RE: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Daniel Fox
Just ate at iron cactus on 6th and both the talapia and spicy shrimp tacos are phenomonal! Margaritas are really good too... 90 plus tequillas to choose from...great staff Daniel Fox Smarsh Inc - Original Message - From: Chris Boyd Sent: 17 February 2010 14:42 To: North American Networ

Re: Spamhaus...

2010-02-17 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 2/17/2010 5:32 PM, Laczo, Louis wrote: Folks, I'm looking for comments / suggestions / opinions from any providers that have been contacted by spamhaus about excessive queries originating from their DNS resolvers, typically, as a proxy for customers. I know that certain large DNS providers

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Mike
In the downtown area there is also Jo's coffee and Little City that are traditional coffee shops like Halcyon. Franks, royal blue grocery and Walton's fancy & staple are also good options for a morning snack and coffee drinks. Whole foods is also another option. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >>> Most coffee shops, bars and restaurants have wifi hotspots since >>> there's an active group of volunteers that helps install and maintain >>> them. >> >> which raises the critical

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 6:23 PM, Randy Bush wrote: >> Most coffee shops, bars and restaurants have wifi hotspots since >> there's an active group of volunteers that helps install and maintain >> them. > > which raises the critical question, where is the nearest decent > (i.e. not fourbucks) coffee

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:48, jim deleskie wrote: > Absolutely. I've worked on networks where I'm was amazed on someday > we held it all together, but that is truly when you learn the most. I'm very, very happy that there are people out there who can actually see that... Steve

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Absolutely. I've worked on networks where I'm was amazed on someday we held it all together, but that is truly when you learn the most. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2010.02.17 20:45, jim deleskie wrote: >> Of course all designs are limited to the budget you h

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:45, jim deleskie wrote: > Of course all designs are limited to the budget you have to build the > network :) Heh, yeah, but it's unbelievable what one can learn on an eBay diet when they put their entire heart, soul and dedication into it! Steve

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Of course all designs are limited to the budget you have to build the network :) On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 9:20 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > On 2010.02.17 19:41, jim deleskie wrote: >> Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a >> vendor that sells under power kit.  No reason f

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 20:19, Jared Mauch wrote: > On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > >> Hey all, >> >> I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. >> . >> >> Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We >> don't yet provide any transit

RE: Spamhaus ...

2010-02-17 Thread Joel M Snyder
Matthew Black wrote: >When we licensed Spamhaus a few years back, they required us to set-up a DNS >slave server instead of querying against their public server. They had a >special DNS client that allowed partial zone updates. Turns out we >downloaded huge hourly updates. This is no longer nec

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 19:41, jim deleskie wrote: > Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a > vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. Hi Jim, Unfortunately, I have a mix of EOL Cisco gear in my network, along with other random custom-built software routers,

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:10 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > Hey all, > > I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. > . > > Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We > don't yet provide any transit services, but the requirement for us to do > so m

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.02.17 19:38, Scott Weeks wrote: > --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: > > layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved > out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I > > What do other providers do? Are your transit peers connected directly to >

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread James Jones
Ditto Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2010, at 7:38 PM, "Scott Weeks" wrote: --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: From: Steve Bertrand layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I What do other prov

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
I've done it much larger then small networks. Dependency is much more related to gear used then network size. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- deles...@gmail.com wrote: > From: jim deleskie > > > Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
--- deles...@gmail.com wrote: From: jim deleskie Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. --- I'd imagine it depends on the network size. Collapsing functionali

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread jim deleskie
Border/Core/Access is great thinking when your a sales rep for a vendor that sells under power kit. No reason for it any more. -jim On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 8:38 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: > From: Steve Bertrand > > layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connec

Re: Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
--- st...@ibctech.ca wrote: From: Steve Bertrand layered. My thinking is that my 'upstream' connections should be moved out of the core, and onto the edge. My reasoning for this is so that I What do other providers do? Are your transit peers connected directly to the core? I can understand suc

Re: Spamhaus...

