On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
http://www.coralcdn.org/
Nice, looks very much like the thing I was advocating. Hard part is
getting authorities et al interested in such an "ad hoc" solution.
Preferrably they could do both and then we can see which one works best in
an emergenc
On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:24 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
In a real crisis, redundancy rules.
... and simplicity.
It's always "fun" when those outages pages rely on sql backends etc,
so they're capable of tens or hundreds of users, so they look fin
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
>> In a real crisis, redundancy rules.
>
> ... and simplicity.
>
> It's always "fun" when those outages pages rely on sql backends etc, so
> they're capable of tens or hundreds of users, so the
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
In a real crisis, redundancy rules.
... and simplicity.
It's always "fun" when those outages pages rely on sql backends etc, so
they're capable of tens or hundreds of users, so they look fine normally.
When an outage happens and people really need
On Jul 7, 2009, at 4:03 PM, Marc Manthey wrote:
However it doesn't scale
Anyone who's seen the "fail whale" might argue the same about
Twitter.
Just to add something to this, twitter has been slow all afternoon
and now I am getting the "fail whale"
I just thought I would point out
However it doesn't scale
Anyone who's seen the "fail whale" might argue the same about
Twitter.
Just to add something to this, twitter has been slow all afternoon
and now I am getting the "fail whale"
I just thought I would point out in real time the obvious danger of
using a backup
On Jul 6, 2009, at 11:08 AM, ne...@enginehosting.com wrote:
On Monday, July 6, 2009 10:00am, "Michael Holstein" > said:
However it doesn't scale
Anyone who's seen the "fail whale" might argue the same about
Twitter.
Cheers,
Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
With a past week
On Monday, July 6, 2009 10:00am, "Michael Holstein"
said:
>
>> However it doesn't scale
>
> Anyone who's seen the "fail whale" might argue the same about Twitter.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael Holstein
> Cleveland State University
With a past week of highly visible outages in the data center/pro
However it doesn't scale
Anyone who's seen the "fail whale" might argue the same about Twitter.
Cheers,
Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
How do I configure my router for that?
Router(config)# no ML jibber-jabber
^
% Invalid input detected at 'twitter' marker.
-j
--
Jamie Rishaw // .com.a...@j <- reverse it. ish.
[Impressive C-level Title Here], arpa / arpa labs
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
> In article <4a50acb7.6070...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen <
> mar...@airwire.ie> writes
>
>> Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used
>> for something sensible.
>>
>
> I seem to be trying to find the middle gr
In article <4a50c401.9070...@gmail.com>, JC Dill
writes
Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news
means it can't cope with the traffic.
Really? Um, wow. How big is this school? Is the webserver on an ISDN
line?
It appears to be at a co-location centre in a dist
Diminishing returns?)
- S
-Original Message-
From: JC Dill
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 08:18
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
Roland Perry wrote:
There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage the latest
technology to appea
In article <4a50bb87.8000...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen
writes
Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used
for something sensible.
I seem to be trying to find the middle ground between members of the
public who think "The Internet isn't appropriate because th
any overlap to begin with. Diminishing returns?)
- S
-Original Message-
From: JC Dill
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 08:18
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
Roland Perry wrote:
>> There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage t
Roland Perry wrote:
There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage the latest
technology to appear "cool" and "in tune" with customers, but by far and
large, when something goes down customers either do no nothing, wait, or
call in. I think the best use of everyone's time is to make sur
Roland Perry wrote:
> In article <4a50acb7.6070...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen
> writes
>> Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used
>> for something sensible.
>
> I seem to be trying to find the middle ground between members of the
> public who think "The Intern
In article <4a50acb7.6070...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen
writes
Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used
for something sensible.
I seem to be trying to find the middle ground between members of the
public who think "The Internet isn't appropriate because the
Roland Perry wrote:
> In article <4a50a3c9.3080...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen
> writes
>
>> for those type of notifications, it's perfect, also because it's not
>> part of your own infrastructure.
>
> From an operational resilience point of view, that's a very important
> feature.
It's
In article <4a50a3c9.3080...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen
writes
for those type of notifications, it's perfect, also because it's not
part of your own infrastructure.
From an operational resilience point of view, that's a very important
feature.
--
Roland Perry
In article <20090705113248.gp1...@hezmatt.org>, Matthew Palmer
writes
There are web hosting providers whose 18c/year hosting plans can't handle a
few thousand requests to a static page over a period of maybe 15 minutes
without falling over? The mind boggles.
Apparently so. Of course, they cou
In article , Steve Pirk
writes
It's a High School. They don't have a "support desk" (or more than
handful of phone lines [1]). Even the local radio station can't cope
with one call per school asking them to broadcast the news that they
have closed due to bad weather.
