Re: experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-17 Thread Mehmet Akcin
On Nov 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Shacolby Jackson wrote: > Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of > their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if people > really love or hate it. > > -shac Equinix does a fair job running 7 layers , however t

nanog 51 registration link is down

2010-11-17 Thread Mehmet Akcin
fyi, https://nanog.merit.edu/registration/ can someone take a look at this? mehmet

experience with equinix exchange

2010-11-17 Thread Shacolby Jackson
Has anyone had any experience (good or bad) with their exchange at any of their major datacenters, especially Great Oaks? We're wondering if people really love or hate it. -shac

Re: mtu question

2010-11-17 Thread Pete Lumbis
I know in more recent Cisco IOS software (12.4.24T or later I think) the MTU of a GRE interface is that of the largest memory block on the box. I wouldn't be surprised if this is the same for loopbacks since they are a software concept. The logic behind this is that the largest frame the software

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, Looks like this broken update was around from 08:32:15 UTC until 09:47:44 UTC (this matches what we saw): http://www.ris.ripe.net/dashboard/120.29.240.0/21 Other providers, like Easynet, have also hit news with unexpected trouble this morning. Go do RIS search for 87.80.0.0/13 - lots of pr

RE: mtu question

2010-11-17 Thread Brandon Kim
Thanks for the 411 Mark! Again, this NANOG list is such a valuable source of info and knowledge! > Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 08:18:10 +1030 > From: na...@85d5b20a518b8f6864949bd940457dc124746ddc.nosense.org > To: brandon@brandontek.com > CC: jba...@brightok.net; deric.kwok2...@gmail.com; n

RE: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Randy McAnally
> We saw further evidence of this on paths traversing global crossing > to a customer last night.I don't know about others but we are > intending to make some efforts to move traffic other places, this > type of repeated failure is just terrible, especially since they > still continue to an

Re: mtu question

2010-11-17 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:23:54 -0500 Brandon Kim wrote: > > Jack brings up a good point. MTU is basically pointless since packets never > traverse any real interface... > So in theory the size can be anything... > > Not quite. You hit packet length field limits. IPv4 packets can't be large

RE: mtu question

2010-11-17 Thread Brandon Kim
Jack brings up a good point. MTU is basically pointless since packets never traverse any real interface... So in theory the size can be anything... > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:02:22 -0600 > From: jba...@brightok.net > To: deric.kwok2...@gmail.com > Subject: Re: mtu question > CC: nanog@

Re: mtu question

2010-11-17 Thread Jack Bates
On 11/17/2010 11:08 AM, Deric Kwok wrote: Hi I just see that the mtu in lo is different from standard eth 1500 Any meaning of it? You transfer huge amounts of data on loopbacks similar to sockets. Supporting large MTU's is appropriate, and given the virtual nature of loopbacks, is probably

RE: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread John van Oppen
We saw further evidence of this on paths traversing global crossing to a customer last night.I don't know about others but we are intending to make some efforts to move traffic other places, this type of repeated failure is just terrible, especially since they still continue to announce rout

IETF Fellowship Applications

2010-11-17 Thread Lucy Lynch
All - If you have young colleagues in emerging economic zones with an interest in Internet protocols, please pass this along. Thanks - Lucy From my colleague Connie Kendig, Sponsored Programs and Grants Manager for ISOC. - Dear Colleagues, The Internet Society has announced that it is

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Jorge Amodio
Forgot to include that the "18 minute" reference is on page 244. -J On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:40 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote: > I believe the entire mambo-jambo badly researched and digested news > piece comes from page 241 of the following report: > > http://www.uscc.gov/annual_report/2010/annual_re

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Jorge Amodio
I believe the entire mambo-jambo badly researched and digested news piece comes from page 241 of the following report: http://www.uscc.gov/annual_report/2010/annual_report_full_10.pdf Cheers Jorge

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Justin Wilson
It seems Ipplan V6 is a pretty widely used tool after reading the recent discussions. I would encourage anyone using it to donate some money. The project page has some paypal buttons. I am not affiliated with IPPLAN at all but use it quite a bit. $5 is not too much to spare for such a valua

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Blake Dunlap
We ended up writing our own package, which we may end up offering commercially when it is polished enough. One of the perks of having a web development branch. -Blake

