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Re: Practical numbers for IPv6 allocations

On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:17 PM, David Conrad wrote: On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Nathan Ward wrote: My understanding is that the RIRs are doing sparse allocation, as opposed to reserving a few bits. I could be wrong. Last I heard, with the exception of APNIC and contrary to what they indicated t

Re: Practical numbers for IPv6 allocations

On Oct 6, 2009, at 6:13 PM, Nathan Ward wrote: My understanding is that the RIRs are doing sparse allocation, as opposed to reserving a few bits. I could be wrong. Last I heard, with the exception of APNIC and contrary to what they indicated they'd do prior to IANA allocating the /12s, you a

Re: Practical numbers for IPv6 allocations

On 7/10/2009, at 6:10 AM, Doug Barton wrote: Tony Hain wrote: Doug Barton wrote: In the following I'm assuming that you're familiar with the fact that staying on the 4-byte boundaries makes sense because it makes reverse DNS delegation easier. It also makes the math easier. I assume you

Re: ISP customer assignments

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 17:40:40 -0400, Mark Smith wrote: I think it is both "classless" and "classfull" (although it's different enough that we probably should stop using loaded IPv4 terms ...) It's _classless_. There's none of this Class A, B, C, D, or E nonsense. The word everyone is danci

Re: ISP customer assignments

>>  unimaginably huge *classless* network.  Yet, 2 hours into day one, a >>  classful boundary has already been woven into it's DNA.  Saying it's No bit patterns in a V6 address indicate total size of a network. v6 doesn't bring classful addressing back or get rid of CIDR.. v6 dispenses with somet

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

> Someone else pointed out that if the system in question has been > botted/owned/pwn3d/whatever > you want to call it, then, you can't guarantee it would make the 911 > call correctly anyway. I realize that many NANOG'ers don't actually use the technologies that we talk about, so I'm just goi

Re: ISP customer assignments

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009 09:25:44 -0500 Dan White wrote: > On 05/10/09 23:23 -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: > > You underestimate the power of the marketing department and the bean > > counters. I assure you, residential ISPs are looking for schemes to give > > out as little address space as possible. >

RE: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

> > > -Original Message- > > From: Eugeniu Patrascu [mailto:eu...@imacandi.net] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:20 AM > > To: Gadi Evron > > Cc: NANOG > > Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for > bottedclients > . > > > > > I think the need for someone bein

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mark [at] edgewire wrote: > The end problem is still users and really, these users will click on > anything that has a bright and shiny button which says, Ok. Really, does > setting up a portal help? Perhaps a "sandboxed" area which has some > information on securing their machine and keeping it c

Re: ISP customer assignments

On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:34:28 PDT, Owen DeLong said: > although that isn't the case today. However, I believe > that 90.1 is supposed to be parsed equivalent to 90.0.0.1 > and 90.5.1 is supposed to be treated as 90.5.0.1, so, > 32.1.13.184.241.1 should also work for the above if > you expanded tod

Re: Practical numbers for IPv6 allocations

Tony Hain wrote: > Doug Barton wrote: >> In the following I'm assuming that you're familiar with the fact that >> staying on the 4-byte boundaries makes sense because it makes reverse >> DNS delegation easier. It also makes the math easier. > > I assume you meant 4-bit. ;) Grrr, I hate when I d

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

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Re: IPv6 peering between Internet2 and Hurricane Electric

* Florian Weimer: > It seems to be down, based on > and trying to get a > traceroute to he.net/2001:470:0:76::2 from the SEAT location. BGP > seems to be up, though. I've been told that the looking glass needs some knowledge about Internet2's routing

Re: ISP customer assignments

On Oct 6, 2009, at 7:29 AM, Lee Howard wrote: -Original Message- From: robert.e.vanor...@frb.gov [mailto:robert.e.vanor...@frb.gov] Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:41 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ISP customer assignments Organizations will be provided /48s or smaller, but given

Re: ISP customer assignments

Owen DeLong wrote: Part of the reason that 128 bits was chosen (64 bits is FAR more than enough) was that it allowed for 64 bits of stateless auto-configuration (IEEE was already pushing EUI-64) within each network and still provided more than enough network numbers. I'm sure the Really Smart

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

The end problem is still users and really, these users will click on anything that has a bright and shiny button which says, Ok. Really, does setting up a portal help? Perhaps a "sandboxed" area which has some information on securing their machine and keeping it clean may be the way to go

