RE: What else shall we test?

2009-07-22 Thread Adrian Minta
I will sugest to test the throughput when a BGP peer is flapping. -Original Message- From: Michael J McCafferty Sent: 23 iulie 2009 03:05 To: nanog Subject: What else shall we test? All, We are putting together a test plan to test a pair of Cisco 7206 VXR's, each with with NPE-G

Re: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website

2009-07-22 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 22, 2009, at 7:41 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:27:39 +0100 From: "andrew.wallace" Big up the Nanog community, you do the net proud... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8163190.stm First showed up on NANOG 7 hours ago, but it was a fun read. Clearly the arti

What else shall we test?

2009-07-22 Thread Michael J McCafferty
All, We are putting together a test plan to test a pair of Cisco 7206 VXR's, each with with NPE-G2. The purpose of the test is just to make sure we know where their realistic limits are with a real configuration, full route tables from two providers, etc. We have one JDSU T-Berd 8000 test s

Re: Nanog mentioned on BBC news website

2009-07-22 Thread Kevin Oberman
> Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 21:27:39 +0100 > From: "andrew.wallace" > > Big up the Nanog community, you do the net proud... > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8163190.stm First showed up on NANOG 7 hours ago, but it was a fun read. Clearly the article has little connection with reality. I

Nanog mentioned on BBC news website

2009-07-22 Thread andrew.wallace
Big up the Nanog community, you do the net proud... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8163190.stm

RE: Open Source / Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Erik Amundson
We've been using Ipswitch WhatsUp Gold for many years. Their recent improvements to the product have been mainly system monitoring stuff. The product has grown in capabilities hugely since version 4 when we started with them (they are on version 12 now), and with that improvement in capabiliti

Re: Open Source / Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Ray Sanders
It's neither open source, nor free, but I moved from Nagios/Groundwork to Solarwinds ipMonitor 9. Solarwinds recently cut the price down to under $1000 for unlimited monitors. Up until about a year ago, the unlimited license ran about $5K. So for a large nationwide environment like ours, our R

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread David Storandt
Why are you a "small start-up" and needing 600M-1G of pipe, and from 3x carriers? You can't use 150-200M via GigE ports and scale as needed (assuming you aren't bound to a SONET loop)? We started our IP backbone in 2005 with 3x 300M connections on 6509/maxed-Sup2s with 85% BGP tables and 6516-GBIC

Re: Open Source / Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Jack Bates
Matthew Huff wrote: Some of our requirements: . Native agents for Windows 2003/2008, Linux, Linux x86_64, Solaris Sparc and Solaris x86_64. Either binaries or source code. . Ability to send alerts via email, pager and/or snmp . Monitoring of OS properties like memory, disk, cp

Re: Open Source / Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:08:29 -0400 Matthew Huff wrote: > I apologize for not starting a new thread before, I didn't realize that the > nanog mailing list created a thread-index rather than using the subject. It's not the nanog mailing list, it's your own email client (and ours) that keeps the th

Open Source / Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Matthew Huff
I apologize for not starting a new thread before, I didn't realize that the nanog mailing list created a thread-index rather than using the subject. Even though NANOG is primarily for network operators, I know that a number of members work in NOCs where there is also monitoring of servers/applic

Re: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Alex H. Ryu
It really depends on your application server configuration. Most people just uses SNMP for this purpose. Something like net-snmp installed in servers, then monitor the info via SNMP MIB polling. Alex Matthew Huff wrote: > I think all of these comments are useful. but we are looking for NMS for

Re: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
Matthew Huff wrote: > Just an FYI, I didn't hijack this thread, I'm the one that started it. If > you look at the Subject line it says NMS for Server hardware / Application > monitoring not for router/switch monitoring. Regardless, the suggestions and > info is good for everyone, I just wanted to p

RE: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Matthew Huff
Just an FYI, I didn't hijack this thread, I'm the one that started it. If you look at the Subject line it says NMS for Server hardware / Application monitoring not for router/switch monitoring. Regardless, the suggestions and info is good for everyone, I just wanted to push a bit back towards the o