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Greg Whynott
good for you Mike, for contributing. thanks. -g >> >> Open Source world - leaching off the good will and effort of the Open Source >> community, yet give nothing in return. > then you would also want to grab > the patch I posted to the bug tracker. Enjoy, I do. > > -- > Mike Oliver, KT2T

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Vincent Hoffman
On 17/11/2010 17:22, chip wrote: > There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various > bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking > these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial > applications or some OSS solution or

Re: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 11/17/10 10:33 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Probably another LSP blackholing issue, look at the archives a few weeks back you'll see the same issue on GX in Seattle. As for the issue this morning, they have a router that has been blackholing traffic in Ashburn for a good long while now. I

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Mike Oliver
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:41, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 17/11/2010 18:30, Greg Whynott wrote: >> >> IPPlan does this fairly well for ipv4 space,  and they have recently added >> ipv6. > > Good to hear they've added ipv6 support.  Here's the old IPTrack FAQ entry > for IPv6 support.  It seems to h

Re: FUD: 15% of world's internet traffic hijacked

2010-11-17 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:45:14 -0500 Bob Poortinga wrote: > This article, which quotes Dmitri Alperovitch of McAfee, is full of > false data as far as I can tell. I assert that much less than 15%, > probably on the order of 1% to 2% (much less in the US) was actually > diverted. The correct state

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 17/11/2010 18:30, Greg Whynott wrote: IPPlan does this fairly well for ipv4 space, and they have recently added ipv6. Good to hear they've added ipv6 support. Here's the old IPTrack FAQ entry for IPv6 support. It seems to have been updated quite recently. -- Q: I want feature X impleme

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread chip
I guess let me be a bit more specific. I'm an ISP, I want to track allocations to customers across pops across the globe. --chip On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Shahid Shafi wrote: > I want to add couple of more questions to this discussion if it's ok with > Chip. > > Are you all trying to g

Re: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:36:09AM -0500, Christopher J. Pilkington wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:55:10AM +, Paul Kelly :: Blacknight wrote: > > I may have spoken too soon... issues are on going. > > We were seeing routing irregularities with GBLX as well. It seems > they sending out o

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Shahid Shafi
I want to add couple of more questions to this discussion if it's ok with Chip. Are you all trying to get PI address space or PA is workable too. How are you planning to do multihoming with IPv6? Thanks Shahid On Wednesday, November 17, 2010, Leigh Porter wrote: > Darn it, I thought IPv6 manage

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Carlos Vicente
On 11/17/10 9:22 AM, chip wrote: > There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various > bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking > these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial > applications or some OSS solution or

Re: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Greg Whynott
IPPlan does this fairly well for ipv4 space, and they have recently added ipv6. -g On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:22 PM, chip wrote: > There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various > bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking > these allocati

Re: Cisco 6500 QoS Priority Queuing (DSCP & EXP based)

2010-11-17 Thread Dan Holme
On 17 November 2010 16:51, Manu Chao wrote: > May be Priority Queuing is not supported for MPLS traffic on 6700 modules ? Well, I'm not 100% sure I have this right but; if you are trusting traffic on ingress then doesn't EXP get copied into internal DSCP, which in turn is then copied into egress

RE: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread Leigh Porter
Darn it, I thought IPv6 managed all that kind of stuff automatically ? You mean I still have to do some work? ;-) -- Leigh -Original Message- From: chip [mailto:chip.g...@gmail.com] Sent: 17 November 2010 17:23 To: nanog Subject: IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating There'

Re: mtu question

2010-11-17 Thread Owen DeLong
I think that the MTU on LO is pretty irrelevant in general. If it does matter, larger is probably better. Owen On Nov 17, 2010, at 9:08 AM, Deric Kwok wrote: > Hi > > I just see that the mtu in lo is different from standard eth 1500 > > Any meaning of it? > > eg: > Standard eth 1500 > > in

IPv6 Space Management. Tracking, not Allocating

2010-11-17 Thread chip
There's been lots of discussion on how we should allocate space to various bits of the network. What I haven't yet seen is how people are tracking these allocations. Is everyone using one of the two or three commercial applications or some OSS solution or a few large(ish) text files? Anyone have

mtu question

2010-11-17 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi I just see that the mtu in lo is different from standard eth 1500 Any meaning of it? eg: Standard eth 1500 in linux. lo mtu 16436 in solaris. lo mtu is 8232 How about cisco / juniper loopback? Thank you so much

