Re: DNS and subdomains

2025-02-28 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Bill, On Feb 28, 2025, at 12:18 PM, William Herrin wrote: > Remember my example cat.p.dirtside.com? P.dirtside.com is a subdomain > of dirtside.com. It's an administrative grouping of domain names that > have a particular characteristic. However, p.dirtside.com is NOT a > domain name. It has no D

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

2024-11-21 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Hi, >> A business has private or public shareholders or stockholders who once all >> taxes have been deducted on the legal entity's annual revenue or bottomline >> .. the stockholders then enjoys dividends through board resolutions. > You have described one structure of a corporation, but the de

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

2024-11-18 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Hi Lee, On Nov 18, 2024, at 2:46 PM, Howard, Lee via NANOG wrote: > In the same way that phone numbers or radio frequencies are allocated by > geographical monopolies, yes. > Except that the RIRs are *much* more open to participation. And except that telephone numbers and radio frequencies are

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

2024-11-18 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Hi Noah, On Nov 18, 2024, at 1:07 PM, Noah wrote: > Are we trying to imply that the RIR's are a geographic monopoly? Not implying, simply stating a fact. This has been the case explicitly since the RIRs were established. See RFC 1366, section 2.0, 2nd paragraph or, if you prefer, ICP-2, Princi

Re: Shaping the Future of ICP-2: Community Input Extended to December 2024

2024-11-17 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Bill, On Nov 16, 2024, at 10:00 PM, William Herrin wrote: > It seems to me that an RIR should be expected to locate itself in a legal > jurisdiction where they're unlikely to be ordered to alter service that is > within their territory but outside of that legal jurisdiction. Depending on what

Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology

2024-11-16 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Tom, On Nov 15, 2024, at 9:11 AM, Tom Beecher wrote: > However, I think it's an overblown concern. If a government entity has the > courts in their pocket to force an RIR to do a thing, they have the power to > do abou 10 other much easier things that would actually prevent full access > to th

Re: Implementing Decentralized RPKI with Blockchain Technology

2024-11-14 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Tom, Something I’ve been curious about for some time: since deployment of RPKI is (mostly) hosted by the RIRs and ultimately, the RIRs control the validation chain, what would happen if the RIR creates (or, if you prefer, is directed by court order to create) INVALIDs? Regards, -drc > On Nov

Re: who runs the root, Cogent-TATA peering dispute?

2024-05-19 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
Oops. Missed a (significant) word. On May 19, 2024, at 3:02 PM, David Conrad via NANOG wrote: > On May 19, 2024, at 1:12 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: >> Suppose the community wanted to change this or make a formal policy on root >> server hosting requirements. Where would this be

Re: who runs the root, Cogent-TATA peering dispute?

2024-05-19 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
On May 19, 2024, at 1:12 PM, Bryan Fields wrote: > Suppose the community wanted to change this or make a formal policy on root > server hosting requirements. Where would this be done? Could a party submit > a proposal to ICANN via the policy development process? If not where should > the commun

Re: who runs the root, Cogent-TATA peering dispute?

2024-05-19 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
John, On May 19, 2024, at 12:53 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2024, David Conrad wrote: >>> They provide this to Verisign, the Root Zone Maintainer, who create the >>> root zone and distribute it to the root server operators. >> >> Technically, IANA provides database change requests

Re: Cogent-TATA peering dispute?

2024-05-19 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
On May 17, 2024, at 10:14 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote: >> On May 18, 2024, at 02:30, William Herrin wrote: >> So Cogent operates a root server because they bought PSI who ran a >> root server and ICANN has never chosen to throw down the gauntlet. > > As John said, ICANN has nothing to do with who ru

Re: who runs the root, Cogent-TATA peering dispute?

2024-05-19 Thread David Conrad via NANOG
John, On May 17, 2024, at 6:53 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > ICANN as the IANA Functions Operator maintains the database of TLD info. Sort of. > They provide this to Verisign, the Root Zone Maintainer, who create the > root zone and distribute it to the root server operators. Technically, IANA