On Mon, Jul 8, 2019 at 9:22 AM Tim Wilson
wrote:
> What is the advantages and disadvantages of building your own CDN
(mainly, in USA, Brazil and Australia)? We are running a website and using
CDNs for a while to delivery static content. Few guys brought this question
for a tech review. And I'm cur
On Fri 2018-Apr-06 11:25:12 -0500, Kaiser, Erich wrote:
AS-stats works well for this and its free...
+1
Or see the other recent netflow tools thread[1] for inspiration.
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AS-stats works well for this and its free...
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On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Hugo Slabbert wrote:
> On Fri 2018-Apr-06 09:46:42 -0500, Aaron Gould wrote:
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> Thanks Doug, Kentik sounds familiar, I think I've spoken wi
On Fri 2018-Apr-06 09:46:42 -0500, Aaron Gould wrote:
Thanks Doug, Kentik sounds familiar, I think I've spoken with them at a
conference once or twice... a quick like at their website reminds me that
they focus on ddos and understanding traffic better... not sure how this
applies to the thread
Thanks Anurag, is there anyone on the list from Amazon AWS Cloudfront that can
speak to this ?
“And AWS Cloudfront does has the option of edge locations not connected to
their backbone.“
I’m an ISP and have fb fna, nf oca, ggc, and Akamai aanp, … does Amazon AWS
Cloudfront ship servers t
Thanks Doug, Kentik sounds familiar, I think I've spoken with them at a
conference once or twice... a quick like at their website reminds me that
they focus on ddos and understanding traffic better... not sure how this
applies to the thread originated by Russell.
-Aaron
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From: NANOG on behalf of Anurag Bhatia
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 5:31 PM
To: Aaron Gould
Cc: NANOG Mailing List
Subject: Re: CDN-provided caching platforms?
Hi Aaron
I see the Amazon Prime
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> valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:23 AM
> To: Russell Berg
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: CDN-provided caching platforms?
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> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 02:26:24 -, Russell Berg
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Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2018 10:23 AM
To: Russell Berg
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: CDN-provided caching platforms?
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 02:26:24 -, Russell Berg said:
> I was wondering if there are other CDN caching platforms out there we
> should be researching/
Ericsson UDN
https://www.ericsson.com/en/tech-innovation/offerings/udn/service-providers
Gerardo
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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Russell Berg
Sent: lunes, 26 de marzo de 2018 08:26 p. m.
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: CDN-provided caching platfo
On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 02:26:24 -, Russell Berg said:
> I was wondering if there are other CDN caching platforms out there we should
> be researching/deploying?
Does traffic analysis show any other destinations that have enough traffic that
caching might help?
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Wondering the same, but for IXes.
There's an open caching server effort, but open seems to be relative. They
still want you to spend a boatload of money for a box from one of their
vendors. I forget its name at the m
Valve/Steam.
On 03/27/18 02:26 +, Russell Berg wrote:
I work for a regional Midwestern US "Tier 2" ISP that provides both
wholesale and enterprise Internet connectivity. We have caching platforms
in place from the likes of Akamai, Google, Netflix, and Facebook; I was
wondering if there are
Wondering the same, but for IXes.
There's an open caching server effort, but open seems to be relative. They
still want you to spend a boatload of money for a box from one of their
vendors. I forget its name at the moment.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Inte
Mike, you might want to reference this thread -
http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2016-July/thread.html#87147 -
as another data point. LLNW was sending data at levels ~ 10x greater
than my policed DSL user's subscription rates. It seems to me that
either the client or the server TCP stac
Thanks.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
http://www.midwest-ix.com
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To: Mike Hammett
Cc: NANOG
Sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:29:38 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: CDN Overload?
Mike,
I have the
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> I have
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Sent: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:28:17 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: Re: CDN Overload?
I have seen traffic from Microsoft in Europe to
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hen I saw yours.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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catch more platforms.
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From: "Mike Hammett"
To: "NANOG"
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:08:55 AM
Subject: Re: CDN Overloa
:: I have made this into a Google Form to make it easier to
:: track compared to randomly formatted responses on multiple
:: mailing lists, Facebook Groups, etc.
Yeah, because...
but I don't do email like that
why is it hard to read?
it's really hard to read email this way.
because it's o
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Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 9:32:58 AM
Subject: Re: CDN Overload?
It appears all complaints are from SP doing wireless. I am going to go with
a yes and put forth a these that these guys have a common factor somewhere.
It could be equipment from a some popular vendor of wireless o
It appears all complaints are from SP doing wireless. I am going to go with
a yes and put forth a these that these guys have a common factor somewhere.
It could be equipment from a some popular vendor of wireless or maybe some
common method to throttle that is popular in the wireless community.
