;Maurand
>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 6:43 PM
>To: Niels Bakker ; nanog@nanog.org
>Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
>Microsoft tells me 3.2 GB for win 10 pro 64 bit.
>
>On July 28, 2015 6:04:04 PM EDT, Niels Bakker
>wrote:
>>* n...@flhsi.com (Nick Olsen) [Tue 28 Jul 2
NANOG isn't for desktop OS licensing support, was: Windows 10 Release
I hate to be that guy, but this is getting really outside the scope of NANOG.
Chuck
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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joe Greco
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:58 PM
To: S
Pay attention to your account because it is still possible to reveal the
passwords
http://sysadminconcombre.blogspot.ca/2015/07/how-to-reveal-windows-10-password.html
and https://twitter.com/pabraeken/status/627493309674573824
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 10:44 AM, wrote:
> 1. Aug 2015 10:05 by n...@
1. Aug 2015 10:05 by n...@foobar.org:
> On 01/08/2015 03:27, Keith Medcalf wrote:
>> It just means that you cannot use the crappy apps or the crappy app store.
>
> which is fine until Microsoft ties in future software upgrades to the app
> store and you find that you can't upgrade without tying y
lliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org]
> Sent: Saturday, 1 August, 2015 06:05
> To: Keith Medcalf; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
> On 01/08/2015 03:27, Keith Medcalf wrote:
> > It just means that you cannot use the crappy apps or the crappy app
> store.
>
>
On 01/08/2015 03:27, Keith Medcalf wrote:
> It just means that you cannot use the crappy apps or the crappy app store.
which is fine until Microsoft ties in future software upgrades to the app
store and you find that you can't upgrade without tying yourself into a
Microsoft account.
E.g. just lik
Mckillican
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org list
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
> Justin,
>
> That's true, but it takes effort for people to either set up a local
> account or change to one, and very few consumers will do that or have.
>
>
> S
I hate to be that guy, but this is getting really outside the scope of
NANOG.
Chuck
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Joe Greco
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 12:58 PM
To: Scott Helms
Cc: NANOG
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
> I was j
> Justin,
>
> That's true, but it takes effort for people to either set up a local
> account or change to one, and very few consumers will do that or have.
Wow, then, problem solved, because it's at least twice as hard to get
your Microsoft Account set up, configured, and verified.
The sticky p
> I was just thinking about my remaining Win 7 box _after_ I hit send and I
> believe you're correct (I have one still to upgrade). Which means users
> upgrading from 7 to 10 will need to create an ID, but users of 8 and 8.1
> will use the one they already have.
This is incorrect. While the Win
Justin,
That's true, but it takes effort for people to either set up a local
account or change to one, and very few consumers will do that or have.
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
-
Nope. For the upgrade the only piece of information MSFT needed was your email
if you chose email notification once the upgrade was ready for you.
After it's installed it will ask to finish up the install the 'Express' method
which enabled a bunch of things like WIFI password sharing to friends
I was just thinking about my remaining Win 7 box _after_ I hit send and I
believe you're correct (I have one still to upgrade). Which means users
upgrading from 7 to 10 will need to create an ID, but users of 8 and 8.1
will use the one they already have.
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
Ave. Westfield MA 01086
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Black
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 10:16 AM
To: North American Network Operators' Group (nanog@nanog.org)
Subject: RE: Windows 10 Release
Are users required to create any ty
Just as a point of debate, I've been using Windows 7 for quite some time
and I do not, nor have I ever, given MS any email information or have I
created a Live account.
On 7/30/2015 7:19 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
Since the requirement is that users are upgrading from Win 7, 8, or 8.1
they've alre
Since the requirement is that users are upgrading from Win 7, 8, or 8.1
they've already had to create at least a minimal MS ID which means either
creating an email account on Outlook.com or providing an existing email
address and a password for MS.
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
Are users required to create any type of Microsoft cloud account (e.g.,
OneDrive, Office365, et alil) in order to install and use Windows 10? Of
Office? Is it possible to simply use Windows 10 without any Microsoft or Google
or Yahoo accounts?
Is the unique identifier available to advertisers
rading and the site says if it is a new installation a product key
> would be needed.
>
> Curtis
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Martin Hotze [mailto:m.ho...@hotze.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:17 AM
> To: STARNES, CURTIS ; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject:
: STARNES, CURTIS ; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: RE: Windows 10 Release
> From: STARNES, CURTIS [mailto:curtis.star...@granburyisd.org]
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 is the
> download URL.
