Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-04 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
At least to the extent of providing clear, auditable metrics on change management and SLA, making sure all support and ops cases are actually covered (again, so it can be subject to an audit) etc ... You probably fulfil every single requirement of ITIL already, except for the piles of paperwork re

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-04 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 04 Mar 2012 09:41:58 +0300, Daniel Rohan said: > Is your organization adopting any governance frameworks? I certainly hope not - any organization that needs that many buzzwords in a seven word sentence has probably jumped the shark so far that it needs more than a governance framework to

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Daniel Rohan
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Tarig Adam wrote: > I am working for a new Small ISP and we are trying to establish a > center for receiving technical calls and inquires from customers and > the technicians in this center may do some basics troubleshooting. > > What is the suitable title for thi

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Randy Bush
> The focus needs to be on providing the customer enough self help > tools, wikis, user forums, email support, IVR .. before they even need > to phone your helpdesk and have a human open or work a ticket for > them. i might toss in "a solid reliable working service" randy

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
A newsgroup I used to read a decade back used to call it "helldesk" But seriously, live humans with whatever location or accent, answering an actual phone, are the costliest sort of ticket an ISP has to handle. The focus needs to be on providing the customer enough self help tools, wikis, user fo

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Brett Lykins
At a Small-to-Medium ISP I worked for, they went through structuring changes like this all the time. But the following seems to be the best setup: First was "Customer Support" which dealt with billing and basic instruction (setup mail clients, reset passwords, etc). Second tier was "Customer D

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread JoeSox
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 7:34 AM, wrote: > Which is OK, if that's your business model.  I know a few small ISPs that > are making a comfortable living selling repackaged DSL plus handholding. > In the case I was thinking of, a small Techsupport group answering questions about 'How does my customer

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Jeff Kell
On 3/3/2012 11:48 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > Touche! > > Being in South Florida, (heavy Latin & Spanish accents) and having > customers in Alabama, Tennessee (Heavy Southern accents) etc, we have > had to "Tune" our ears as well as our Accents, including carefully > choosing our words... Ye

RE: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread George Bonser
> -Original Message- > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2012 7:58 AM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk > > > > Especially if a human answers promptly without a horrible accent... > > >

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Funny u mentioned Charter, had to call in a support ticket to them this morning. ( Cable down, due to yesterday's nasty storms). Having no accent is always preferred, but not possible. And as to Automated service... we see two kinds of folks... Ones who have a preference for self service, and

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Touche! Being in South Florida, (heavy Latin & Spanish accents) and having customers in Alabama, Tennessee (Heavy Southern accents) etc, we have had to "Tune" our ears as well as our Accents, including carefully choosing our words... It is not uncommon for us to have a new support Re

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Jeff Kell
On 3/3/2012 10:57 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: > >> Especially if a human answers promptly without a horrible accent... >> >> Jeff > Like a heavy Southern Drawl ? Oh yeah, y'all :) The major point was a "human" answering, at least my home ISP (Charter) has this unbearable voice response... in annoyin

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Dave Pooser
On 3/3/12 9:57 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" wrote: >>Especially if a human answers promptly without a horrible accent... >> >>Jeff >Like a heavy Southern Drawl ? Saah, Ah resemble that remahk! :^) I think no matter where you're located, having a tech support rep who speaks your language with an accent

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Especially if a human answers promptly without a horrible accent... Jeff Like a heavy Southern Drawl ? :) Hope you realize that this list a Global list, and not everyone is talking about "US Only". Cheers, Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet& Telecom

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Jeff Kell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 3/3/2012 10:34 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:04:52 PST, JoeSox said: >> Go with 'Technical Support' unless you want to take all sorts of calls >> with end users wanting help on operational training issues. >> THIS DOE

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sat, 03 Mar 2012 07:04:52 PST, JoeSox said: > Go with 'Technical Support' unless you want to take all sorts of calls > with end users wanting help on operational training issues. > THIS DOES HAPPEN! Which is OK, if that's your business model. I know a few small ISPs that are making a comfortab

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread JoeSox
Go with 'Technical Support' unless you want to take all sorts of calls with end users wanting help on operational training issues. THIS DOES HAPPEN! -- Thanks, Joe On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:56 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Tarig Adam wrote: >> I am working for a ne

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread William Herrin
On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Tarig Adam wrote: > I am working for a new Small ISP and we are trying to establish a > center for receiving technical calls and inquires from customers and > the technicians in this center may do some basics troubleshooting. > > What is the suitable title for this

Re: which one a Technical Support or Help Desk

2012-03-03 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
You can always call it HelpDesk/Technical Support They both mean the same thing, but create a different feeling in the minds of the customers. Helpdesk is typically perceived to be gentler (more informal / more flexible) providing support on a wider range of technical issues. Technical Support