2010-02-17 Thread John Levine
>When we licensed Spamhaus a few years back, they required us to >set-up a DNS slave server instead of querying against their public >server. They had a special DNS client that allowed partial zone >updates. Turns out we downloaded huge hourly updates. They now give you the choice of rsync or quer

Location of upstream connections & BGP templates

2010-02-17 Thread Steve Bertrand
Hey all, I've got a couple of questions that I'd like operational feedback about. . Although we're an ISP, we currently are only an access provider. We don't yet provide any transit services, but the requirement for us to do so may creep up on a very small scale shortly. Nonetheless... I'm on th

Re: Spamhaus...

2010-02-17 Thread Matthew Black
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 17:32:51 -0500 "Laczo, Louis" wrote: Folks, I'm looking for comments / suggestions / opinions from any providers that have been contacted by spamhaus about excessive queries originating from their DNS resolvers, typically, as a proxy for customers. I know that certain la

RE: Spamhaus...

2010-02-17 Thread Paul Stewart
Yes, at under 12 cents per user per *year* it's definitely worthwhile in my personal opinion... I know several providers who have taken their commercial service either because they wanted an SLA or because they were contacted by Spamhaus because of their traffic levels that price is rough and

Re: Spamhaus...

2010-02-17 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 17, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Laczo, Louis wrote: > I'm looking for comments / suggestions / opinions from any providers that > have been contacted by spamhaus about excessive queries originating from > their DNS resolvers, typically, as a proxy for customers. I know that certain > large DNS pro

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Randy Bush
> Most coffee shops, bars and restaurants have wifi hotspots since > there's an active group of volunteers that helps install and maintain > them. which raises the critical question, where is the nearest decent (i.e. not fourbucks) coffee to the venue? randy

Spamhaus...

2010-02-17 Thread Laczo, Louis
Folks, I'm looking for comments / suggestions / opinions from any providers that have been contacted by spamhaus about excessive queries originating from their DNS resolvers, typically, as a proxy for customers. I know that certain large DNS providers (i.e. google and level3) have either been b

RE: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?

2010-02-17 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
One main POP does not mean single homed. We had multiple upstreams, entrance facilities, and peers. We just had one facility where it all was, and our remote users were often dialing into third party banks based on reciprocity agreements when they were out of area. It was 12 years ago. Consolidat

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Bill Stewart
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > It's mostly the obvious places. Oddly, Fogo de Chao, a churrascaria > that opened a year ago is missing from the list as is my personal By the way, Fogo de Chao is a very strange place to eat if you're a vegetarian. I once went to their Dall

Re: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?

2010-02-17 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 17, 2010, at 3:51 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: >> In summary, could someone educate me on the benefits of having RNSes >> outside your network? >> > [Tomas L. Byrnes] We were a small regional ISP with only one main POP at > the time. If you are single homed, you -are- your upstream's networ

RE: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?

2010-02-17 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
> -Original Message- > From: Nick Hilliard [mailto:n...@foobar.org] > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 12:56 PM > To: Tomas L. Byrnes > Cc: NANOG list > Subject: Re: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story? > > On 17/02/2010 20:51, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > > [Tomas L. Byrnes] We were a sm

Re: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?

2010-02-17 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 17/02/2010 20:51, Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: > [Tomas L. Byrnes] We were a small regional ISP with only one main POP at > the time. off-net resolvers means that your continued customer satisfaction (and therefore your continued reliable cash-flow) is completely dependent on maintaining a good worki

RE: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?

2010-02-17 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
> In summary, could someone educate me on the benefits of having RNSes > outside your network? > [Tomas L. Byrnes] We were a small regional ISP with only one main POP at the time.

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Chris Boyd
On Feb 17, 2010, at 2:04 PM, Will Clayton wrote: > Maudi's on Lake Austin and Taco Deli are always on my menu. We just got some > Buffalo Wild Wings in town if you are in to that. If you make it to NXNW get > the Calimari. If you wind up ordering pizza, shop local and get the best > pizza for

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Will Clayton
Maudi's on Lake Austin and Taco Deli are always on my menu. We just got some Buffalo Wild Wings in town if you are in to that. If you make it to NXNW get the Calimari. If you wind up ordering pizza, shop local and get the best pizza for the best price in town at Austin's Pizza. On Wed, Feb 17, 201

Re: History of 4.2.2.2. What's the story?