If your resources a
In article <9589b202-ed92-4c49-98ee-eebaa43c8...@americafree.tv>,
Marshall Eubanks writes
as I said before, this is a service that goes down. I would not rely
on it as the only way to communicate.
I'd be proposing it as an additional way to communicate[1], but people
could come to rely upon
In article <20090705101237.gc14...@skywalker.creative.net.au>, Adrian
Chadd writes
Is Twitter making a profit or not?
This discussion about (ab)using a publicly available message system which
isn't currently being charged for would makes me worried^Wamused as hell.
I've seen debates about whe
In article <0d357934-85de-4935-8f58-02f5fcc1d...@americafree.tv>,
Marshall Eubanks writes
I would say this partially would depend on how and what you want to
communicate. If there is just going to be
one pronouncement per day (the school is up / down / delayed), then
facebook and / or myspace
Aleksandr Milewski wrote:
> On 7/4/09 7:50 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>> What I'm trying to anticipate is the objection to *also* posting to
>> Twitter, which might be raised on the grounds that it's too
>> "unofficial", or "unsupported" or something like that.
>
> Anecdotal, of course, but I foun
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 11:01:43AM +0100, Roland Perry wrote:
[snow day notifications]
> Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news means
> it can't cope with the traffic. I don't believe they can justify paying
> more for better web hosting, just to manage this once-a-y
On Jul 5, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
In article <4a4fd58b.2000...@gmail.com>, JC Dill > writes
Even easier, you make an email address on your system that is an
alias to posterous. So they send to "p...@schoolsystem.edu"
which .forwards out to posterous, which posts to the school
sties/services that will die
out in the next year or so.
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Pirk [mailto:or...@pirk.com]
> Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 6:43 AM
> To: Roland Perry
> Cc: na...@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
>
> On
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009, Roland Perry wrote:
There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage the latest
technology to appear "cool" and "in tune" with customers, but by far and
large, when something goes down customers either do no nothing, wait, or
call in. I think the best use of everyone's
Is Twitter making a profit or not?
The other consideration is scalability and reliability. Twitter has
been subject to numerous feature disablements due to capacity
issues, as well as complete outages. Furthermore, Twitter does not
appear to be deployed in a distributed, highly-availab
On Jul 5, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009, Roland Perry wrote:
Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news
means
it can't cope with the traffic. I don't believe they can justify
paying
more for better web hosting, just to manage this once-a
On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote:
Is Twitter making a profit or not?
The other consideration is scalability and reliability. Twitter has
been subject to numerous feature disablements due to capacity issues,
as well as complete outages. Furthermore, Twitter does not appear
In article <4a4fd58b.2000...@gmail.com>, JC Dill
writes
Even easier, you make an email address on your system that is an alias
to posterous. So they send to "p...@schoolsystem.edu" which .forwards
out to posterous, which posts to the school blog, myspace, facebook,
twitter,
It doesn't have
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009, Roland Perry wrote:
> Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news means
> it can't cope with the traffic. I don't believe they can justify paying
> more for better web hosting, just to manage this once-a-year half hour
> event.
Is Twitter making a p
In article <4a4fc4f3.2010...@rollernet.us>, Seth Mattinen
writes
Twitter will attract the "what's cool right now" demographic.
But has it gone from "cool" to "useful" (for this kind of application),
in a way that Facebook and other such sites haven't?
I remember an employer of mine when I w
In article
aatbsgaabauldg0ewkrsz9bd0db8+e2aqaaa...@iname.com>, Frank Bulk
writes
When the local power companies uses twitter, then maybe I'll consider using
twitter for our customers.
That's a poor example as far as the UK's concerned. You can't get
information from the power company for
- Original Message -
From: "Frank Bulk"
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Using twitter as an outage notification
When the local power companies uses twitter, then maybe I'll consider using
twitter for our customers.
There's the temptation by
>-Original Message-
>From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnk...@iname.com]
>Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 4:51 PM
>To: 'JC Dill'
>Cc: na...@merit.edu
>Subject: RE: Using twitter as an outage notification
>
>So does twitter address the mass public,
[TLB:]
The
ation. I think you mentioned that yourself a few posts ago. =)
Frank
-Original Message-
From: JC Dill [mailto:jcdill.li...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 5:20 PM
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
Roland Perry wrote:
> In article <4a4f6e
For DR issues (among many others, of course) think of Twitter as a paging
system of global proportions: not a lot to be said, but if you get the
message right its broadcast and amplification capabilities are unmatched.
--
***Stefan
http://twitter.com/netfortius
On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 5:19 PM, JC
Roland Perry wrote:
In article <4a4f6ef5.9030...@gmail.com>, JC Dill
writes
What I'm trying to anticipate is the objection to *also* posting to
Twitter, which might be raised on the grounds that it's too
"unofficial", or "unsupported" or something like that.
