and I get how that could be. We had a design. Gave the prints to the contractors. Someone internally verified the contractors built what was on the prints. A year or two goes by and some laterals ended up costing more because handholes on the prints were never built. Our locator goes to a handhole to send his signal and the handhole doesn't exist or finds a handhole in a spot not on the prints. Always fun managing OSP.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Herrin" <b...@herrin.us> To: "Tom Beecher" <beec...@beecher.cc> Cc: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 12:33:25 PM Subject: Re: Pulling of Network Maps On Thu, Oct 26, 2023 at 10:01 AM Tom Beecher <beec...@beecher.cc> wrote: > My experience with maps over the last decade tells me that even most vendors > don't actually know where they are. :) So true. And not that young a problem. I leased some dark fiber more than a decade ago. They sent an unexpectedly expensive build proposal to connect my building. I asked: "Why are you trenching to the manhole down the street instead of the one right outside?" They asked, "what manhole?" Long story short, they dispatched a guy who popped the cover, pumped the water out of the vault and confirmed that they had a location they didn't know about. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin b...@herrin.us https://bill.herrin.us/