Re: [NANOG] Multihoming for small frys?

2008-05-22 Thread Joe Warren-Meeks
On Wed, May 21, 2008 at 12:08:32PM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > For multihomed, /22 is still the rule. Over here in RIPE-land, I just got a /23 for AS44947, announced as two /24's. Seems to work fine. -- joe.

Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread Joe Blanchard
Pardon the request, Is their anyone on the NANOG list from Hughesnet? I'm facing an issue with reverse DNS (RFC1912) that is difficult at best to resolve in India. ;) Please contact me off list. Regards, Joe Blanchard

RE: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread rar
I have tried everything I can think of to get good technical support from Hughesnet. I sent a Fed Ex package outlining a problem to the President. Never heard a word. The people in India where a nightmare. I worked with one of their sales reps and no satisfaction. If you find anyone who can h

Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread James Kelty
Hey all, I'm looking for an opinion from the group. I have an ARIN /21 assignment and a new requirement for a second data center. Rather than ask for another assignment, I would like to advertise one /22 from one location and the other /22 from the second location both with the same asn. My a

RE: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Scott Morris
As long as your upstreams/partners are cool with that, there is no related designation between how addresses are allocated versus how they are announced. In other words, TECHNICALLY you could advertise a whole bunch of /30's You just run the risk of being filtered and/or ridiculed along the wa

RE: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Ben Butler
Hi, I do appreciate real life is often more complex than high flying ideals. But aggregation and general good practice would mean in an ideal world you would invest in the internal infrastructure to connect your data centres together with a network and run an IGP+iBGP plus advertise the /21 eBGP a

Re: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Joe Maimon
James Kelty wrote: Hey all, I'm looking for an opinion from the group. I have an ARIN /21 assignment and a new requirement for a second data center. Rather than ask for another assignment, I would like to advertise one /22 from one location and the other /22 from the second location both wit

Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Joe Maimon
Looking for some advice for a first-timer. What are your recommendation regarding gear? - laptop and charger only - laptop with small bag - the whole normal kit&caboodle, wheeled backpack thing Thanks, Joe

Re: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Thu, 22 May 2008, James Kelty wrote: I'm looking for an opinion from the group. I have an ARIN /21 assignment and a new requirement for a second data center. Rather than ask for another assignment, I would like to advertise one /22 from one location and the other /22 from the second locatio

RE: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Has anyone else noticed that the [NANOG] prefix has been missing intermittently from the list traffic over the last couple of days? -J --- Jason J. W. Williams COO/CTO, DigiTar http://www.digitar.com E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V: 208-343-8520 M: 208-863-0727 F: 208-322-8520 XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
I I were you, I will advertise as following. /21 Original ARIN allocation /22 First half of ARIN allocation /22 second half of ARIN allocation In this case, you will have backup /21 route just in case of filtering or something like that. But in normal case, traffic will be routed based on more sp

Re: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread Michael Holstein
Has anyone else noticed that the [NANOG] prefix has been missing intermittently from the list traffic over the last couple of days? Different SMTP servers, it appears (looks like they might have been using an Ironport box to do anti-spam, and it was probably doing the subject re-writes as

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Lynda
Joe Maimon wrote: Looking for some advice for a first-timer. What are your recommendation regarding gear? [snippy] - the whole normal kit&caboodle, wheeled backpack thing Personally, I'd go with the latter. I've done it all, from backpack (that'll start to be a nuisance, trust me) to lapto

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Paul Wall
I've not been to the conference myself, but I hear laptop and charger is a good plan. Following the advice of our host, David Diaz (Telx), care should be exercised to make sure your laptop bag does not have the text "LAPTOP" printed on it, as that would make it a target for thieves. Additionally,

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
Third option. ^.^ You may need to have notepad, pens, and other stuffs. Also when you collect brochure or something like that, it is easy to carry around. Hyun Joe Maimon wrote: > Looking for some advice for a first-timer. > > What are your recommendation regarding gear? > > - laptop and charger

