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2009-07-05 Thread jamie rishaw
How do I configure my router for that? Router(config)# no ML jibber-jabber ^ % Invalid input detected at 'twitter' marker. -j -- Jamie Rishaw // .com.a...@j <- reverse it. ish. [Impressive C-level Title Here], arpa / arpa labs

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Neil
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Roland Perry wrote: > In article <4a50acb7.6070...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen < > mar...@airwire.ie> writes > >> Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used >> for something sensible. >> > > I seem to be trying to find the middle gr

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <4a50c401.9070...@gmail.com>, JC Dill writes Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news means it can't cope with the traffic. Really? Um, wow. How big is this school? Is the webserver on an ISDN line? It appears to be at a co-location centre in a dist

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Benjamin Billon
I agree. It seems (I didn't look for solid proofs of that) twitter went down when MJ's die was revealed. I don't want to know why (not enough cloud computing stuff?), but I still believe there is maybe not always an ultimate solution to all problems. Twitter and its friends may sometimes help

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <4a50bb87.8000...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen writes Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used for something sensible. I seem to be trying to find the middle ground between members of the public who think "The Internet isn't appropriate because th

RE: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Skywing
Hmm... doesn't that kind of defeat the point of using Twitter instead of your own infrastructure to begin with, aside from adding another (Posterous) single point of failure for all your communication mechanisms? Perhaps it is not so important for snow days vs. outage situations, but it seems t

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread JC Dill
Roland Perry wrote: There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage the latest technology to appear "cool" and "in tune" with customers, but by far and large, when something goes down customers either do no nothing, wait, or call in. I think the best use of everyone's time is to make sur

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Roland Perry wrote: > In article <4a50acb7.6070...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen > writes >> Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used >> for something sensible. > > I seem to be trying to find the middle ground between members of the > public who think "The Intern

Re: sniffing x.25 on SUN/Solaris

2009-07-05 Thread Peter J. Cherny
On 05/07/2009 21:56, Kasper Adel wrote: I am trying to capture x.25 traffic from a Sun Machine and i wonder if snoop supports it because i asked my customer to capture it and send it over ... Try http://docs.sun.com esp. "Solstice X.25 9.2 Administration Guide" x25trace probably does what you w

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <4a50acb7.6070...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen writes Calling it a lame web 2.0 is pretty much off, when it's actually used for something sensible. I seem to be trying to find the middle ground between members of the public who think "The Internet isn't appropriate because the

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Roland Perry wrote: > In article <4a50a3c9.3080...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen > writes > >> for those type of notifications, it's perfect, also because it's not >> part of your own infrastructure. > > From an operational resilience point of view, that's a very important > feature. It's

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <4a50a3c9.3080...@airwire.ie>, Martin List-Petersen writes for those type of notifications, it's perfect, also because it's not part of your own infrastructure. From an operational resilience point of view, that's a very important feature. -- Roland Perry

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <20090705113248.gp1...@hezmatt.org>, Matthew Palmer writes There are web hosting providers whose 18c/year hosting plans can't handle a few thousand requests to a static page over a period of maybe 15 minutes without falling over? The mind boggles. Apparently so. Of course, they cou

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article , Steve Pirk writes It's a High School. They don't have a "support desk" (or more than handful of phone lines [1]). Even the local radio station can't cope with one call per school asking them to broadcast the news that they have closed due to bad weather. If your resources a

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <9589b202-ed92-4c49-98ee-eebaa43c8...@americafree.tv>, Marshall Eubanks writes as I said before, this is a service that goes down. I would not rely on it as the only way to communicate. I'd be proposing it as an additional way to communicate[1], but people could come to rely upon

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <20090705101237.gc14...@skywalker.creative.net.au>, Adrian Chadd writes Is Twitter making a profit or not? This discussion about (ab)using a publicly available message system which isn't currently being charged for would makes me worried^Wamused as hell. I've seen debates about whe

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <0d357934-85de-4935-8f58-02f5fcc1d...@americafree.tv>, Marshall Eubanks writes I would say this partially would depend on how and what you want to communicate. If there is just going to be one pronouncement per day (the school is up / down / delayed), then facebook and / or myspace

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Martin List-Petersen
Aleksandr Milewski wrote: > On 7/4/09 7:50 AM, Roland Perry wrote: > >> What I'm trying to anticipate is the objection to *also* posting to >> Twitter, which might be raised on the grounds that it's too >> "unofficial", or "unsupported" or something like that. > > Anecdotal, of course, but I foun

Re: sniffing x.25 on SUN/Solaris

2009-07-05 Thread Arie Vayner
Kas, I would assume that the x.25 traffic is using async ports on the Sun (or is it over IP)? If its async, you are out of luck, and should use some RS232 (I assume...) sniffer which can recognize x.25 Arie On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Kasper Adel wrote: > Hello, > > I am trying to capture

sniffing x.25 on SUN/Solaris

2009-07-05 Thread Kasper Adel
Hello, I am trying to capture x.25 traffic from a Sun Machine and i wonder if snoop supports it because i asked my customer to capture it and send it over but the trace doesnt include anything x/25 related. Regards, Kas

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 11:01:43AM +0100, Roland Perry wrote: [snow day notifications] > Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news means > it can't cope with the traffic. I don't believe they can justify paying > more for better web hosting, just to manage this once-a-y