> This site launches the Download Tool so the ISO can be dow
> From: STARNES, CURTIS [mailto:curtis.star...@granburyisd.org]
> https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 is the
> download URL.
> This site launches the Download Tool so the ISO can be downloaded from
> Microsoft.
Yeah, I know. But is it allowed to redistribute the .iso File
, 2015 7:11 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
> From: Joe Greco
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
> > You can download an ISO and burn it to install... Guessing if your
> > upgrading multiple machines, that would be the way to go...
>
> You do
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Hash: SHA256
Not sure about "open public" but you can use that ISO on whatever many
machines your licensed to...
- --Tiernan
On 30/07/2015 13:11, Martin Hotze wrote:
>> From: Joe Greco Subject: Re: Windows 10
>> Release
>>
>
> From: Joe Greco
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
> > You can download an ISO and burn it to install... Guessing if your
> > upgrading multiple machines, that would be the way to go...
>
> You don't even need to burn it to install. Just mount the ISO and
>
> >> http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-July/026136.html
> >
> > Which appears to be about 25% crap, 30% FUD, and the remainder consists
> > of concerns of varying levels of validity.
>
> really? read the legal fine print
>
> https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your
> You can download an ISO and burn it to install... Guessing if your
> upgrading multiple machines, that would be the way to go...
You don't even need to burn it to install. Just mount the ISO and
run setup.exe
... JG
--
Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
>> http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-July/026136.html
>
> Which appears to be about 25% crap, 30% FUD, and the remainder consists
> of concerns of varying levels of validity.
really? read the legal fine print
https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-a
> http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-July/026136.html
Which appears to be about 25% crap, 30% FUD, and the remainder consists
of concerns of varying levels of validity.
For privacy-minded individuals who are not interested in sharing lots
of stuff with Microsoft, there are instal
http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2015-July/026136.html
On 7/29/2015 10:30, frnk...@iname.com wrote:
Some concern expressed here:
http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/windows-10-launch-huge-traffic.html
I have no status above "out-of-work old fart", and it has been a while
since I was engaged in anything bigger than my four-PC, three-wiffy, one
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA256
You can download an ISO and burn it to install... Guessing if your
upgrading multiple machines, that would be the way to go...
- --Tiernan
On 29/07/2015 15:13, Alejandro Acosta wrote:
> El 7/28/2015 a las 4:15 PM, Nick Olsen escribió:
>> Anyone anx
'QoS problems are to be expected' . Uh?
Don't you put QoS into place just to ensure that the minimum bandwidth you need
to ensure critical services (such that your voice traffic is not impeded for
example) are NOT affected across your WAN links when there are big globs of
data banging around?
S
Some concern expressed here:
http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2015/07/windows-10-launch-huge-traffic.html
Frank
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Nick Olsen
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 3:45 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Windows 10 Release
El 7/28/2015 a las 4:15 PM, Nick Olsen escribió:
> Anyone anxious to see what kind of traffic comes from Windows 10 releasing
> tomorrow?
>
> Being a 3-4GB download. Each device is moving more data than any Apple
> update ever did.
Wow, to download 3-4 GB in a developing country (like mine -
On 7/29/2015 07:32, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 7/29/2015 07:20, Scott Helms wrote:
It's downloading for me right now, though I did reserve my slot.
When I checked a few minutes ago it said my PC had passed the tests--now
it says it is downloading.
Speed and responsiveness "feels" normal.
Scre
On 7/29/2015 07:20, Scott Helms wrote:
It's downloading for me right now, though I did reserve my slot.
When I checked a few minutes ago it said my PC had passed the tests--now
it says it is downloading.
Speed and responsiveness "feels" normal.
--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juven
On 7/29/2015 06:58, STARNES, CURTIS wrote:
I see that everyone can download Windows 10 this morning!
There goes my bandwidth.
Just checked this PC--apparently I already have it and am "good to go".
I was expecting an email or something.
--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)
4.0gb in 10mins using home fttc is not bad :)
Colin
> On 29 Jul 2015, at 13:20, Scott Helms wrote:
>
> It's downloading for me right now, though I did reserve my slot.
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
>
> http://twitte
On 7/29/2015 06:58, STARNES, CURTIS wrote:
I see that everyone can download Windows 10 this morning!