Re: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Yamasaki, Charles
> Make sure that your two location is inter-connected directly, Why is this required? If you put static routes to point the remote /21 to the upstream provider on each side wouldn't that take care of the origin AS loop? On 5/22/08 10:45 AM, "Hyunseog Ryu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I I were

Re: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
What if upstream connection - Internet - goes down? If you have fully redundant system implemented from both locations, so you don't need another site for operation, that will be fine. But in normal situation, there is some dependency. Also, if you have massive backup and/or data transaction betwee

Internet Week NY Jun 2 - Jun 9

2008-05-22 Thread WWWhatsup
> Please note that Internet Week NY coincides with the NANOG meet. Some events may be of interest: http://www.internetweekny.com/schedule/list Joly MacFie http://isoc-ny.org

Re: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Joe Maimon
Yamasaki, Charles wrote: Make sure that your two location is inter-connected directly, Why is this required? If you put static routes to point the remote /21 to the upstream provider on each side wouldn't that take care of the origin AS loop? Origin AS is easily handled by the allow-as-in

Re: Splitting ARIN assignment

2008-05-22 Thread Yamasaki, Charles
Sorry, typo'd the /21. He wants to carve into /22. On 5/22/08 11:45 AM, "Joe Maimon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yamasaki, Charles wrote: >>> Make sure that your two location is inter-connected directly, >> >> Why is this required? If you put static routes to point the remote /21 to >>

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Thu, 22 May 2008 14:07:48 -0400 > From: "Paul Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I've not been to the conference myself, but I hear laptop and charger > is a good plan. > > Following the advice of our host, David Diaz (Telx), care should be > exercised to make sure your laptop bag does not hav

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Hannigan
We're in the Marriot, not a crack house. And it's NYC, not Sao Paolo. I think my friend Dave needs to actually spend some time in New York City. :). Don't buy any bridges. And if you're driving, stay off the cross Bronx Expresseway. It's moidah during rush hour. -M< - Original Message

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread David Diaz
Dave as in David D has spent TOO much time in NY. I gave basic smart tips for any big city. Just wear a Telx hat and you are safe. That is like the crips there in NY. Lots of respect from the gangs. Otherwise no one can make bets with their bookie, fo'get 'about it Enjoy your travel

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Rod Beck
I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one of the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement. New York has a lower incidence of crime than Miami, Detroit, Seattle, Los Vegas, Houston, Atlanta, DC, Los Angeles, and Philadelphia. http://www.baruch.c

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Hannigan
Heheh. Good tip. Where do we get our shields on Sunday? :) - Original Message - From: David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Martin Hannigan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu May 22 20:13:29 2008 Subject: Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting Dave as

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Chris McDonald
a glock 27 takes the same magazine as a glock 22. that's good nyc knowledge. On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Martin Hannigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Heheh. Good tip. Where do we get our shields on Sunday? :) > > > > > - Original Message - > From: David Diaz <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread J. Oquendo
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris McDonald wrote: | a glock 27 takes the same magazine as a glock 22. that's good nyc knowledge. |> Heheh. Good tip. Where do we get our shields on Sunday? :) Nothing to be afraid of in NYC especially with NANOG coming to town http://www.infilt

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Rod Beck
There is no disagreement between Mr. Rubenstein and myself. :) Roderick S. Beck Director of European Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444-8829. Landline: 33-1-4346-3209. French Wireless: 33-6-14-33-48-97. AOL Messenger:

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Alex Rubenstein
> I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one of > the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement. While I generally agree with what Rod is saying, saying "NYC is safe" is like saying "all routers are cisco" There are safe areas, and there are not safe

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Chip Marshall
On May 22, 2008, Rod Beck sent me the following: > I hate to break the news to the New York bashers, but New York is one > of the safest American cities. This is not a controversial statement. > > New York has a lower incidence of crime than Miami, Detroit, Seattle, > Los Vegas, Houston, Atlanta,