I
https://goo.gl/forms/LvgFRsMdNdI8E9HF3
I have made this into a Google Form to make it easier to track compared to
randomly formatted responses on multiple mailing lists, Facebook Groups, etc.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WIS
That's interesting.
Once, a few years/jobs/etc ago, I observed a flow from mobile youtube being
really really bursty, peaking to a 40-50mbps on a 10mbps circuit, but that was
the only time I've ever seen such an issue. After that one flow died, it never
happened again.
That aside, I do work fo
With so many geographically diverse complaints on many hardware routing and
switching platforms, I'm going to go with a "no".
On Sep 21, 2016 4:04 AM, "Baldur Norddahl"
wrote:
> How come we have never seen this problem? We have a ton of DSL and many of
> those are slow, but no customer complaint
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 4:02:30 AM
Subject: Re: CDN Overload?
How come we have never seen this problem? We have a ton of DSL and many
of those are slow, but no customer complaints about overloaded lines
from CDN networks.
Could it be that the way you throttle the ba
How come we have never seen this problem? We have a ton of DSL and many
of those are slow, but no customer complaints about overloaded lines
from CDN networks.
Could it be that the way you throttle the bandwidth is defect? It is
easy to blame the other guy but could it be that you are doing it
* Jon Lewis:
> This is kind of a funny problem though, because CDNs get paid to
> deliver data, and they get compared/graded according to who can
> deliver the bits the fastest...and here you are complaining that
> they're delivering the bits too fast (or at least faster than you'd
> like them to)
This is what I'm asking of them:
=
Have you seen a CDN overloading a customer? Help me gather information on the
issue.
What CDN?
What have you identified the traffic to be?
What is the access network?
Where is the rate limiting done?
How is the rate limiting done (policing vs. queue
esday, September 20, 2016 2:44:24 AM
Subject: Re: CDN Overload?
On 20 Sep 2016 9:14 am, "George Skorup" wrote:
>
> Now lets move the Windows 10 updates. A 'buried in the sticks' customer
on Canopy 900 FSK. 1.5Mbps/384k. Multiple streams from Microsoft and LLNW
at
On 20 Sep 2016 9:14 am, "George Skorup" wrote:
>
> Now lets move the Windows 10 updates. A 'buried in the sticks' customer
on Canopy 900 FSK. 1.5Mbps/384k. Multiple streams from Microsoft and LLNW
at the same time. LLNW alone had maybe 10 streams going and was sending at
over 15Mbps on average a
I have witnessed this issue first hand for several years. Four for sure,
maybe five or six. The very first one I remember is a customer doing
Usenet downloads and using what he called an "internet download manager"
which I assumed was screwing with TCP ACKs. I believe he was a 4Mbps
user at the
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/06/08/is_win_10_ignoring_sysadmins_qos_settings/
This explains the recent situations (well, not really an explanation, but a bit
more information from other people). Not so much for the ones going back a year
or two.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Compu
On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, Mike Hammett wrote:
The principal complaint is that upstream of whatever is doing the rate
limiting for a given customer there is significantly more capacity being
utilized than the customer has purchased. This could happen briefly as
TCP adjusts to the capacity limitation
> On Sep 19, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> These situations effectively shut out all other Internet traffic to that
> customer or even portion of the network for low capacity NLOS areas
I think the growing gap between those with high speed links and so-called
slower links will be
Hi Laurent,
We regularly have people run 50-150 person events with everyone sharing a
single external IP and have minimal issues. Our biggest events are League of
Legends tournaments and I believe those are streamed on Twitch. I don't
think you are going to have a problem, but feel free to hit me
Hey Laurent,
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 3:27 AM, Laurent Dumont
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are running a small-ish LAN event in Toronto where we have to use a
> single IP address to NAT between 250-350 players. I have been made aware of
> possible issues with different services like Steam, Origin and Twit
You can always bring up an HE IPv6 tunnel and hand out public IPs that way.
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On Wed, Apr 20, 2016 at 7:27 PM, Laurent Dumont
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> We are running a small-ish LAN event in Toronto where we have to use a
> single IP address to NAT be
It really depends on how stupid the nat device is. If the mappings are
global you're looking at about 200 per user, if they aren't you're no
where near an issue.
Either way you're likely fine unless everyone tries to torrent at once
On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 9:07 AM, Steve Mikulasik
wrote:
> I do
I do the network for a few lan parties. Last year we had 400+ people on 3 IPs
and didn't have any issues. I don't think those services are that picky anymore
since the rise of CGN.
Just a side thing, but my advice is to look into setting up a lancache server
for Steam.