Re: Cisco 6500 QoS Priority Queuing (DSCP & EXP based)

2010-11-17 Thread Chris Evans
These are lan modules. They have fixed queues that you map traffic into. Research lan qos methods and it should make sense. On Nov 17, 2010 11:55 AM, "Manu Chao" wrote: > Thanks Jim, > > The line cards are 6700 series only. > > It seems (i will test it) that wrr commands can only be associated wit

Re: FUD: 15% of world's internet traffic hijacked

2010-11-17 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Anyone want to give me a quote for an AmericaFree.TV report ? Off-list, please. Regards Marshall On Nov 17, 2010, at 11:51 AM, Ryan Rawdon wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:45:14 -0500, Bob Poortinga > wrote: >> This is starting to be picked up by mainstream media, but was was first >> rep

Re: Cisco 6500 QoS Priority Queuing (DSCP & EXP based)

2010-11-17 Thread Manu Chao
Thanks Jim, The line cards are 6700 series only. It seems (i will test it) that wrr commands can only be associated with COS marking not DSCP nor EXP. May be Priority Queuing is not supported for MPLS traffic on 6700 modules ? On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Rampley Jr, Jim F < jim.ramp...@cha

Re: FUD: 15% of world's internet traffic hijacked

2010-11-17 Thread Ryan Rawdon
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 11:45:14 -0500, Bob Poortinga wrote: > This is starting to be picked up by mainstream media, but was was first > reported here (I believe): > > > > "Cyber Experts Have Proof That China Has Hijacked U

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread mc
Hi, (forgot list) On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:40:14 +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Fredy Kuenzler: >> >> 4739 45158 {64512 64514 64516 64519 64521 64522 64525 64526 64528 64529 >> 64530 64535 64537 64538 64541 64542 64543 64544 64545 64546 64547 64548 >> 64549 64552 64553

FUD: 15% of world's internet traffic hijacked

2010-11-17 Thread Bob Poortinga
This is starting to be picked up by mainstream media, but was was first reported here (I believe): "Cyber Experts Have Proof That China Has Hijacked U.S.-Based Internet Traffic" "For 18 minutes in April, China.s state-con

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2010-11-17 14:40 +0100), Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > We asked some customers what gear they are running, and here is a > short compilation - all these systems were affected by the BGP > flaps: > > - Cisco 2821 - c2800nm-advipservicesk9-mz.124-20.T4 > - Cisco 2821 - c2800nm-advipservicesk9-mz.124-

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread bmanning
two observations: ) this sounds/looks like a modern kremvax story ) what a slow news day --bill On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:07:26PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > I had the timeframe wrong then and it was the April 8 routing leaks. > Sorry for the false alarm. >

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
I had the timeframe wrong then and it was the April 8 routing leaks. Sorry for the false alarm. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Lindqvist Kurt Erik wrote: > > > I can detect from the report that this has anything to do with i.root? Can > you explain that? > > Looking at the dates referred to it

RE: Cisco 6500 QoS Priority Queuing (DSCP & EXP based)

2010-11-17 Thread Rampley Jr, Jim F
This depends on which line cards you have in your chassis. This configuration below won't work on 6700 series line cards. You have to use the wrr commands. I didn't test it, but MQC configuration below should work on ES series line cards. Jim -Original Message- From: Manu Chao

Re: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Christopher J. Pilkington
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 09:55:10AM +, Paul Kelly :: Blacknight wrote: > I may have spoken too soon... issues are on going. We were seeing routing irregularities with GBLX as well. It seems they sending out our prefix to their peers, but blackholing the traffic coming back. We've shutdown our

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 17 nov 2010, at 15.37, Lindqvist Kurt Erik wrote: > > On 16 nov 2010, at 18.08, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ > > I can detect from the report that this has anything to do with i.root? Can >

Cisco 6500 QoS Priority Queuing (DSCP & EXP based)

2010-11-17 Thread Manu Chao
I would to translate following 7200 QoS configuration to Catalyst 6500: class-map match-any PQ match dscp ef match mpls experimental topmost 5 policy-map QOS-PE-OUT class PQ priority percent 33 class class-default AFAIK we need extra command on 6500 to enable Priority Queuing at the in

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread James Stahr
At 07:40 AM 11/17/2010, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Fredy Kuenzler: We see a number of session towards downstreams flaps obviously caused by prefix 120.29.240.0/21, originated by AS45158, transited by AS4739 (see below). #sh ip bgp 120.29.240.0 Number of BGP Routes matchi

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 17 nov 2010, at 15.37, Lindqvist Kurt Erik wrote: > > On 16 nov 2010, at 18.08, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >> >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ > > I can detect from the report that this has anything to do with i.root? Can >

Re: AS path question.