2010-02-17 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 16, 2010, at 11:35 PM, Frank Bulk wrote: > Our nameservers handle both the authoritative and recursive traffic, but we > use ACLs to restrict recursive queries to just our users. Speaking strictly about the recursive servers (others have covered the auth + recusive on one box thing), than

2nd send: Adopt‐an‐Haitian‐Internet‐ technician‐or‐facility

2010-02-17 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
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Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Chris Boyd
On Feb 17, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Mike Lyon wrote: > Don't forget the Salt Lick... BBQ lovers should go to House Park BBQ. Most of the time the sign out front says "you don't need no teef to eat my meef" http://www.yelp.com/biz/house-park-bar-b-q-austin Cash only! If you want to make a short dri

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Mike Lyon
Don't forget the Salt Lick... http://www.saltlickbbq.com/locations_driftwood.html Dry county so bring your own booze... -Mike On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Jason J. W. Williams < william...@digitar.com> wrote: > For BBQ, Rudy's is hard t

RE: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread O'Connor, Michael
-Original Message- From: Randy Bush [mailto:ra...@psg.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:13 PM To: North American Network Operators Group Subject: austin eats is there a nanog austin eats page somewhere? i lost my old link to some wiki we used to use. and, a completely unverified r

Last Call for Applicants - ARIN Meetings Fellowship Program

2010-02-17 Thread c...@daydream.com
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Re: Looking for contact from the University of Wisconsin Madison

2010-02-17 Thread John Jason Brzozowski
Thanks Joe. On 2/17/10 7:56 AM, "Joe Greco" wrote: >> Anyone have a contact at University of Wisconsin Madison (146.151.0.0/16)? >> >> Would really like to talk to someone who is involved with running the >> network over there. > > Depending on your issue, you might actually want to talk to W

Re: Looking for contact from the University of Wisconsin Madison

2010-02-17 Thread Joe Greco
> Anyone have a contact at University of Wisconsin Madison (146.151.0.0/16)? > > Would really like to talk to someone who is involved with running the > network over there. Depending on your issue, you might actually want to talk to WiscNet. For UW Madison, you can also talk to n...@doit.wisc.edu

Looking for contact from the University of Wisconsin Madison (146.151.0.0/16)

2010-02-17 Thread John Jason Brzozowski
Anyone have a contact at University of Wisconsin Madison (146.151.0.0/16)? Would really like to talk to someone who is involved with running the network over there. Thanks, John = John Jason Brzozowski Comcast Cable e) mailto:john_brzozow...@cable.comcast.

Request Recommendation for ISDN Service in London UK

2010-02-17 Thread Tim McKee
My apologies for the non-operational nature of this query. Please respond to tmc...@sdnglobal.com so that we can keep non-relevant messages off the list. I have need of a recommendation for an ISDN PRI provider in my Telecity Sovereign House colo (London UK). Also, it has been quite a while s

Re: austin eats

2010-02-17 Thread Jorge Amodio
It really depends on what do yo like to eat, there are many places in Austin, very decent eateries around UT sites/dorms. Is in the south area of Austin, not downtown, but whenever we go there we love to stop by La Loca Maria Taco Express, http://www.tacoxpress.com, it's one of those traditional j

Re: BIRD vs Quagga

2010-02-17 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 17/02/2010 01:19, Randy Bush wrote: > i would add decades of bad anecdotes where the data plane is not > congruent with the control plane. in general, when plane N is not > congruent with plane N+1, management and debugging are problematic. I've always maintained publicly and privately that ro

Re: BIRD vs Quagga

2010-02-17 Thread Thomas Mangin
> During the discussion, a developers of Bird said that their filtering code > _may_ still have bugs (when performing community based filtering). Someone rightly pointed to me that the commenter was not a BIRD developer .. my mistake sorry. I will "recall" my statement until I can watch to the w

RE: Recommendations for router with routed copper gig-e ports?

2010-02-17 Thread Leigh Porter
I have tried some of the Garrett stuff in the lab. It's OK but I don't at all like their web interface or CLI. I echo some previous comments, it you want something cheap, flexible and fast enough then you can't beat a little Linux box.. -- Leigh Porter -Original Message- From: Fran