Re: IPv6 Subscriber Access Deployments

2015-09-09 Thread Josh Moore
routers and filling up your MAC > tables). > > Owen > >> On Sep 8, 2015, at 12:40 , Josh Moore wrote: >> >> The question becomes manageability. Unique VLAN per customer is not always >> scalable. For example, only ~4000 VLAN tags. What happens when you have mo

RE: IPv6 Subscriber Access Deployments

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Moore
that are different from IPv4? Joshua Moore Network Engineer ATC Broadband 912.632.3161 - O | 912.218.3720 - M -Original Message- From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 3:55 PM To: Josh Moore Cc: Owen DeLong; nanog@nanog.org Su

RE: IPv6 Subscriber Access Deployments

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Moore
DeLong [mailto:o...@delong.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 3:31 PM To: Josh Moore Cc: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 Subscriber Access Deployments Short answer to that is “DHCPv6-PD” Longer answer: Customer’s router should get an address on the external

RE: IPv6 Subscriber Access Deployments

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Moore
| 912.218.3720 - M -Original Message- From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 08, 2015 3:08 PM To: Josh Moore Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 Subscriber Access Deployments On Tue, 08 Sep 2015 19:04:06 -, Josh Moore said: > I'm read

IPv6 Subscriber Access Deployments

2015-09-08 Thread Josh Moore
I'm reading that the recommended method for assigning IPv6 addresses to end-users is to do this via a dedicated VLAN and /64. Some broadband access methods utilize a shared VLAN model with additional security mechanisms in place such as DHCP snooping, source-verify etc. Why wouldn't it be ideal

RE: Debian RWHOIS

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Moore
r Dye [mailto:chris@paragon.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 3:57 PM To: Dan White; Josh Moore Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Debian RWHOIS I'd recommend you use the official RWHOIS project from ARIN. http://projects.arin.net/rwhois/ It will run after compilation on Debian. Christopher D

Debian RWHOIS

2015-07-08 Thread Josh Moore
Hello guys, What do you use for ARIN resource assignments? I am looking to setup a Debian-based RWHOIS server but don't see much information on it. Joshua Moore Network Engineer ATC Broadband 912.632.3161 - O | 912.218.3720 - M

RE: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-06 Thread Josh Moore
You can still carry the v6 NLRIs in MP-BGP though right? Joshua Moore Network Engineer ATC Broadband 912.632.3161 - O | 912.218.3720 - M From: Mel Beckman [mailto:m...@beckman.org] Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 10:49 AM To: andrew Cc: Lee Howard; Josh Moore; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Dual

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
I think the best you can > hope for is that the importance of IPv4 NAT will diminish over time. One day > it will be just a memory, like SNA :) > > -mel beckman > >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Josh Moore wrote: >> >> I was hoping to find a solution that maybe u

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
ote: > > A NAT box is a central point of failure for which the only cure is to not do > NAT. > > You can get clustered NAT boxes (Juniper, for example), but that just makes a > bigger central point of failure. > > Owen > >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 11:49 , Josh Moore wr

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
come back in through NAT gateway A. > > You can build whatever topology you want on either side of that and nothing > says B has to be any where near A. > > Owen > >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 11:25 , Josh Moore wrote: >> >> So basically what you are telling me i

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
work that > joins all of your NATs and you’ll need to have your NATs use unique exterior > address pools. > > Load balancing a single session across multiple NATs isn’t really possible. > > Owne > >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 08:11 , Josh Moore wrote: >> >> P

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
texts, unless you go to the trouble of syncing the > gateways. Most WISPs don't. > > -mel beckman > >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Josh Moore wrote: >> >> So the question is: where do you perform the NAT and how can it be redundant? >> >

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
can run MPLS or EoIP and deliver public IPv4 > /32s to customers willing to pay for them. Otherwise it's private IPv4 and > NAT as usual for IPv4 traffic. > > -mel via cell > >> On Jul 5, 2015, at 6:57 AM, Josh Moore wrote: >> >> We are the ISP and I have

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
Moore Network Engineer ATC Broadband 912.632.3161 On Jul 5, 2015, at 9:55 AM, Mel Beckman wrote: >> >> Josh Moore wrote: >> >> Tunnels behind a CPE and 4to6 NAT seem like bandaid fixes as they do not >> give the benefit of true end to end IPv6 connectivity in the

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-05 Thread Josh Moore
Creating this in a test lab is mandatory for a successful migration. Tunnels behind a CPE and 4to6 NAT seem like bandaid fixes as they do not give the benefit of true end to end IPv6 connectivity in the sense of every device has a one to one global address mapping. Seems that my initial thought

Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-04 Thread Josh Moore
But what is the "best compromise" strategy? Dual stack + CGN? Some kind of intelligent 6to4 NAT? Thanks, Joshua Moore Network Engineer ATC Broadband 912.632.3161 On Jul 4, 2015, at 10:35 PM, Ca By mailto:cb.li...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Saturday, July 4, 2015, Josh M

Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

2015-07-04 Thread Josh Moore
Traditional dual stack deployments implement both IPv4 and IPv6 to the CPE. Consider the following: An ISP is at 90% IPv4 utilization and would like to deploy dual stack with the purpose of allowing their subscriber base to continue to grow regardless of the depletion of the IPv4 space. Current