RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-14 Thread John van Oppen
http://spectrumnetworks.us -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:02 AM To: Mike Bartz Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any seri

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread kris foster
Hi everyone The Mailing List Committee would like to remind everyone that threads of this sort are not operationally relevant and go against the spirit of the AUP [1]. Haikus, one line jokes, and "me too" replies simply do not provide enough information for each of NANOG's 10,000 subscriber

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Jack Bates
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jan 12, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Soucy, Ray wrote: We peer with Cogent. They are very competitive in terms of pricing. To be honest, Cogent has been pretty good to us. As long as you have a 2nd peer (which it sounds like you do) for backup I'd say they're a pretty safe b

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
January 12, 2009 12:54 PM To: neal rauhauser Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to at&t, Level 3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Soucy, Ray
61-3526 Communications and Network Services University of Maine System http://www.maine.edu/ -Original Message- From: Mike Bartz [mailto:m...@bartzfamily.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:54 PM To: neal rauhauser Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 I like th

Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0]

2009-01-12 Thread Brandon Galbraith
On 1/12/09, Jim Shankland wrote: > > Adam Young wrote: > >> I wouldn't take my word for it but truthfully, you get what you pay for. >> Given you have other, more reliable transit, adding Cogent may be ok. >> I wouldn't rely on it for anything serious though. >> > > That has not been my experienc

Re: Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0]

2009-01-12 Thread Jim Shankland
Adam Young wrote: I wouldn't take my word for it but truthfully, you get what you pay for. Given you have other, more reliable transit, adding Cogent may be ok. I wouldn't rely on it for anything serious though. That has not been my experience. Peering wars have been an issue, but aside from

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or BtN. Plus if you had direct connectivity to Cogent, their

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Jeffrey Lyon wrote: > Mike, > > Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any > serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also > try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or > BtN. I can second that. For the amount of money t

Cogent Considerations [was: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0]

2009-01-12 Thread Adam Young
Mike Bartz wrote: > I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a > connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to at&t, Level > 3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS number's > seems appealing to us. Every carrier has its issues, so I don't kno

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Aaron Wendel
NANOG has admins They waste a lot of time now Maybe paid to much -Original Message- From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 11:57 AM To: Mike Bartz; neal rauhauser Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Level 3 has gear

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
Mike, Aside from the occasional peering wars i've never had or witnessed any serious issues with Cogent. If you want some redundancy you might also try some other similarly priced providers like WBS Connect, HE, or BtN. Best regards, Jeff On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:54 PM, Mike Bartz wrote: > I

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Ken Simpson
, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 09:41 To: neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net engineers. Poet don't know it. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health ITSD - IP Ne

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Randy Whitney
: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 09:41 To: neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net engineers. Poet don't know it. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health ITSD - IP Ne

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
al Message- From: Mike Bartz [mailto:m...@bartzfamily.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:54 AM To: neal rauhauser Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to at&

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Ray Corbin
Net admins are bored Nanog lists run wild Useless spam blows up phone :) -r -Original Message- From: Jeffrey Lyon [mailto:jeffrey.l...@blacklotus.net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 12:48 PM To: Murphy, Jay, DOH Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0 The XO version: XO is

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Josh Potter
us] > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 09:41 > To: neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org > Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 > > NANOG is too cool. > Rhyming with net engineers. > Poet don't know it. > > > Jay Murphy > IP Network Specialist > NM Department of Health > I

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Mike Bartz
I like the haiku! On a serious note, we are considering getting a connection from Cogent. We currently have connections to at&t, Level 3 and TW Telecom. The low cost and high number of peer AS number's seems appealing to us. Every carrier has its issues, so I don't know what to make of the appa

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
net] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 10:50 AM To: Murphy, Jay, DOH; neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 Customers thank me I will not stoop much lower Pay dirt for transit -Original Message- From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 1

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Darryl Dunkin
Customers thank me I will not stoop much lower Pay dirt for transit -Original Message- From: Murphy, Jay, DOH [mailto:jay.mur...@state.nm.us] Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 09:41 To: neal rauhauser; nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0 NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net

Re: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Jeffrey Lyon
The XO version: XO is low cost The cabinets had no power Service was useless Jeff On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Murphy, Jay, DOH wrote: > NANOG is too cool. > Rhyming with net engineers. > Poet don't know it. > > > Jay Murphy > IP Network Specialist > NM Department of Health > ITSD - IP Net

RE: Cogent Haiku v2.0

2009-01-12 Thread Murphy, Jay, DOH
NANOG is too cool. Rhyming with net engineers. Poet don't know it. Jay Murphy IP Network Specialist NM Department of Health ITSD - IP Network Operations Santa Fe, New Mexico 87502 Bus. Ph.: 505.827.2851 "We move the information that moves your world." -Original Message- From: