I would add packet loss rate. Should be zero, and if it isn’t, it points to an underlying problem.
Sent from my iPad > On May 31, 2021, at 11:01 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > > I think the latency and bps is going to be the best way to measure broadband > everyone can agree on. Is there a better way, sure, but how can you quantify > it? > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > >> On Sun, May 30, 2021 at 7:16 AM Mike Hammett <na...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> I think that just underscores that the bps of a connection isn't the >> end-all, be-all of connection quality. Yes, I'm sure most of us here knew >> that. However, many of us here still get distracted by the bps. >> >> If we can't get it right, how can we expect policy wonks to get it right? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> Midwest-IX >> http://www.midwest-ix.com >> >> From: "Sean Donelan" <s...@donelan.com> >> To: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> >> Sent: Saturday, May 29, 2021 6:25:12 PM >> Subject: Call for academic researchers (Re: New minimum speed for US >> broadband connections) >> >> >> I thought in the 1990s, we had moved beyond using average bps measurements >> for IP congestion collapse. During the peering battles, some ISPs used to >> claim average bps measurements showed no problems. But in reality there >> were massive packet drops, re-transmits and congestive collapse which >> didn't show up in simple average bps graphs. >> >> >> Have any academic researchers done work on what are the real-world minimum >> connection requirements for home-schooling, video teams applications, job >> interview video calls, and network background application noise? >> >> >> During the last year, I've been providing volunteer pandemic home >> schooling support for a few primary school teachers in a couple of >> different states. Its been tough for pupils on lifeline service (fixed >> or mobile), and some pupils were never reached. I found lifeline students >> on mobile (i.e. 3G speeds) had trouble using even audio-only group calls, >> and the exam proctoring apps often didn't work at all forcing those >> students to fail exams unnecessarily. >> >> In my experience, anecdotal data need some academic researchers, pupils >> with at least 5 mbps (real-world measurement) upstream connections at >> home didn't seem to have those problems, even though the average bps graph >> was less than 1 mbps. >> >>