There goes my bandwidth.
One of us does not understand how "they" said it was going to be done.
--
sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes? (Juvenal)
It's downloading for me right now, though I did reserve my slot.
Scott Helms
Vice President of Technology
ZCorum
(678) 507-5000
http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Justin Mckillican wrote:
> For upgra
...@flhsi.com; nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
For upgraders I believe only 5 million 'Insiders' that tested Windows 10 will
get it tomorrow. The rest of the free upgraders (those from Win7 and Win8)
will get it over the next two weeks at different times with th
On 7/28/2015 15:45, Nick Olsen wrote:
Wonder if they'll stage the release as apple appeared to have learned
after IOS7 hammered a bunch of networks.
Everything I have gotten for my personal machines suggests that it may
be months before "my" copies are released.
--
sed quis custodiet ip
r ; nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
> Microsoft tells me 3.2 GB for win 10 pro 64 bit.
>
>> On July 28, 2015 6:04:04 PM EDT, Niels Bakker wrote:
>> * n...@flhsi.com (Nick Olsen) [Tue 28 Jul 2015, 22:46 CEST]:
>>> Being a 3-4GB download. Each
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2943954/microsoft-windows/microsoft-confirms-waves-roll-out-of-windows-10.html
On 7/28/15, 1:45 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Nick Olsen" wrote:
>Anyone anxious to see what kind of traffic comes from Windows 10 releasing
>tomorrow?
>
> Being a 3-4GB download
For upgraders I believe only 5 million 'Insiders' that tested Windows 10 will
get it tomorrow. The rest of the free upgraders (those from Win7 and Win8)
will get it over the next two weeks at different times with the priority going
to those that 'reserved' it in Windows Update tool.
-justin
: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 7:09:52 PM
Subject: RE: Windows 10 Release
Does anyone know if Microsoft will be hosting the downloads from there ASN 8075
or from an CDN Provider like Akamai?
-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Curtis Maurand
Sent:
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
Microsoft tells me 3.2 GB for win 10 pro 64 bit.
On July 28, 2015 6:04:04 PM EDT, Niels Bakker wrote:
>* n...@flhsi.com (Nick Olsen) [Tue 28 Jul 2015, 22:46 CEST]:
>>Being a 3-4GB download. Each device is moving more data than any Apple
>
>>update ev
Microsoft tells me 3.2 GB for win 10 pro 64 bit.
On July 28, 2015 6:04:04 PM EDT, Niels Bakker wrote:
>* n...@flhsi.com (Nick Olsen) [Tue 28 Jul 2015, 22:46 CEST]:
>>Being a 3-4GB download. Each device is moving more data than any Apple
>
>>update ever did.
>
>I'm not so sure of that. The 10.9 i
On 7/28/2015 16:45, Nick Olsen wrote:
> Anyone anxious to see what kind of traffic comes from Windows 10 releasing
> tomorrow?
>
> Being a 3-4GB download. Each device is moving more data than any Apple
> update ever did.
>
> Wonder if they'll stage the release as apple appeared to have le
Hi,
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Nick Olsen wrote:
>
> Anyone anxious to see what kind of traffic comes from Windows 10 releasing
> tomorrow?
>
> Being a 3-4GB download. Each device is moving more data than any Apple
> update ever did.
>
> Wonder if they'll stage the release as apple appear
* n...@flhsi.com (Nick Olsen) [Tue 28 Jul 2015, 22:46 CEST]:
Being a 3-4GB download. Each device is moving more data than any Apple
update ever did.
I'm not so sure of that. The 10.9 install image clocked in at 4.9 GB,
and the Mac App Store for 10.10 Yosemite says "Size: 5.67 GB";
http://www
> Good to know.
>
> I was one of those insiders, And it's running on my laptop currently. It
> got the 10240 build a bit ago. Which removed the "insider preview" water
> marks, And appears to be the full release version.. So it would appear the
> "insiders" already have it. Or the ability to get
Or the ability to get it.
Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
From: "Justin Mckillican"
Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 4:49 PM
To: n...@flhsi.com, "nanog@nanog.org list"
Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
For upgra
Anyone anxious to see what kind of traffic comes from Windows 10 releasing
tomorrow?
Being a 3-4GB download. Each device is moving more data than any Apple
update ever did.
Wonder if they'll stage the release as apple appeared to have learned
after IOS7 hammered a bunch of networks.
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