Re: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Jens Link
Matthew Huff writes: > Nagios http://www.nagios.org http://www.icinga.org/ - a (very current) fork of Nagios http://software.uninett.no/stager/ - another netflow tool http://nedi.ch - For those with larger campus networks http://nipper.titania.co.uk/ - audit tool for different netw

RE: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Matthew Huff
I think all of these comments are useful. but we are looking for NMS for server/application monitoring, not snmp/dmi based polling. We will need a system that runs custom scripts to monitor our servers (CPU, OS syslogs, Windows Event logs, hardware, memory, etc) and our in-house applications runnin

Re: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Will Clayton
Eric Gauthier wrote: Hello, As for server / application / random other stuff (like printers and ups's and IP camera and the like), Zenoss is great -- its clean, simple, fast(ish), easy and pretty -- the last one happens to be important for some folks (esp in the enterprise world...)

Re: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Eric Gauthier
Hello, > As for server / application / random other stuff (like printers and > ups's and IP camera and the like), Zenoss is great -- its clean, > simple, fast(ish), easy and pretty -- the last one happens to be > important for some folks (esp in the enterprise world...) We've looked at Zen

Re: Are you an "unpaid volunteer"?

2009-07-22 Thread Gadi Evron
Graeme Fowler wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8163190.stm Some of it is right. Some of it is wrong. All of it makes for interesting reading from the point of view of a layperson. We are all, apparently, unsung heroes... Graeme PS Yes, there's plenty to tear apart in the article. Do

RE: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
On 7/22/09 9:48 AM, Jim Wininger wrote: > What do you consider a "small start-up ISP"? What kind of upstream > connectivity are you considering (or at least falls under the category of > small isp) bandwidht, bgp etc? two or three upstreams - OC-12 to 1G to each (BGP full tables) three "POPs" me

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 09:39:25AM -0400, R. Benjamin Kessler wrote: > There has been a lot of good feedback regarding the deficiencies of the > 7600 platform... > > So, the new question is: what platforms should a small, start-up ISP > consider when looking to provide Ethernet services to their c

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread Manu Chao
Juniper M10i versus Cisco ASR 1000 On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Jim Wininger wrote: > What do you consider a "small start-up ISP"? What kind of upstream > connectivity are you considering (or at least falls under the category of > small isp) bandwidht, bgp etc? > > > On 7/22/09 9:39 AM, "R. B

Re: What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread Jim Wininger
What do you consider a "small start-up ISP"? What kind of upstream connectivity are you considering (or at least falls under the category of small isp) bandwidht, bgp etc? On 7/22/09 9:39 AM, "R. Benjamin Kessler" wrote: > There has been a lot of good feedback regarding the deficiencies of the

Re: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Jack Bates
Warren Kumari wrote: As for server / application / random other stuff (like printers and ups's and IP camera and the like), Zenoss is great -- its clean, simple, fast(ish), easy and pretty -- the last one happens to be important for some folks (esp in the enterprise world...) Just expect i

What Platform for a small ISP (was: Cisco 7600 (7609) as a core BGP router)

2009-07-22 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
There has been a lot of good feedback regarding the deficiencies of the 7600 platform... So, the new question is: what platforms should a small, start-up ISP consider when looking to provide Ethernet services to their customers? - Scalability - 100M, 1G, 10G access speeds (backplane limitations,

Re: Opensource or Low Cost NMS for Server Hardware / Application Monitoring

2009-07-22 Thread Warren Kumari
For networking stuff, see Joe Abley and Stephen Stuart's NANOG 26 Tutorial "Managing IP Networks with Free Software" -- http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog26/abstracts.php?pt=Nzg1Jm5hbm9nMjY=&nm=nanog26 Direct link to PDF: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog26/presentations/stephen.pdf -- it'

Are you an "unpaid volunteer"?

2009-07-22 Thread Graeme Fowler
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8163190.stm Some of it is right. Some of it is wrong. All of it makes for interesting reading from the point of view of a layperson. We are all, apparently, unsung heroes... Graeme PS Yes, there's plenty to tear apart in the article. Don't shoot the messenger