On Jan 12, 2011, at 3:49 PM, david raistrick wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
>
>> What is considered normal with regards to access to your co-located
>> server(s)? Especially when you're just co-locating one or a few servers.
>
> For less than 1 rack, or specialty racks wi
> Cruzio in Santa Cruz ...
> Their 1U offer comes with limited access to your server, only from 10AM
> to 6 PM. I find that not acceptable.
sheesh d00d, you ever been to cruz?
randy
On 1/13/11 11:30 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> JC Dill wrote:
>> Scruz is ~30-45 minutes from the heart of the internet on the west
>> coast (Silicon Valley). If your $dayjob isn't in scruz, then it's
>> most likely IN Silicon Valley. So locate your 1U server in Silicon
>> Valley, where
>
> Yes
JC Dill wrote:
Scruz is ~30-45 minutes from the heart of the internet on the west coast
(Silicon Valley). If your $dayjob isn't in scruz, then it's most likely
IN Silicon Valley. So locate your 1U server in Silicon Valley, where
Yes it's in the Valley and I do consider locating it there. Bu
On 12/01/11 4:28 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
George Bonser wrote:
Awesome. It's good to know that there are still operations like that
around. That is probably found more often in local providers and not
so often in the big operations. The more community oriented
providers would be much mor
On 1/12/2011 3:24 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
>
> What is considered normal with regards to access to your co-located
> server(s)? Especially when you're just co-locating one or a few servers.
Depends on how much you are paying really. If you decide to go with
this provider, get dual power suppli
On 01/12/2011 06:57 PM, Justin Scott wrote:
>> I was thinking that it was great just to find someone these days
>> that would accept a one-off server and that should be enough to
>> be thankful for!
>
> Especially true with providers like SoftLayer which can turn up a
> fully dedicated server to s
> I was thinking that it was great just to find someone these days
> that would accept a one-off server and that should be enough to
> be thankful for!
Especially true with providers like SoftLayer which can turn up a
fully dedicated server to spec at any of several locations within a
few hours.
George Bonser wrote:
Awesome. It's good to know that there are still operations like that around.
That is probably found more often in local providers and not so often in the
big operations. The more community oriented providers would be much more
accepting of such a situation than a large
> From: Kevin Stange
> You're talking about a dedicated server business versus colocation.
> Colocation can be a better solution if you have special needs for
> hardware or want to not pay for the extra overhead that needs to be
> built-in for supporting dedicated hardware (like stocking replacem
Kevin Stange wrote:
I guess what you're saying holds true if the facility doesn't already
offer /anyone/ this access regardless of how much equipment and space
they have.
They offer 24/7 access to 1/3 racks or more.
The price is not that low, $100/month for 1*1U and 1 IP. I'd say that's
not a
If it were cheap and I needed a secondary site for backups and DR then I
would live with that. Otherwise no.
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On 01/12/2011 03:50 PM, George Bonser wrote:
> I would say even that hosting other people's hardware on a "one off"
> basis isn't even really cost effective. Better, in my opinion, for the
> service provider to simply buy a rack from Rackable or another vendor
> and rent the servers out to people.
On 01/12/2011 03:44 PM, david raistrick wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
>
>> I guess knowing who entered the building by means of a keycard and
>> having cameras isn't considered enough to deter potential "evil
>> doers". I know it's not enough for places like equinix, but tha
On 1/12/2011 12:24, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> Cruzio in Santa Cruz recently opened a little co-location facility. That
> makes two of such facilities in Santa Cruz (the other being got.net),
> which could be a good thing for competition.
>
> Their 1U offer comes with limited access to your server,
> From: david raistrick
> Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 1:44 PM
> To: Jeroen van Aart
> Cc: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: co-location and access to your server
>
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
>
> > I guess knowing who entered the building by m
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
I guess knowing who entered the building by means of a keycard and having
cameras isn't considered enough to deter potential "evil doers". I know it's
not enough for places like equinix, but that's of a different caliber.
Paying for 1u of colo justi
todd glassey wrote:
On 1/12/2011 12:28 PM, Matt Kelly wrote:
When you are talking single or partial rack colo it is generally done
policy. The ISP's limited access policy has to do with their overhead
models and that's all there is to that.
Sorry to bring daylight into this but it is what
On 1/12/2011 12:28 PM, Matt Kelly wrote:
When you are talking single or partial rack colo it is generally done as
escorted only, due to security. They can't have anyone coming in and poking
around other customers hardware without being watched. We do the same thing
but we allow 24x7 escorted
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
What is considered normal with regards to access to your co-located
server(s)? Especially when you're just co-locating one or a few servers.
For less than 1 rack, or specialty racks with lockable sections (1/2 or
1/3 or 1/4 racks with their own door
> Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 12:24:18 -0800
> From: jer...@mompl.net
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: co-location and access to your server
>
> Cruzio in Santa Cruz recently opened a little co-location facility. That
> makes two of such facilities in Santa Cruz (the other being got.
> What is considered normal with regards to access to your co-located
> server(s)? Especially when you're just co-locating one or a few servers.
Normally you need an escort so you don't go fiddling with other
people's hardware. Our provider has a callout fee if we want to get in
at nights or weeke
The answer, as always, is "how much do you want to pay?" There are lots of
cheap places that make it a hassle for you to get in so you use their remote
hands, or just let you in on their terms so they don't have to keep the
place open at night.
-Jack Carrozzo
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 3:24 PM, Jero
When you are talking single or partial rack colo it is generally done as
escorted only, due to security. They can't have anyone coming in and poking
around other customers hardware without being watched. We do the same thing
but we allow 24x7 escorted access. Half and full racks get 24x7 acce
24x7x365
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> Cruzio in Santa Cruz recently opened a little co-location facility. That
> makes two of such facilities in Santa Cruz (the other being got.net),
> which could be a good thing for competition.
>
> Their 1U offer comes with limi
Cruzio in Santa Cruz recently opened a little co-location facility. That
makes two of such facilities in Santa Cruz (the other being got.net),
which could be a good thing for competition.
Their 1U offer comes with limited access to your server, only from 10AM
to 6 PM. I find that not acceptabl
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