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On 19/Dec/15 19:44, joel jaeggli wrote:
> > > in general people who want to serve bits to your customers are
going to > be a little less coy about where there assets are. in
particular the CDN > bits are interested in peering nearer to your
regio
On 12/19/15 8:16 AM, Mehmet Akcin wrote:
> I don’t think anyone really would tell where their critical network assets
> are but obviously you can guesstimate by looking where they have connection
> points available.
in general people who want to serve bits to your customers are going to
be a lit
Hello,
I believe Microsoft does that too, even if it's not explicitly written :
http://www.microsoft.com/Peering/Caching
Best regards.
> Le 19 déc. 2015 à 17:13, Patrick W. Gilmore a écrit :
>
> PeeringDB will tell you where they connect. I do not think anyone puts stuff
> into PeeringDB w
I think we both agree there is no perfect publication of where their servers
actually are
Given Ahmed is asking "Does anyone know if AWS amazon “cloudfront”, cloud
flare, Microsoft … etc, hosting their servers on other party providers?”
i think the answer you given which is
>>>
>>> In genera
I do not follow the logic.
If a CDN says they have a gigantic peering node in DC, how does that tell you
where they put on-net servers?
Wouldn’t it make more sense to put servers on-net in OKC or SLC because they do
_NOT_ have large peering nodes there? Locality is important. Akamai has
thousa
I don’t think anyone really would tell where their critical network assets are
but obviously you can guesstimate by looking where they have connection points
available.
> On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>
> PeeringDB will tell you where they connect. I do not think anyon
PeeringDB will tell you where they connect. I do not think anyone puts stuff
into PeeringDB when they have on-net nodes.
In general, only the big three (Akamai, Netflix, Google) have significant
deployments inside eyeball networks. Exceptions to every rule and all that, but
if you pick random l
looking at peeringdb -- http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=16509 might
give you an idea where they are.
mehmet
On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Ahmed Munaf
wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Does anyone know if AWS amazon “cloudfront”, cloud flare, Microsoft … etc,
> hosting their servers on other party
ge
> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore"
> Date: 11/16/2013 4:10 PM (GMT-09:00)
> To: NANOG list
> Subject: Re: CDN node locations
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2013, at 19:36 , Jay Ashworth wrote:
>
> >> Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather &am
U.. So who gets to field the Akamai questions now? ;)
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Date: 11/16/2013 4:10 PM (GMT-09:00)
To: NANOG list
Subject: Re: CDN node locations
On Nov 16, 2013, at 19:36 , Jay Ashwo
if you had no choice in the
matter.
Phil
From: Jay Ashworth
Date: Saturday, November 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM
To: Phil Bedard , NANOG
Subject: Re: CDN node locations
Maybe, but I don't use their proxies, I've overriden them for speed.
Phil Bedard wrote:
> On 11/16/13, 7:36 PM, "
Maybe, but I don't use their proxies, I've overriden them for speed.
Phil Bedard wrote:
>On 11/16/13, 7:36 PM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>
>
>>> Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather &
>maintain
>>> without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally
>thousands
>>> of
On 11/16/13, 7:36 PM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote:
>> Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather & maintain
>> without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally thousands
>> of them, most do not serve the entire Internet, and they change
>> frequently. And before you ask, I k
On Nov 16, 2013, at 19:36 , Jay Ashworth wrote:
>> Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather & maintain
>> without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally thousands
>> of them, most do not serve the entire Internet, and they change
>> frequently. And before you ask,
Djamel,
If you are looking for a CDN log trace to do academic research work on say,
caching algorithms, please be straightforward about your needs and someone
(including myself) might be able to help.
If your purposes are commercial, asking for free data won't likely get you far.
If you're tr
Hi Djamel,
I'm not sure what you are looking for.
There is variety of CDN content and popularity is being driven by users
and designers.
If you have CDN that serves pictures, you get most hits on "design
pictures", for paid VoD, you get most hits on free trailers. For CatchTV
tup you get mos
Hi Pete,
I do not use a CDN I am only interested in analyzing content popularity in
logs. These could be anonymized.
Djamel
On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Pete Mastin wrote:
> Hi djamel. If I understand your question - you should take a look at what
> sawmill offers. Many of our clients u
On Thu, Nov 17, 2011 at 3:30 PM, John Bell wrote:
> I am in the process of scouting for CDN node
> locations for content delivery to end users in the US. Currently looking
> at Seattle, Los Angeles, Dallas, Chicago, Miami and New York.
Hi John,
Add Northern Virginia to the list. Then move it to
Hi John,
Take a look at -
http://as7018.peeringdb.com
http://as701.peeringdb.com
http://as7922.peeringdb.com
http://as7843.peeringdb.com
http://as22773.peeringdb.com
http://as20115.peeringdb.com
Most list interconnect locations, others have policy pointers which
list cities of interest. Cheers,
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