I think the latency and bps is going to be the best way to measure broadband everyone can agree on. Is there a better way, sure, but how can you quantify it?
Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 7:16 AM Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I think that just underscores that the bps of a connection isn't the > end-all, be-all of connection quality. Yes, I'm sure most of us here knew > that. However, many of us here still get distracted by the bps. > > If we can't get it right, how can we expect policy wonks to get it right? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > Midwest-IX > http://www.midwest-ix.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Sean Donelan" <s...@donelan.com> > *To: *"NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> > *Sent: *Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:25:12 PM > *Subject: *Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US > broadband connections) > > > I thought in the 1990s, we had moved beyond using average bps measurements > for IP congestion collapse. During the peering battles, some ISPs used to > claim average bps measurements showed no problems. But in reality there > were massive packet drops, re-transmits and congestive collapse which > didn't show up in simple average bps graphs. > > > Have any academic researchers done work on what are the real-world minimum > connection requirements for home-schooling, video teams applications, job > interview video calls, and network background application noise? > > > During the last year, I've been providing volunteer pandemic home > schooling support for a few primary school teachers in a couple of > different states. Its been tough for pupils on lifeline service (fixed > or mobile), and some pupils were never reached. I found lifeline students > on mobile (i.e. 3G speeds) had trouble using even audio-only group calls, > and the exam proctoring apps often didn't work at all forcing those > students to fail exams unnecessarily. > > In my experience, anecdotal data need some academic researchers, pupils > with at least 5 mbps (real-world measurement) upstream connections at > home didn't seem to have those problems, even though the average bps graph > was less than 1 mbps. > > >