Anyone who makes that argument
Why aren't you all out getting drunk like me?? ;)
- Original Message -
From: Mark E. Mallett
To: Frank Bulk
Cc: na...@merit.edu
Sent: Sat Jul 04 13:12:14 2009
Subject: Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 03:59:48PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote:
>
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 03:59:48PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote:
> When the local power companies uses twitter, then maybe I'll consider using
> twitter for our customers.
During the ice storm we had here last winter, the local power
company did just that. "psnh" "ice storm" "twitter" etc are all
good
On 7/4/09 7:50 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
What I'm trying to anticipate is the objection to *also* posting to
Twitter, which might be raised on the grounds that it's too
"unofficial", or "unsupported" or something like that.
Anecdotal, of course, but I found twitter to be very useful during the
Frank Bulk wrote:
When the local power companies uses twitter, then maybe I'll consider using
twitter for our customers.
There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage the latest
technology to appear "cool" and "in tune" with customers, but by far and
large, when something goes down cus
that.
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Roland Perry [mailto:li...@internetpolicyagency.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:38 AM
To: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
In article , Chris Hills
writes
That's the kind of "marketing-led" respon
Twitter fall in line after all that.
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Roland Perry [mailto:li...@internetpolicyagency.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 10:38 AM
To: na...@merit.edu
Subject: Re: Using twitter as an outage notification
In article , Chris Hills
writes
>> That's the
In article , Chris Hills
writes
That's the kind of "marketing-led" response I was hoping to hear.
But the UK National Rail system now uses Tweets to tell customers about
disruptions on the trains, and several major UK government departments
and news organisations use it for announcements and "B
Roland Perry wrote:
> In article
> <16720fe00907040747k67ca1206kb871420deb5e8...@mail.gmail.com>, Jeffrey
> Lyon writes
>> Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
>> like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
>> blogspot account would make a lot more
Le samedi 04 juillet 2009 à 16:58 +0200, Michael Hallgren a écrit :
> Le samedi 04 juillet 2009 à 10:47 -0400, Jeffrey Lyon a écrit :
> > Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
> > like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
> > blogspot account would
On 04/07/09 17:07, Roland Perry wrote:
That's the kind of "marketing-led" response I was hoping to hear.
But the UK National Rail system now uses Tweets to tell customers about
disruptions on the trains, and several major UK government departments
and news organisations use it for announcements
In article <4a4f6ef5.9030...@gmail.com>, JC Dill
writes
What I'm trying to anticipate is the objection to *also* posting to
Twitter, which might be raised on the grounds that it's too
"unofficial", or "unsupported" or something like that.
Anyone who makes that argument is just showing how l
In article
<16720fe00907040747k67ca1206kb871420deb5e8...@mail.gmail.com>, Jeffrey
Lyon writes
Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
blogspot account would make a lot more sense.
That's the kind of "ma
Roland Perry wrote:
What I'm trying to anticipate is the objection to *also* posting to
Twitter, which might be raised on the grounds that it's too
"unofficial", or "unsupported" or something like that.
Anyone who makes that argument is just showing how little they know
about Twitter. It wou
Le samedi 04 juillet 2009 à 10:47 -0400, Jeffrey Lyon a écrit :
> Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
> like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
> blogspot account would make a lot more sense.
Yes.
What about (continue to) use old email (inc l
In article <4a4f5e3c.5040...@gmail.com>, JC Dill
writes
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just remaining silent.
I'm about to recommend to an organisation that it [a twitter accou
Personally, I find it difficult to take Twitter seriously. It seems
like more of a kids toy than a business tool. Something like a
blogspot account would make a lot more sense.
Jeff
On 7/4/09, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
>
> On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:17 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
>
>
> > In article
> <78
In article ,
Marshall Eubanks writes
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just remaining silent.
I'm about to recommend to an organisation that it [a twitter account]
is better than
Roland Perry wrote:
In article <786ba8c0-b534-40ff-9126-1e33bd11c...@americafree.tv>,
Marshall Eubanks writes
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just remaining silent.
I'm about to
On Jul 4, 2009, at 6:17 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
In article <786ba8c0-b534-40ff-9126-1e33bd11c...@americafree.tv>,
Marshall Eubanks writes
That's a great idea, use some lame Web 2.0 trend to communicate with
actual real life customers.
I would assume they figured it was better than just re
In article <200907041222.naa23...@sunf10.rd.bbc.co.uk>, Brandon
Butterworth writes
Paying a lot more to host the website with higher "burst" capacity
during an emergency, isn't an option.
The only other idea I've had is to sign all the customers up to receive
an SMS via some sort of broadcast s
> Paying a lot more to host the website with higher "burst" capacity
> during an emergency, isn't an option.
>
> The only other idea I've had is to sign all the customers up to receive
> an SMS via some sort of broadcast service (the news will fit easily in
> one SMS).
If the event is suitably
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