6, 2023 1:30:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps
> But it already is publicly available to someone that's interested enough via
> the
> permits issued by the appropriate jurisdictions or if you put in 811 design
> stage tickets.
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ot;William Herrin"
To: "Tom Beecher"
Cc: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG"
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:33:25 PM
Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> My experience with maps over the last decade tells
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM Tom Beecher wrote:
> My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most vendors
> don't actually know where they are. :)
So true. And not that young a problem. I leased some dark fiber more
than a decade ago. They sent an unexpectedly expensive
x.com
- Original Message -
From: "Denis Fondras"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:22:56 PM
Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps
Le Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:17:22AM -0500, Mike Hammett a écrit :
> Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operato
Le Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 11:17:22AM -0500, Mike Hammett a écrit :
> Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously
> offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted
> publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes?
>
There is no small p
t;Mike Hammett"
Cc: "NANOG"
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:01:33 PM
Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps
If it's too hard for me to figure out where you are, you just plain won't get
the sale.
My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even mos
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> If it's too hard for me to figure out where you are, you just plain won't
> get the sale.
My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most
vendors don't actually know where they are. :)
On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 12:18 PM Mike Hammett wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed a tre
The pessimistic (and likely most realistic) take is that enabling
potential customers to do research like that is seen as a missed
opportunity for a sales contact.
-- Original Message --
From "Mike Hammett"
To "NANOG"
Date 10/26/2023 12:17:22
Subject Pulling
Has anyone else noticed a trend of some network operators that previously
offered street-level detailed maps, not only upon request, but also posted
publicly have started to only provide them upon quotes?
Not even the popular online mapping services have current-enough-to-be-useful
maps.
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