Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-07 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > Slashdot, Github etc, still no IPv6 though. ​oddly github has ipv6 being announced from their ASN: AS​36459 | 2620:112:3000::/44 | GITHUB - GitHub, Inc., US

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-07 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Tue, 7 Jun 2016, John Curran wrote: There is a large number of Internet service providers who: Not only ISPs, but also content: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/16/06/05/1744246/distrowatch-finally-adds-support-for-ipv6 "When asked why DistroWatch enabled IPv6 access to their server at thi

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-07 Thread John Curran
On Jun 2, 2016, at 1:38 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I would be surprised if more than 10% - 20% of networks have received > effective marketing on IPv6. > > Look at how many network operators that don't "get" basic network security > alerts like "There is a long since patched vulnerability be

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-06 Thread Mark Tinka
On 7/Jun/16 03:28, Ca By wrote: > > AWS / Cloudfront / Fastly - please have a look at how it is done. I think > Cloudflare already did this. CloudFlare already do. Mark.

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-06 Thread Ca By
On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ca By > > wrote: > > > > > > https://blogs.akamai.com/2016/06/preparing-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks-why-and-how.html > > > > Wherein akamai explains a detailed study showing ipv6 is "well > > over 10%" faster than

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-05 Thread Randy Bush
i just want my mtv. and the normal commercials are bad enough.

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Eygene Ryabinkin
Rubens, good day. Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 01:32:29PM -0300, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ca By wrote: > > > > > https://blogs.akamai.com/2016/06/preparing-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks-why-and-how.html > > > > Wherein akamai explains a detailed study showing ipv6 is "well >

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Hugo Slabbert
On Thu 2016-Jun-02 11:05:54 -0700, Leo Bicknell wrote: Warning: Hat = Enterprise Network Admin Sarcasm = High ... Sadly, I wish all these answers were some sort of carachture of reality, but I think they are too many folks reality. IOW: http://ipv6excuses.com/ / https://twitter.com/

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread John Levine
>responded, "Why not just get more IPv4 addresses? Just go back to >IANA[sic] for more if you don't have enough already." I can't say I'm surprised. Within the past year we've had mail from people here on NANOG who haven't gotten the memo that Network Solutions and Verisign are not the same comp

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Jeff McAdams
On Thu, June 2, 2016 15:45, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Jeff McAdams wrote: >> Yes. I had a member of an account team for a networking vendor express >> extreme skepticism when discussing IP address plans and work I had >> done. When describing why I went with an

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Jeff McAdams wrote: > On Thu, June 2, 2016 13:31, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > >> Yes. > >> > > ​REALLY??? I mean REALLY? people that operate networks haven't haven't > > had beaten into their heads: 1) cgn

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Jeff McAdams
On Thu, June 2, 2016 13:31, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> Yes. >> > ​REALLY??? I mean REALLY? people that operate networks haven't haven't > had beaten into their heads: 1) cgn is expensive > 2) there is no more ipv4 (not large amounts for la

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Ca By
On Thursday, June 2, 2016, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett > wrote: > >> do we REALLY think it's still just /marketing problem/ that keeps v6 > >> deployment on the slow-boat? > > Yes. > > I have a confession: I don't use IPv6. > > I don't use IPv6 at home be

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: >> do we REALLY think it's still just /marketing problem/ that keeps v6 >> deployment on the slow-boat? > Yes. I have a confession: I don't use IPv6. I don't use IPv6 at home because: 1. My Verizon FiOS link does not support IPv6. 2. My Cox Ca

IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Ca By
On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Ca By wrote: > >> >> >> On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Christopher Morrow >> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Corbe >>> wrote: >>> Maybe we should let people believe that IPv6

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Leo Bicknell
Warning: Hat = Enterprise Network Admin Sarcasm = High In a message written on Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 01:31:43PM -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote: > ​REALLY??? I mean REALLY? people that operate networks haven't haven't had > beaten into their heads: > 1) cgn is expensive Wazzat? Isn't

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Mike Hammett
" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "nanog list" Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 12:31:43 PM Subject: Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: Yes. REALLY??? I mean REALLY? people that operate network

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
-- > > From: "Christopher Morrow" > To: "Daniel Corbe" > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:41:33 AM > Subject: Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4 > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Corbe > wrote: > > > Maybe we should

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Mike Hammett
Yes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Christopher Morrow" To: "Daniel Corbe" Cc: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 11:41:33 AM Subject

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Ca By wrote: > > > On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Christopher Morrow > wrote: > >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Corbe >> wrote: >> >>> Maybe we should let people believe that IPv6 is faster than IPv4 even if >>> objectively that isn’t true. Perhaps th

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Ca By
On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Christopher Morrow wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Corbe > wrote: > >> Maybe we should let people believe that IPv6 is faster than IPv4 even if >> objectively that isn’t true. Perhaps that will help speed along the >> adoption process. > > > ​do we

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Daniel Corbe wrote: > Maybe we should let people believe that IPv6 is faster than IPv4 even if > objectively that isn’t true. Perhaps that will help speed along the > adoption process. ​do we REALLY think it's still just /marketing problem/ that keeps v6 deploy

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Ca By wrote: > > https://blogs.akamai.com/2016/06/preparing-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks-why-and-how.html > > Wherein akamai explains a detailed study showing ipv6 is "well > over 10%" faster than ipv4 on mobile, and they reference corroborating > studies from Li

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Daniel Corbe
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Ca By wrote: > > On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Josh Luthman wrote: > >> Just a thought - ipv4 includes older more rural connections such as 1M DSL >> out in the sticks. That weighs the average connection time down. v6 being >> capable on modern 4G wireless and fib

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Ca By
On Thursday, June 2, 2016, Josh Luthman wrote: > Just a thought - ipv4 includes older more rural connections such as 1M DSL > out in the sticks. That weighs the average connection time down. v6 being > capable on modern 4G wireless and fiber connections makes the average > faster. > > > Akamai,

RE: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Nicholas Warren
CenturyTel in this area provides IPv6 to DSL customers. Thank you, - Nich > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 10:43 AM > To: Christopher Morrow > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject:

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Josh Luthman
Just a thought - ipv4 includes older more rural connections such as 1M DSL out in the sticks. That weighs the average connection time down. v6 being capable on modern 4G wireless and fiber connections makes the average faster. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Ca By wrote: > > https://blogs.akamai.com/2016/06/preparing-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks-why-and-how.html > > Wherein akamai explains a detailed study showing ipv6 is "well > over 10%" faster than ipv4 on mobile, and they reference corroborating > studies from Li

IPv6 is better than ipv4

2016-06-02 Thread Ca By
https://blogs.akamai.com/2016/06/preparing-for-ipv6-only-mobile-networks-why-and-how.html Wherein akamai explains a detailed study showing ipv6 is "well over 10%" faster than ipv4 on mobile, and they reference corroborating studies from Linkedin and Facebook. Fair to ask your business 1) does mob