They’re out there.  I’ve helped stand up carriers recently that sell them and 
have also bought such service from other carriers.  At least for 100G.

I haven’t seen 400G Ethernet point to point services but also have not been 
asked to engineer to sell them either so I suspect that demand is either soft 
or the majority that want 400G point to point today are as Aaron says electing 
to serve that need via alternate solutions .

Ed
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From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+edwin.mallette=gmail....@nanog.org> on behalf of 
Aaron1 <aar...@gvtc.com>
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2024 10:17:31 AM
To: Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: MPLS and Carrier Ethernet, Oh My!

Since 2023, we’ve (GVTC) been migrating our CBH MTSO handoffs and partner 
ENNI’s from 1g/10g to 100g.  …moving off older ME3600’s, ASR9k’s and ACX5048’s, 
to newer MX series (204,304,240,480,960)

Aaron

On Dec 26, 2024, at 8:35 PM, Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote:


A few years back, every Tom, Dick, and Harry was touting MPLS or Carrier 
Ethernet NNIs with 10G ports everywhere. They still are. However, I rarely have 
seen that graduate to 100G ports and I don't think I've seen anyone talk about 
400G ports.

Is the hardware not there, or is it more a case of the technology hasn't been 
deployed widely, so it'll only be seen at a limited number of locations? I'm 
assuming it's more of the latter as the bigger hardware I've been looking at 
touts those features and port sizes, but maybe there's some other unadvertised 
limitation.



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