6 policy for those with legacy IP4 Space

2010-04-10 Thread JC Dill
Dave Israel wrote: On 4/9/2010 12:30 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Put differently, you work in this arena too... you've presumably talked to stakeholders. Can you list some of the reasons people have provided for not adopting v6, and are any of them related to the v6 policies regarding address sp

32 bits ASN on Cisco

2010-04-10 Thread Franck Martin
Sorry if it is not the right forum, but I'm trying to get a grip on 32Bits ASN on Cisco I see that feature is available on 12.4(24)T http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6554/ps6599/data_sheet_C78-521821.html Which is available only for "new gear". I don't know how ne

Re: 32 bits ASN on Cisco

2010-04-10 Thread Gary T. Giesen
You can still request a 16 bit ASN from the registries, so if this is a concern for a new deployment you're not out of luck (yet). There is a compatibility mechanism, so you can still receive routes sourced from (or passing through) 32 bit ASNs, they will simply appear as AS 23456. Even if you have