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

On Oct 6, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: Gadi Evron wrote: Barton F Bruce wrote: Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a family using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several children burn to death could bring all sorts of undesira

RE: ISP customer assignments

Rick et al, I work at an ISP, and I know staff at several other ISPs, we are all trying to do this right. If a /56 makes sense and is supported by the IPv6 technology and we won't have issues supplying these to customers (technically speaking), then we will most likely do this or something similar

RE: Practical numbers for IPv6 allocations

Doug Barton wrote: > [ I normally don't say this, but please reply to the list only, thanks. > ] > > I've been a member of the "let's not assume the IPv6 space is > infinite" school from day 1, even though I feel like I have a pretty > solid grasp of the math. Others have alluded to some of the re

RE: ISP customer assignments

> -Original Message- > From: robert.e.vanor...@frb.gov [mailto:robert.e.vanor...@frb.gov] > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 7:41 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: ISP customer assignments > > Organizations will be provided /48s or smaller, but given the current > issues with routing /

Re: ISP customer assignments

On 05/10/09 23:23 -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: You underestimate the power of the marketing department and the bean counters. I assure you, residential ISPs are looking for schemes to give out as little address space as possible. That has not been my (limited) experience. If you are aware of any

RE: ISP customer assignments

> -Original Message- > From: William Herrin [mailto:herrin-na...@dirtside.com] > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 12:58 PM > To: Brian Johnson > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: ISP customer assignments > > /60 - the smallest amount you should allocate to a downstream customer > with more

RE: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

> -Original Message- > From: Eugeniu Patrascu [mailto:eu...@imacandi.net] > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 4:20 AM > To: Gadi Evron > Cc: NANOG > Subject: Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients . > > > I think the need for someone being able to call 911 f

Re: ISP customer assignments

Actually, I would argue IPv6 is a bit of both classfull and classless. (Moreso the latter ...) The protocol itself, /64 "mandate" aside, certainly allows you to place arbitrary-bit-long prefix lengths - and to aggregate/summarize at any point. And /64s do not so much apply in some cases, whether

Re: ISP customer assignments

On 05/10/09 22:53 -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 18:55:35 -0400, Dan White wrote: All of the items in the above list are true of DHCP. ... In an IPv4 world (which is where DHCP lives), it's much MUCH harder to track assignments -- I don't share my DHCP logs with anyone, nor do

Re: ISP customer assignments

On 05/10/09 22:28 -0400, Ricky Beam wrote: On Mon, 05 Oct 2009 17:13:37 -0400, Dan White wrote: I don't understand. You're saying you have overlapping class boundaries in your network? No. What I'm saying is IPv6 is supposed to be the new, ground-breaking, unimaginably huge *classless* net

RE: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibilityfor bottedclients

> > I think the need for someone being able to call 911 from their VoIP > > outweighs your right to claim that they should be disconnected from > > the Internet. > > Again, I don't disagree, but I see it as a technical issue > which is solvable. I don't see why this is THE issue. It's > rea

Re: Practical numbers for IPv6 allocations

FWIW - I don't believe the two arguments are in opposition/conflict ... But totally agree with your end result of "/56s and /48s, with add'l bits held in reserve" ... /TJ On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:39 PM, Doug Barton wrote: > [ I normally don't say this, but please reply to the list only, thank

RE: ISP customer assignments

-Original Message- From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu] > Most of those concerns are in fact mitigated by a well implemented Privacy > implementation Which is why I started off by mentioning RFC4191. ;) -End Original Message- And Vista/Win7/etc. make

please leak piratebay prefix 194.71.107.0/24

we currently announce 194.71.107.0/24, unfortunately some of our carriers have been threattened by the illegal entertainment kartell mafia and dont really feel like relaying this prefix for us. if you do have this prefix over one of our peerings as i know many of you do, feel free to accidentially

Re: ISP customer assignments

Joe Greco writes: > the people with the clue-by-fours are over on the IPv6 lists. They've upgraded to clue-by-six's. Not as handy, but will last longer. Bjørn

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: Gadi Evron wrote: Barton F Bruce wrote: Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a family using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several children burn to death could bring all sorts of undesirable regulation let alone the b

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility for bottedclients

Gadi Evron wrote: Barton F Bruce wrote: Stopping the abuse is fine, but cutting service to the point that a family using VOIP only for their phone service can't call 911 and several children burn to death could bring all sorts of undesirable regulation let alone the bad press and legal expens