> Am I over-thinking this?
Yes, I think so. Often a large component of an SLA is related to the
cost of compliance versus the cost of the penalty imposed. If it is
cheaper to pay the occasional penalty, rather than construct the
network to meet the SLA, then the network operator will often make a
I'm not sure if this is the right list, but this is my best guess at
this point; If there is anyone here who administers
(any/some/all/involved with) the sms to email gateways for
AT&T/Cingular, could you please contact me offlist?
Thanks mucho!
--
Colin Hines
Bill,
To be brief, but hopefully not too fleeting, the majority of the
standards orgs - ITU, MEF - use packet loss to derive availability.
Loss% = the % of packets which were transmitted but not received by the
destination host. As for availability, loss is measured across some
time period. If d
I think the desired goal here is to separate the access SLA from
the backbone SLA. That is, consider a simple picture:
Network Cloud--Provider Edge Router-Local Loop-Customer Router
Network availability is the % of the time the customer router and
provider edge router can communica
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> Now, having said all that, and having been one of the people who've
> attempted to communicate sane, rational, technical ideas to marketing
> and legal the chance that anything sane made it in the actual contract
> is, well, nil.
I disagree.
If someone takes the trouble to publish a technical d
Hi All,
We're making progress...
I registered the domains voiceops.org and voiceops.net. No matter what the
final name becomes, at least we've got some domains that aren't too hard on the
eyes.
Some noble souls have already volunteered to host it on a proper mailman server.
Nothing is set
Aawaw
On 7/29/09, Bill Woodcock wrote:
>
> So I've embarked on the no-doubt-futile task of trying to interpret
> SLAs as empirically-verifiable technical specifications, rather than
> as marketing blather. And there's something that I'm finding
> particularly puzzling:
>
> In most SLAs, there se
We use the BRIX active measurement system (BRIX now owned by EXFO) which
gathers round trip time, packet loss, and jitter randomly every minute
24x7x365 for our major backbone links to calculate SLAs. "Network
Availability" can be measured empirically using BRIX calculated values
of packet loss, an
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> Am I over-thinking this?
The SLA's I've looked at promise me that if their service is hard down
for a week (with no ambiguity whatsoever) they'll credit my bill for
upwards of 2% of the $50k/year or so I spend on the Internet
connection for
I have a question about the subnet size for BGP peers. Typically when we
turn up a new BGP customer we turn them up on a /29 or a /30. That seems to
be the "norm".
We connect to many of our BGP peers with ethernet. It would be a simple
matter to allocate a /24 for connectivity to the customer
William Herrin wrote:
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 12:34 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
Am I over-thinking this?
The SLA's I've looked at promise me that if their service is hard down
for a week (with no ambiguity whatsoever) they'll credit my bill for
upwards of 2% of the $50k/year or so I spend
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 4:19 PM, JC Dill wrote:
> William Herrin wrote:
>> The SLA's I've looked at promise me that if their service is hard down
>> for a week (with no ambiguity whatsoever) they'll credit my bill for
>> upwards of 2% of the $50k/year or so I spend on the Internet
>> connection for
Brandon Butterworth wrote:
NAVOG works for me.
I'd prefer Voice Operators' Group Online Network
brandon
*claps*
On 29.07.2009, at 22:52, Jason LeBlanc wrote:
Brandon Butterworth wrote:
NAVOG works for me.
I'd prefer Voice Operators' Group Online Network
brandon
*claps*
Imagine the poetry you have to listen to when _those_ guys put you on
hold...
On 30/07/2009, at 7:59 AM, Jim Wininger wrote:
I have a question about the subnet size for BGP peers. Typically
when we
turn up a new BGP customer we turn them up on a /29 or a /30. That
seems to
be the "norm".
We connect to many of our BGP peers with ethernet. It would be a
simple
JC Dill wrote:
> William Herrin wrote:
>> The SLA's I've looked at promise me that if their service is hard
>> down for a week (with no ambiguity whatsoever) they'll credit my bill
>> for upwards of 2% of the $50k/year or so I spend on the Internet
>> connection for my mutli-million dollar online s
-- Forwarded message --
From: andrew.wallace
Date: Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 6:22 PM
Subject: Real Black Hats Hack Security Experts on Eve of Conference
To: Information Security Mailing List
LAS VEGAS — Two noted security professionals were targeted this week
by hackers who broke int
/29's here for everyone great for troubleshooting and any future
additions typically required...;)
-Original Message-
From: Jim Wininger [mailto:jbot...@gmail.com]
Sent: July 29, 2009 4:00 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Subnet Size for BGP peers.
I have a question about the subnet si
Imagine two of your clients are competitors, they probably don't want to
be on the same IP range. And yes, when you sell your service to several
customers, you don't want one of them blowing up all the other's SLA.
IXs use /24, as far as I know, and peers connected there can usually use
md5 pa
--- On Wed, 7/29/09, Scott Weeks wrote:
> From: Scott Weeks
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Dan Kaminsky
> To: "andrew.wallace"
> Date: Wednesday, July 29, 2009, 10:10 PM
>
>
> --- andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com
> wrote:
>
> http://www.leetupload.com/zf05.txt
> --
>
>
> LAS VEGAS — Two noted security professionals were targeted this week
> by hackers who broke into their web pages, stole personal data and
> posted it online on the eve of the Black Hat security conference.
boring.
randy
Randy Bush wrote:
>> LAS VEGAS — Two noted security professionals were targeted this week
>> by hackers who broke into their web pages, stole personal data and
>> posted it online on the eve of the Black Hat security conference.
>>
>
> boring.
>
> randy
>
>
Two noted security profession
>>> LAS VEGAS — Two noted security professionals were targeted this week
>>> by hackers who broke into their web pages, stole personal data and
>>> posted it online on the eve of the Black Hat security conference.
>> boring.
> Two noted security professionals, and Kevin Mitnick, whom no one giv
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Wininger"
To:
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:59 PM
Subject: Subnet Size for BGP peers.
I have a question about the subnet size for BGP peers. Typically when we
turn up a new BGP customer we turn them up on a /29 or a /30. That seems
to
be the "n
On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Benjamin Billon wrote:
Who knows any other good way to lose IP addresses?
I know how to not lose them:
int lo30
ip address 192.168.0.1 255.255.255.0
int gi2.10
encap dot1q 10
desc cust 1
ip address unnumbered lo30
int gi2.11
encap dot1q 11
desc cust 2
ip address unnumbe
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