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Martin Hannigan
Seriously, Dave was taken out of context by the usual suspects. Brooklyn / NYC is pretty OK. Oh, ObOp! Thanks a ton, Telx! - Original Message - From: Chris McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Martin Hannigan Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thu May 22

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 11:01:00AM -0700, Lynda wrote: > One of the things that makes me popular is that I carry a PowerSquid > (one of the best inventions *evaire*), just in case. They're nice, but the little 8-outlet (5 + 3-transformer) yellow and black thing from Walmart is just as useful, and

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Christian
the area in BKLYN where the Mariott is fine, its a one of the better neighborhoods - i believe its Brooklyn Heights, though can be confused with DUMBO and downtown brooklyn as they are all adjacent /christian On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:10 PM, Alex Rubenstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I hate

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 22 May 2008 17:10:29 EDT, Alex Rubenstein said: > Yes, but in at least most of those locations, my Florida or Utah CCW is > valid. That's not a router. Now *that's* a router... :) pgpp8Q3vWPupN.pgp Description: PGP signature

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Rod Beck
Now that we have television shows like Miami Vice (which are available here in Paris in French), I expect the American public to be less biased in their views of New York. It is all a question of what cities are used as the background for the crime shows. :) Roderick S. Beck

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
Probably if you stick to common sense, it will be o.k. If you see broken windows and/or lots of graffiti in the wall, probably I wouldn't go there. ^>^ Since you will be seeing more people in NYC area, you may get some stress to see lots of people, but overall it's not that bad. Just stick to you

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread andrew young
Once you all get there, you will realize how awesome this place is. There is nothing to be afraid. Just remember, carry around an unlimited metrocard and a subway map. Taking cabs everything can get expensive. for those that are planning to spend the weekend in NYC, be sure to check out http://ww

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
One more thing... Rent-car may be not a good idea. Sometimes it's hard to find the parking spot. ^.^ As Andrew said, it will be better to use public transportations such as cab, bus, and sub-way. It may take more time, but sometimes the driving style of New Yorker may be a little bit offensive, and

Re: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Jason J. W. Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone else noticed that the [NANOG] prefix has been missing > intermittently from the list traffic over the last couple of days? This was planned, and then announced approx 5 days ago. You are subscribed to na

Re: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread andrew young
some useful links for getting around NYC using public transportation: http://www.hopstop.com/ http://www.mta.info/mta/maps.htm http://tripplanner.mta.info/ - Andrew Young Webair Internet Development, Inc Phone: 1 866 WEBAIR 1 FAX: 516.938.5100 http://www

RE: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Guess I missed it. I remember the announcement for the move from merit.edu to nanog.org. -J --- Jason J. W. Williams COO/CTO, DigiTar http://www.digitar.com E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V: 208-343-8520 M: 208-863-0727 F: 208-322-8520 XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim Popovit

RE: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Actually, I'm not subscribed to nanog-announce. -J --- Jason J. W. Williams COO/CTO, DigiTar http://www.digitar.com E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] V: 208-343-8520 M: 208-863-0727 F: 208-322-8520 XMPP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Jim Popovitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thurs

RE: Hauling gear around a NANOG meeting

2008-05-22 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: "Rod Beck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Now that we have television shows like Miami Vice (which are available here in Paris in French), I expect the American public to be less biased in their views of New York. It is all a question of what cities are used as the back

Re: [Nanog-futures] Announce list: Re: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 9:35 PM, someone wrote: > Add me to the list of never-saw-that. In addition, I just checked the > nanog archives, and there isn't an announcement of that type in the > archives. Below is the full email, with headers, from Monday. Hopefully it will put this issue to rest...

Re: [Nanog-futures] Announce list: Re: Hughes Network

2008-05-22 Thread James R. Cutler
The announcement was made to nanog-announce, but not to nanog. I would expect that there are scads more readers of nanog than of nanog announce. For some, that could cause unexpected results, especially with the 24 hour notice. Corroborative detail below. (Oops, top posting) Regards. On