Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Sat, 3 May 2008, Randy Bush wrote: > back office software > ip and dns management software > provisioning tools > cpe > measurement and monitoring and billing > > and, of course, backbone and aggregation equipment that can actually > handle real ipv6 traffic flows with acls and chocolate syrup.

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Sat, 3 May 2008, Randy Bush wrote: > >> back office software >> ip and dns management software >> provisioning tools >> cpe >> measurement and monitoring and billing >> >> and, of course, backbone and aggregation equipment that can actually >> handle real ipv6 traffi

[NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread sthaug
Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? % dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com yotube.com. 2D IN NSns1.parked.com. yotube.com. 2D IN NSns2.parked.com. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ NAN

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Niels Bakker
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Sat 03 May 2008, 15:28 CEST]: >Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? ^^ > >% dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com ^ Still early, Steinar? -- Niels. -- ___ NANOG mailing list NANO

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Kipkemoi Kibiego
yotube.com != youtube.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? > > % dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com > > yotube.com. 2D IN NSns1.parked.com. > yotube.com. 2D IN NSns2.parked.com. > > Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAI

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread sthaug
> >Did Youtube not pay their domain bill? >^^ > > > >% dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns yotube.com > ^ > Still early, Steinar? You're right, clearly insufficient amounts of coffee here... Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Eric Spaeth
Still down either way... === ; <<>> DiG 9.2.4 <<>> dns1.sjl.youtube.com @a.gtld-servers.net ; (2 servers found) ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 22563 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Randy Bush
> dns1.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.201 > dns2.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.137 2182 lesson again, probably. after all, microsoft/hotmail/... being borked for a day can't happen to me! randy ___ NANOG

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Brant I. Stevens
Maybe that block is anycasted? On 5/3/08 9:45 AM, "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> dns1.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.201 >> dns2.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.137 > > 2182 lesson again, probably. after all, microsoft/hotmail/... being

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Brant I. Stevens
Never mind. I'll go back to bed now. > Maybe that block is anycasted? > > > On 5/3/08 9:45 AM, "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> dns1.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.201 >>> dns2.sjl.youtube.com. 172800 IN A 208.65.152.137 >> >> 2182 lesson agai

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Eric Spaeth
If they were anycasted, shouldn't they be reachable from _somewhere_ ? Those servers are dead from the 4 corners of the US that I have resources to use for testing. Brant I. Stevens wrote: > Maybe that block is anycasted? > > ___ NANOG mailing

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread David Coulson
Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end is still advertising the routes. It came back to life for me a few moments ago (via Cogent) and it looks like the routing did not change (there is a bunch of 10/8 stuff in the traceroute). Eric Spaeth wrote: > If they were

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Marshall Eubanks
I received a report from a user at 9:46 EDT that they couldn't access youtube, so at least some users were affected. Regards Marshall On May 3, 2008, at 10:25 AM, David Coulson wrote: > Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end > is still advertising the routes. >

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread sthaug
> Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end > is still advertising the routes. > > It came back to life for me a few moments ago (via Cogent) and it looks > like the routing did not change (there is a bunch of 10/8 stuff in the > traceroute). Looks like it's back h

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Mike Lewinski
David Coulson wrote: > Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end > is still advertising the routes. Possibly a good argument for allowing the DNS servers to originate the routes for them...? I've seen configuration where the routes were injected based on link state

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Kevin Blackham
We did that with our internally anycasted recursors at my former network. A script withdraws the routes if bind isn't answering. Works great. On 5/3/08, Mike Lewinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > David Coulson wrote: > > Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end > > i

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Sat, 3 May 2008, Mike Lewinski wrote: > David Coulson wrote: >> Depends - It doesn't help if the DNS server is dead, but the front-end >> is still advertising the routes. > > Possibly a good argument for allowing the DNS servers to originate the > routes for them...? I've seen configuration whe

Re: [NANOG] Did Youtube not pay their domain bill?

2008-05-03 Thread Randy Bush
Eric Spaeth wrote: > If they were anycasted, shouldn't they be reachable from _somewhere_ not if routing problem with the prefix. anycasted prefixes have analogous problem to that described in 2182. need at least two separately routed prefixes or single method of failure. randy __

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Geoff Huston
Mike Leber wrote: > Since nobody mentioned it yet, there are now less than 1000 days projected > until IPv4 exhaustion: > > http://www.potaroo.net/tools/ipv4/ > ps. 1000 days assumes no rush, speculation, or hoarding. Do people do > that? > > pps. Of course these are provocative comments

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread William Warren
That also doesn't take into account how many /8's are being hoarded by organizations that don't need even 25% of that space. Geoff Huston wrote: > Mike Leber wrote: >> Since nobody mentioned it yet, there are now less than 1000 days projected >> until IPv4 exhaustion: >> >> http://www.potaroo.net

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Nathan Ward
On 4/05/2008, at 3:22 PM, William Warren wrote: > That also doesn't take into account how many /8's are being hoarded by > organizations that don't need even 25% of that space. Unless you're expecting those organisations to be really nice and make that address space available to other organisa

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
William Warren wrote: > That also doesn't take into account how many /8's are being hoarded by > organizations that don't need even 25% of that space. which one's would those be? legacy class A address space just isn't that big... > Geoff Huston wrote: >> Mike Leber wrote: >>> Since nobody ment

Re: [NANOG] fair warning: less than 1000 days left to IPv4 exhaustion

2008-05-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Let's think smaller. /16 shall we say? Like the /16 here. Originally the SRI / ARPANET SF Bay Packet Radio network that started back in 1977. Now controlled by a shell company belonging to a shell company belonging to a "high volume email deployer" :) http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/

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2008-05-03 Thread Justin Sharp
Hello, Forgive me if this has been covered previously. I have recently discovered this list and have found it a gold mine of information. I've now traded 3 hours of my life reading through archives and have even found reference to specific recent outages that my company suffered to which we ne

Re: [NANOG] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2008-05-03 Thread Gadi Evron
That list oaught to be working again in a matter of days. On Sat, 3 May 2008, Justin Sharp wrote: > Hello, > > Forgive me if this has been covered previously. > > I have recently discovered this list and have found it a gold mine of > information. I've now traded 3 hours of my life reading throu