On 8/15/2016 07:29, Mike Hammett wrote:
Try more facts and less emotion.
I remember a day when I was banned from NANOG of less emotion and lots
more factual content.
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From: "HonorFirst Name Ethics via NANOG"
Red-flag line.
[much snippage has occurred]
A Zay
Exactly, It is unlikely they will ever be able to collect on a debt they do
not have documentation to support but that does not stop them from
disconnecting your service whenever they want. You might have legal recourse
to go after them if they disconnect you but it won’t be fast and it won't
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Try more facts and less emotion.
+1
> From: "HonorFirst Name Ethics via NANOG"
> they relentlessly levied disconnect threats with short timelines
> such as: "if you don't pay us $128,000 by this Friday, we will
> shut your operation down.
That is pretty close to my experience. I would say nearly all carriers have
billing nightmares and some of them have networks that work well. Best
carrier for billing is a bit like asking for the best ice skater in hell.
Steven Naslund
Chicago IL
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* Chris Knipe:
> Although a company that can't manage their book keeping properly, is IMHO
> enough reason to not use them... :-)
Ther used to be a saying that you could choose between carries with
functional billing and carriers with a functional network.
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 11:50 AM, HonorFirst Name Ethics via NANOG
wrote:
> to say "our accounting system does not track invoice details -- it only shows
> the total amount due so your numbers mean nothing to us."
> All the while they relentlessly levied disconnect threats with short
> timeline
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 5:41 PM, wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:26 -0400, Jon Lewis said:
> > Obvious first question would be, have you fallen behind paying your bill?
>
> And if you're in fact up-to-date, make sure you have *proof* of same. It's
> not unheard of for providers to mis-credit y
On Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:26 -0400, Jon Lewis said:
> Obvious first question would be, have you fallen behind paying your bill?
And if you're in fact up-to-date, make sure you have *proof* of same. It's
not unheard of for providers to mis-credit your payments and then think you're
behind. Usually
Obvious first question would be, have you fallen behind paying your bill?
Most service providers will threaten to disrupt your service if you don't
pay for the services they provide.
I would expect you're months behind paying for service before they say:
"if you don't pay us $128,000 by this F
Nope, have not seen any of this bad stuff you speak of.
I can say that over the last few years i have done a ton business with Zayo
and they are top flight in every respect.
On Saturday, August 13, 2016, HonorFirst Name Ethics via NANOG <
nanog@nanog.org> wrote:
> Question to the NANOG communi
Yeah, I see a wall of text, but no real evidence to substantiate it.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
> Try more facts and less emotion.
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> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
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> Midwest Internet Exchange
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> The Brothers WISP
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Try more facts and less emotion.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
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From: "HonorFirst Name Ethics via NANOG"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 11:50:46 AM
Subject: Zayo Extor
Hello,
I cannot see any image in attachment.
If you can ping from outside and not between them, wild guess it's not a
L2 pbm.
Are you able to see the arp of srv2 from srv1 ( and vice-versa )
Without more info ( or it's maybe on the image I cannot see ) I would
look in ACL somewhere/firewall
This one doesn’t peer with your BGP, but sounds pretty close for the rest:
https://github.com/manuelkasper/AS-Stats
> On 15 Aug 2016, at 10:40, Randy Bush wrote:
>
> my poor memory says that, some years back, someone announced or
> mentioned an open tool which i, a small isp, could feed my netf
Hello All,
Thank you all in advance.
We have connected two nexus 3048 Switches and two l2 Switches as below
using vPC and LACP.
We have not seen any issues apart from one of VOIP server connected to
Switch 1 has lost access to VOIP Server connected Switch 2 and vice versa.
Where I am able to pi
Erik -
I¹ve reach out to you off-list.
Regards,
Nate Davis
Chief Operating Officer
American Registry for Internet Numbers
On 8/13/16, 2:42 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Erik Sundberg"
wrote:
>I am having some issues with ARIN Route Registry email not responding to
>emails that I am sending.
>
>I se
Question to the NANOG community, Is anyone else being extorted by Zayo? Is
Zayo threatening shutdown over bogus and fabricated charges?
The purpose of this message to the group is twofold: 1) to share our experience
being extorted by Zayo with the community and 2) to understand the depth and
e
> On Aug 11, 2016, at 22:56, Ryan Finnesey wrote:
>
> We need to provide DNS services for domains we offer as a registrar.
> We were discussing internally the different options for the deployment. Does
> anyone see a down side to using IaaS on AWS and Azure?
No anycast.
> We were also kickin
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:40:40AM +0200, Randy Bush wrote:
> my poor memory says that, some years back, someone announced or
> mentioned an open tool which i, a small isp, could feed my netflow data
> and bgp and ask if i should peer with X or build out or ...
>
> anyone with a more precise memor
likely pmacct.
http://www.pmacct.net
It works quite well to augment or replace ASPath data from the router.
--chip
On Monday, August 15, 2016, Randy Bush wrote:
> my poor memory says that, some years back, someone announced or
> mentioned an open tool which i, a small isp, could feed my netfl
my poor memory says that, some years back, someone announced or
mentioned an open tool which i, a small isp, could feed my netflow data
and bgp and ask if i should peer with X or build out or ...
anyone with a more precise memory than i?
randy
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