Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-31 Thread Eric Kuhnke
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Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-31 Thread james.cut...@consultant.com
> On May 31, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Josh Luthman > wrote: > > I think the latency and bps is going to be the best way to measure broadband > everyone can agree on. Is there a better way, sure, but how can you quantify > it? See https://www.waveform.com/tools/buf

Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-31 Thread Denys Fedoryshchenko
s-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - From: "Sean Donelan" To: "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:25:12 PM Subject: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections) I thought in the 1990s, we had moved b

Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-31 Thread Fred Baker
expect policy wonks to get it right? >> >> >> >> - >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> Midwest-IX >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> From: "Sean Donelan" >> To: &

Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-31 Thread Josh Luthman
quot;NANOG" > *Sent: *Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:25:12 PM > *Subject: *Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US > broadband connections) > > > I thought in the 1990s, we had moved beyond using average bps measurements > for IP congestion collapse. During

Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-30 Thread Eric Kuhnke
An interesting question would be to quantify and do statistical analysis on the following: Take a set of 1000 or more residential last mile broadband customers on an effectively more-than-they-can-use connection (symmetric 1Gbps active ethernet or similar). On a 60s interval, retrieve SNMP traffi

Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-30 Thread Mike Hammett
to get it right? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Sean Donelan" To: "NANOG" Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:25:12 PM Subject: Call for academic researchers (Re:

Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-30 Thread Masataka Ohta
Sean Donelan wrote: Have any academic researchers done work on what are the real-world minimum connection requirements for home-schooling, video teams applications, job interview video calls, and network background application noise? The requirement is end-to-end QoS guaranteed connections w

Re: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-29 Thread Etienne-Victor Depasquale
Sean, I can send you tens (10s) of papers on research into QoE for streaming media; some of them form the basis of my own current research, i.e. I'm depending on their validity for my own work to be valid. At this moment in time, I'm unable to digest it for you as it's been a while since I read it

Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US broadband connections)

2021-05-29 Thread Sean Donelan
I thought in the 1990s, we had moved beyond using average bps measurements for IP congestion collapse. During the peering battles, some ISPs used to claim average bps measurements showed no problems. But in reality there were massive packet drops, re-transmits and congestive collapse which