Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-23 Thread Ryan Gelobter
; > -- > *From:* NANOG on behalf of Ryan Gelobter < > rya...@atwgpc.net> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:58:36 AM > *To:* Stanislaw > *Cc:* nanog list > *Subject:* Re: Arista unqualified SFP > > Instead of patching the python what h

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-23 Thread Ryan, Spencer
ornetworks.com/> From: NANOG on behalf of Ryan Gelobter Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2016 10:58:36 AM To: Stanislaw Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP Instead of patching the python what happens if you just run 'no errdisable recovery cause xcv

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-23 Thread Ryan Gelobter
Instead of patching the python what happens if you just run 'no errdisable recovery cause xcvr-unsupported' On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 5:24 AM, Stanislaw wrote: > Hi all, > If somebody is following my epic adventure of getting uqualified SFP to > work on Aristas, here is the unhappy end of it. > >

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-20 Thread Tim Jackson
On Aug 18, 2016 7:42 AM, "Nick Hilliard" wrote: > It is always better to clarify this sort of thing with the account > management team before purchasing, and preferably have it in email or > writing. Sometimes you inherit bad situations... The (bad) solution is to program your own optics to matc

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-20 Thread John A. Kilpatrick
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Nick Hilliard wrote: It is always better to clarify this sort of thing with the account management team before purchasing, and preferably have it in email or writing. Exactly. Especially if you already have optics vendors that you like. I would bake that into the eval.

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-19 Thread Eric Kuhnke
I would like to see optics made in a shack in a rain forest, maybe we can find a new market to sell hand made artisanal fair trade organic GMO-free gluten-free lasers. On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:59 PM, Ricky Beam wrote: > On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:05:30 -0400, Tim Jackson > wrote: > >> "As I'm s

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-19 Thread Alain Hebert
Well, Context: Starting with 10Gb the optics are more finicky. Part of that price hike include tech support (1) which you will never get from most OEM vendor. PS: Mine is pretty good. Having dealt with a few optic issues lately: . Why that 10km LR won't work with tha

RE: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-19 Thread Ryan DiRocco
To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP Though it would be really interesting to see, if a company like Cisco or Juniper ever suffered a major data leak, what number of customers really do pay full list price for some stuff. "Yeppers, twenty 1310nm LX 10Gb SFP+ for $4800 ea

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Though it would be really interesting to see, if a company like Cisco or Juniper ever suffered a major data leak, what number of customers really do pay full list price for some stuff. "Yeppers, twenty 1310nm LX 10Gb SFP+ for $4800 each, sounds good. Where do we send the check?" On Thu, Aug 18,

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Ricky Beam
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 08:05:30 -0400, Tim Jackson wrote: "As I'm sure you know, Arista is not the only manufacturer that has made this choice. Unlike our competition, we work to make our optics pricing competitive, but we'll never be as low as the "Taiwan specials" that you see floating around. I

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Stanislaw
Yeah, it is. And yeah, I was considering that option too. Ethan писал 2016-08-18 16:59: I think someone from Arista said... "We are never going to lose an affair due to not supporting 3-d party optics, but we will try to convince the customer to buy our stuff, since that's what we do, we sell

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Ethan
I think someone from Arista said... "We are never going to lose an affair due to not supporting 3-d party optics, but we will try to convince the customer to buy our stuff, since that's what we do, we sell stuff". In these cheap arista switches, filling them with optics (if the optics is from A

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Ryan, Spencer
etworks.com<http://www.arbornetworks.com/> From: NANOG on behalf of Ryan DiRocco Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 9:49:14 AM To: Mikael Abrahamsson; Mark Tinka Cc: nanog list Subject: RE: Arista unqualified SFP If you are running Intel NIC(s) such as the X520-DA2 with 3rd party

RE: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Ryan DiRocco
ocade, without issue. As with any vendor, there is a work around procedure. -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mikael Abrahamsson Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:33 AM To: Mark Tinka Cc: nanog list Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP On Thu, 1

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Denys Fedoryshchenko
's check in the Linux drivers. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" To: "Mark Tinka" Cc: "nanog list" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:32:

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Fredrik Korsbäck
On 18/08/16 14:45, Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 18/Aug/16 14:42, Nick Hilliard wrote: > >> >> It is always better to clarify this sort of thing with the account >> management team before purchasing, and preferably have it in email or >> writing. After that, the best approach is to ask support and

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mike Hammett
t;Mike Hammett" Cc: "NANOG Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:51:13 AM Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP Not a case with Intel X*710 new chipset, check is in firmware. Someone hacked it, but ... On 2016-08-18 15:41, Mike Hammett wrote: > Intel does

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Denys Fedoryshchenko
mmett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" To: "Mark Tinka" Cc: "nanog list" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:32:55 AM Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP On Thu, 18 Aug

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Nick Hilliard
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > Any pointers to how to turn this of on Intel NICs and HP switches? Yes: don't buy Intel NICs or HP switches. Problem solved. Nick

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Aug/16 14:42, Nick Hilliard wrote: > > It is always better to clarify this sort of thing with the account > management team before purchasing, and preferably have it in email or > writing. After that, the best approach is to ask support and/or account > management nicely rather than "bitc

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Nick Hilliard
Tim Jackson wrote: > "As I'm sure you know, Arista is not the only manufacturer that has made > this choice. Unlike our competition, we work to make our optics pricing > competitive, but we'll never be as low as the "Taiwan specials" that you > see floating around. I have another customer that was

