I think we both agree there is no perfect publication of where their servers actually are
Given Ahmed is asking "Does anyone know if AWS amazon “cloudfront”, cloud flare, Microsoft … etc, hosting their servers on other party providers?” i think the answer you given which is >>> >>> In general, only the big three (Akamai, Netflix, Google) have significant >>> deployments inside eyeball networks. Exceptions to every rule and all that, >>> but if you pick random large eyeball network, chances are very, very high >>> they have no one other than those three - if they have any at all. good one Mehmet > On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:27 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> wrote: > > I do not follow the logic. > > If a CDN says they have a gigantic peering node in DC, how does that tell you > where they put on-net servers? > > Wouldn’t it make more sense to put servers on-net in OKC or SLC because they > do _NOT_ have large peering nodes there? Locality is important. Akamai has > thousands of nodes in a hundred or so countries. While they have a lot of > peering, I have trouble thinking their nodes are all next to large IXPs. (OK, > I know they are not, but let’s not get into that.) Plus this seems very US/EU > centric. What about places without a lot large IXPs, like South America, > Africa, South-East Asia, etc.? > > Finally, your logic seems a bit self-contradictory: “They won’t tell you > where their big network nodes are. But if you look in this free, public > database, you can find their big network nodes." > > -- > TTFN, > patrick > >> On Dec 19, 2015, at 11:16 AM, Mehmet Akcin <meh...@akcin.net> wrote: >> >> I don’t think anyone really would tell where their critical network assets >> are but obviously you can guesstimate by looking where they have connection >> points available. >> >>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 8:13 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patr...@ianai.net> wrote: >>> >>> PeeringDB will tell you where they connect. I do not think anyone puts >>> stuff into PeeringDB when they have on-net nodes. >>> >>> In general, only the big three (Akamai, Netflix, Google) have significant >>> deployments inside eyeball networks. Exceptions to every rule and all that, >>> but if you pick random large eyeball network, chances are very, very high >>> they have no one other than those three - if they have any at all. >>> >>> -- >>> TTFN, >>> patrick >>> >>>> On Dec 19, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Mehmet Akcin <meh...@akcin.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> looking at peeringdb -- http://www.peeringdb.com/view.php?asn=16509 might >>>> give you an idea where they are. >>>> >>>> mehmet >>>> >>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Ahmed Munaf <ahmed.dala...@hrins.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear All, >>>>> >>>>> Does anyone know if AWS amazon “cloudfront”, cloud flare, Microsoft … etc, >>>>> hosting their servers on other party providers? >>>>> just like what GGC and Akamai do by hosting their servers on other ISP’s >>>>> datacenter! >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> >>> >
