On 12/28/24 00:31, Mike Hammett wrote:
*nods* for PtP, I agree. As a buyer (and a seller) waves, waves,
waves. As a seller, it's less stuff for me to manage. As a buyer, I
don't have to trust you on oversubscribing a wave because you can't.
You can oversubscribe the hell out of an Ethernet
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 10:28:02 AM
Subject: Re: MPLS and Carrier Ethernet, Oh My!
These days, it's a LOT easier to get dedicated ethernet wave service between A
and Z than it used to be. The pseudowire options were developed to fill that
gap that customers wanted.
Still certa
On 12/27/24 18:28, Tom Beecher wrote:
These days, it's a LOT easier to get dedicated ethernet wave service
between A and Z than it used to be. The pseudowire options were
developed to fill that gap that customers wanted.
Still certainly use cases for it, but generally the dedicated waves
These days, it's a LOT easier to get dedicated ethernet wave service
between A and Z than it used to be. The pseudowire options were developed
to fill that gap that customers wanted.
Still certainly use cases for it, but generally the dedicated waves are
much easier to get and probably cheaper. Th
The average subscriber consumes 1.5Mbps in a busy hour (even for the GE
access). 100GE is 60k subscribers.
Many access regions just do not have enough subscribers to justify 100GE.
Some regions have.
Ed/
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Mike Hammett
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 05:35
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Subje
On 12/27/24 09:21, Mike Hammett wrote:
It seems like the bulk of the responses are assuming a point-to-point service.
What about aggregation of smaller services? I don't necessarily mean
aggregation of hundreds of sub 1 gig circuits, but when you need more than 10
gig, your next step is ne
On 12/27/24 05:27, Edwin Mallette wrote:
They’re out there. I’ve helped stand up carriers recently that sell
them and have also bought such service from other carriers. At least
for 100G.
I haven’t seen 400G Ethernet point to point services but also have not
been asked to engineer to s
It seems like the bulk of the responses are assuming a point-to-point service.
What about aggregation of smaller services? I don't necessarily mean
aggregation of hundreds of sub 1 gig circuits, but when you need more than 10
gig, your next step is needing a hundred, even if it's far away. You c
On 12/27/24 04:34, Mike Hammett wrote:
A few years back, every Tom, Dick, and Harry was touting MPLS or
Carrier Ethernet NNIs with 10G ports everywhere. They still are.
However, I rarely have seen that graduate to 100G ports and I don't
think I've seen anyone talk about 400G ports.
Is the
On 12/27/24 05:15, Jason Bothe via NANOG wrote:
I’m thinking there is not a a wide market for them, not to mention
last mile support. Folks that need 100 or 400 ports typically want
point to point and at that juncture, wavelength or IPoDWDM makes sense
as more than likely these are going b
Carrier Ethernet, Oh My!
Since 2023, we’ve (GVTC) been migrating our CBH MTSO handoffs and partner
ENNI’s from 1g/10g to 100g. …moving off older ME3600’s, ASR9k’s and ACX5048’s,
to newer MX series (204,304,240,480,960)
Aaron
On Dec 26, 2024, at 8:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
A few years
Since 2023, we’ve (GVTC) been migrating our CBH MTSO handoffs and partner ENNI’s from 1g/10g to 100g. …moving off older ME3600’s, ASR9k’s and ACX5048’s, to newer MX series (204,304,240,480,960)AaronOn Dec 26, 2024, at 8:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:A few years back, every Tom, Dick, and Harry was t
I’m thinking there is not a a wide market for them, not to mention last mile support. Folks that need 100 or 400 ports typically want point to point and at that juncture, wavelength or IPoDWDM makes sense as more than likely these are going between data centers and not to your average enterprise pr
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