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mike Hammett
brahamsson" To: "Mark Tinka" Cc: "nanog list" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:32:55 AM Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Mark Tinka wrote: > All other vendors, explicitly or silently, adopt the same approach. I've heard from peop

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 18 Aug 2016, Mark Tinka wrote: All other vendors, explicitly or silently, adopt the same approach. I've heard from people running Intel NICs and HP switches, that this can't be turned off there. You run into very interesting problems when you're trying to use DAC cables between multi

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
2016-08-18 13:47 GMT+02:00 Mark Tinka : > > > On 18/Aug/16 13:41, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: > > Hello all, > > At my actual job, some colleagues bought Arista switchs very recently. They > asked the question about 3rd party transceivers and their SE told them > exactly what has been said be

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Aug/16 14:05, Tim Jackson wrote: > That's not the answer I got at all from Arista: > > "I understand that Arista TAC indicated that could provide you > with a transceiver unlock code. While it is true that the unlock code > concept exists, it is very unusual for us to unlock optics on >

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Aug/16 13:47, Denys Fedoryshchenko wrote: > Same here, i was considering Arista, because they are quite cost > effective,feature rich, interesting hardware for developing some > custom solutions. But no more, after reading about unreasonable vendor > lock-in. > But such inflexibility are v

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Tim Jackson
> > Your AM team will gladly unlock this for you. > > This is probably just a procedural issue with Arista TAC not knowing the > secret sauce. That's not the answer I got at all from Arista: "I understand that Arista TAC indicated that could provide you with a transceiver unlock code. While it

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Aug/16 13:41, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr wrote: > Hello all, > > At my actual job, some colleagues bought Arista switchs very recently. They > asked the question about 3rd party transceivers and their SE told them > exactly what has been said before : > > "we do accept 3rd party transceiver

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Fredrik Korsbäck
On 18/08/16 13:29, Dovid Bender wrote: > And I was about to jump on to the Arista train. > > Regards, > > Dovid > > -Original Message- > From: Stanislaw > Sender: "NANOG" Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:24:05 > To: nanog list > Subject: R

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Denys Fedoryshchenko
Stanislaw Sender: "NANOG" Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:24:05 To: nanog list Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP Hi all, If somebody is following my epic adventure of getting uqualified SFP to work on Aristas, here is the unhappy end of it. I've written to Arista support and g

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Mark Tinka
On 18/Aug/16 13:29, Dovid Bender wrote: > And I was about to jump on to the Arista train. Your AM team will gladly unlock this for you. This is probably just a procedural issue with Arista TAC not knowing the secret sauce. Mark.

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr
d I was about to jump on to the Arista train. > > Regards, > > Dovid > > -Original Message- > From: Stanislaw > Sender: "NANOG" Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:24:05 > To: nanog list > Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP > > Hi all, > If somebod

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Dovid Bender
And I was about to jump on to the Arista train. Regards, Dovid -Original Message- From: Stanislaw Sender: "NANOG" Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 13:24:05 To: nanog list Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP Hi all, If somebody is following my epic adventure of getting uqualif

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-18 Thread Stanislaw
Hi all, If somebody is following my epic adventure of getting uqualified SFP to work on Aristas, here is the unhappy end of it. I've written to Arista support and got the following dialogue: Support guy: Hi, Thank you for contacting Arista Support. My name is and I'll be assisting you on

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-17 Thread David Hubbard
@nanog.org Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP Yes, email support and ask for the unlock code, they will make you agree that you know that 3rd party optics may explode the switch and it's not their fault. The command they give you will have a key/hash built into it

RE: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-17 Thread Ryan DiRocco
: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:53 PM To: Stanislaw; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Arista unqualified SFP Yes, email support and ask for the unlock code, they will make you agree that you know that 3rd party optics may explode the switch and it's not their fault. The command they give you will

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-17 Thread Stanislaw
Hi Tim, Thanks for your expressive answer. Will try it :) Tim Jackson писал 2016-08-17 22:57: > I'd suggest bitching and moaning at your account team & support until they > give you the key to unlock them.. > > -- > Tim > > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Stanislaw wrote: > >> Hi all

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-17 Thread Eric Litvin
Let me know if you want samples. We can ship today. > On Aug 17, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Stanislaw wrote: > > Hi all, > Is there a way for unlocking off-brand transceivers usage on Arista switches? > > I've got an Arista 7050QX switch with 4.14 EOS version. Then it has been > found out that Arista

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-17 Thread Tim Jackson
I'd suggest bitching and moaning at your account team & support until they give you the key to unlock them.. -- Tim On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 2:50 PM, Stanislaw wrote: > Hi all, > Is there a way for unlocking off-brand transceivers usage on Arista > switches? > > I've got an Arista 7050QX switch

Re: Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-17 Thread Ryan, Spencer
rbornetworks.com<http://www.arbornetworks.com/> From: NANOG on behalf of Stanislaw Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:50:12 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Arista unqualified SFP Hi all, Is there a way for unlocking off-brand transceivers usage on Arista switches? I've

Arista unqualified SFP

2016-08-17 Thread Stanislaw
Hi all, Is there a way for unlocking off-brand transceivers usage on Arista switches? I've got an Arista 7050QX switch with 4.14 EOS version. Then it has been found out that Arista switches seem to not have possibility to unlock off-brand xcievers usage (by some service command or so). I've