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 5, 2009, at 6:23 AM, Roland Perry wrote: In article <4a4fd58b.2000...@gmail.com>, JC Dill > writes Even easier, you make an email address on your system that is an alias to posterous. So they send to "p...@schoolsystem.edu" which .forwards out to posterous, which posts to the school

RE: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Joe Blanchard
My gosh, Ok, how about we use Facebook, myspace and the other assorted community websites/services, no better yet lets use AOL! Can we kill this thread please (for those that are still on AOL that's PLZ) This list is for professional content, not for boasting about high school websties/servi

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Steve Pirk
On Sun, 5 Jul 2009, Roland Perry wrote: There's the temptation by some of companies to leverage the latest technology to appear "cool" and "in tune" with customers, but by far and large, when something goes down customers either do no nothing, wait, or call in. I think the best use of everyone's

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Marc Manthey
Is Twitter making a profit or not? The other consideration is scalability and reliability. Twitter has been subject to numerous feature disablements due to capacity issues, as well as complete outages. Furthermore, Twitter does not appear to be deployed in a distributed, highly-availab

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 5, 2009, at 6:12 AM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On Sun, Jul 05, 2009, Roland Perry wrote: Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news means it can't cope with the traffic. I don't believe they can justify paying more for better web hosting, just to manage this once-a

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: Is Twitter making a profit or not? The other consideration is scalability and reliability. Twitter has been subject to numerous feature disablements due to capacity issues, as well as complete outages. Furthermore, Twitter does not appear

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <4a4fd58b.2000...@gmail.com>, JC Dill writes Even easier, you make an email address on your system that is an alias to posterous. So they send to "p...@schoolsystem.edu" which .forwards out to posterous, which posts to the school blog, myspace, facebook, twitter, It doesn't have

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sun, Jul 05, 2009, Roland Perry wrote: > Unfortunately, the number of students polling the website for news means > it can't cope with the traffic. I don't believe they can justify paying > more for better web hosting, just to manage this once-a-year half hour > event. Is Twitter making a p

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article <4a4fc4f3.2010...@rollernet.us>, Seth Mattinen writes Twitter will attract the "what's cool right now" demographic. But has it gone from "cool" to "useful" (for this kind of application), in a way that Facebook and other such sites haven't? I remember an employer of mine when I w

Re: Using twitter as an outage notification

2009-07-05 Thread Roland Perry
In article aatbsgaabauldg0ewkrsz9bd0db8+e2aqaaa...@iname.com>, Frank Bulk writes When the local power companies uses twitter, then maybe I'll consider using twitter for our customers. That's a poor example as far as the UK's concerned. You can't get information from the power company for

Re: 151 Front Street in Toronto Fire (TorIX and others)

2009-07-05 Thread D'Arcy J.M. Cain
On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:03:47 -0700 Seth Mattinen wrote: > As I check now they've redacted the whole building claim and are now > saying 7th and 8th floors. I (http://www.Vex.Net/) am on the seventh floor and we never went down. All my screen sessions are still up and running. I can't find any ev

Re: 151 Front Street in Toronto Fire (TorIX and others)

2009-07-05 Thread Seth Mattinen
Erik (Caneris) wrote: >> Peer1 confirms it on their status page: >> >> http://forums.peer1.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=117 >> >> They say power was cut to the whole building. A post on webhostingtalk >> says only their suite and one below. >> >> > That's incorrect unless the rest of us are running on

RE: 151 Front Street in Toronto Fire (TorIX and others)

2009-07-05 Thread Erik (Caneris)
> > Peer1 confirms it on their status page: > > http://forums.peer1.com/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=117 > > They say power was cut to the whole building. A post on webhostingtalk > says only their suite and one below. > > That's incorrect unless the rest of us are running on generators now. We are on

Re: 151 Front Street in Toronto Fire (TorIX and others)

2009-07-05 Thread Seth Mattinen
Paul Wall wrote: > FYI > > There is a fire at 151 Front Street in Toronto, which is home to TorIX > as well as a variety of other network providers. Rumor is the fire may > have ORIGINated in the Peer1 suite. > > Seems a bad weekend for fires given what happened in Seattle as well. > Peer1 conf

Re: Fire at 151 Front St, Toronto

2009-07-05 Thread Seth Mattinen
Erik (Caneris) wrote: > 151 Front St is on fire. I just woke up from a flood of monitoring SMSs about > 25 minutes ago. > http://www.toronto.ca/fire/cadinfo/livecad.htm shows a two alarm fire with 17 > fire vehicles dispatched currently. > > More details as we have them. > As in, lp0 on fire?

Fire at 151 Front St, Toronto

2009-07-05 Thread Erik (Caneris)
151 Front St is on fire. I just woke up from a flood of monitoring SMSs about 25 minutes ago. http://www.toronto.ca/fire/cadinfo/livecad.htm shows a two alarm fire with 17 fire vehicles dispatched currently. More details as we have them. Erik

151 Front Street in Toronto Fire (TorIX and others)

2009-07-05 Thread Paul Wall
FYI There is a fire at 151 Front Street in Toronto, which is home to TorIX as well as a variety of other network providers. Rumor is the fire may have ORIGINated in the Peer1 suite. Seems a bad weekend for fires given what happened in Seattle as well. Drive Slow