2010-11-17 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 11/11/2010 03:03, Nick Hilliard wrote: On 11/11/2010 01:25, Scott Weeks wrote: Why did that make you feel safe? Other than a bug, and ignorance of BGP, what is unsafe about a lotta prepends? In theory, nothing. In practice: I admit it. I'm feeling smug today. Nick

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 17 nov 2010, at 07.17, Fred Baker wrote: > > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 1:08 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ > > I have read the article and the list, and I'm puzzled. It's pretty clear that > t

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Lindqvist Kurt Erik
On 16 nov 2010, at 18.08, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > > http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ I can detect from the report that this has anything to do with i.root? Can you explain that? Looking at the dates referred to it seem more

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Am 17.11.2010 10:19, schrieb Fredy Kuenzler: We see a number of session towards downstreams flaps obviously caused by prefix 120.29.240.0/21, originated by AS45158, transited by AS4739 (see below). #sh ip bgp 120.29.240.0 Number of BGP Routes matching display condition : 4 Status codes: s suppre

Re: flow analysis for juniper devices

2010-11-17 Thread Paolo Lucente
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 06:45:06PM -0600, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > today. The only flow collector implementation which I've spent any > amount of time looking at besides the stuff I've written myself is > pmacct, which IMHO shows great promise, but I don't believe it supports > IPFIX yet.

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread Tarko Tikan
hey, > The same here, but in my case we're downstream itself :) What version are you running? This seems to hit some versions in even worse way. -- tarko

RE: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
I may have spoken too soon... issues are on going. -Original Message- From: Paul Kelly :: Blacknight [mailto:p...@blacknight.com] Sent: 17 November 2010 09:21 To: 'Brielle Bruns'; NANOG list Subject: RE: Outage between GBLX and HE? It looks like it's back now. I was seeing spotting US co

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 12:13:39PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote a message of 17 lines which said: > Man in the middle rewriting of DNS query responses is the only thing I > can think of. And it's easy to detect since the rewriter tells the truth about its own name. From China, query "d

Re: The i-root china reroute finally makes fox news. And congress.

2010-11-17 Thread Martin A. Brown
Greetings, > >> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/16/internet-traffic-reportedly-routed-chinese-servers/ > > Hard to decipher what the Fox report is actually talking about, > but I suspect it relates to > http://www.renesys.com/blog/2010/06/two-strikes-i-root.shtml I would echo the

Re: Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread Alexandre Snarskii
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:19:55AM +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > We see a number of session towards downstreams flaps obviously caused by > prefix 120.29.240.0/21, originated by AS45158, transited by AS4739 (see > below). The same here, but in my case we're downstream itself :) JunOS logs:

RE: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Paul Kelly :: Blacknight
It looks like it's back now. I was seeing spotting US connectivity via GLBX upto 08:57 GMT. -Original Message- From: Brielle Bruns [mailto:br...@2mbit.com] Sent: 17 November 2010 03:32 To: NANOG list Subject: Outage between GBLX and HE? Hey All, Sorry to bother the list, but I'm notici

Prefix 120.29.240.0/21

2010-11-17 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
We see a number of session towards downstreams flaps obviously caused by prefix 120.29.240.0/21, originated by AS45158, transited by AS4739 (see below). Best regards, Fredy Kuenzler Init7 / AS13030 #sh ip bgp 120.29.240.0 Number of BGP Routes matching display condition : 4 Status codes: s su

Re: Outage between GBLX and HE?

2010-11-17 Thread Sebastian Wiesinger
* Brielle Bruns [2010-11-17 04:34]: > Hey All, > > Sorry to bother the list, but I'm noticing that I've got no connectivity > to Hurricane Electric through GBLX from my Qwest DSL. > > In this case, I'm trying to get to tunnelbroker.net: > > ... > 3 184-99-65-41.boid.qwest.net (184.99.65.41) 3