[NANOG] Questions about NETCONF

2008-05-15 Thread 袁智辉
How is the state of arts of NETCONF (RFC 4741) protocol? Is there any Network Management System Deployed which is base on NETCONF? Do you think security products (like Firewall, IDS/IPS and Security Operation Centre) can benefit from NETCONF? Thanks in advance, Devin ___

Re: [NANOG] BCP Muni WiFI?

2008-05-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Are there any good (published) BCPs for building out Municipal WiFi > networks? Particularly in the security/authentication/scaling areas? > Ask Earthlink, they just announced pulling out of Philly .. and I guess they had

[NANOG] BCP Muni WiFI?

2008-05-15 Thread Deepak Jain
Are there any good (published) BCPs for building out Municipal WiFi networks? Particularly in the security/authentication/scaling areas? Thanks in advance, DJ ___ NANOG mailing list NANOG@nanog.org http://mailman.nanog.org/mailman/listinfo/nanog

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:22 PM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:30:52 -0400 > "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> Oh, how do you know you can trust the VPN folks anymore than the >> cable-modem folks though? eventually the same cost issues

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Luke S Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Oh, how do you know you can trust the VPN folks anymore than the >> cable-modem folks though? eventually the same cost issues are going to >> arise for the VPN folks as

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:30:52 -0400 "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Oh, how do you know you can trust the VPN folks anymore than the > cable-modem folks though? eventually the same cost issues are going to > arise for the VPN folks as did for cable-modem/dsl folks (downward > p

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Luke S Crawford
"Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Oh, how do you know you can trust the VPN folks anymore than the > cable-modem folks though? eventually the same cost issues are going to > arise for the VPN folks as did for cable-modem/dsl folks (downward > pressure on pricing and infra/opex/cape

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:58 AM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 15 May 2008 09:46:05 -0400 > The other day, the Wall Street Journal ran a brief piece on VPN > providers... The threat they had in mind was wireless hotspots, but > any sort of on-link evil can be dealt with

Re: [NANOG] Installation troubles with GlobalCrossing

2008-05-15 Thread Eddy Martinez
On May 15, 2008, at 12:38 AM, Erich Hohermuth wrote: > Dear members, > > I just want to ask if anyone else have major troubles to install new > or > upgrade services with Global Crossing ? > > The story: > > Last year on December we ordered two layer2 point to point connections > based on gigab

Re: [NANOG] Tired of ...

2008-05-15 Thread Simon Waters
On Thursday 15 May 2008 16:23, Jay Hennigan wrote: > Someone via nanog@nanog.org spammed: > > Tired of > > [snip] > > Can anyone suggest a faster way to get yourself blackholed than to spam > this list? Spammers still spam our abuse address, that might do it. _

Re: [NANOG] Tired of ...

2008-05-15 Thread Jay Hennigan
Someone via nanog@nanog.org spammed: > Tired of [snip] Can anyone suggest a faster way to get yourself blackholed than to spam this list? -- Jay Hennigan - CCIE #7880 - Network Engineering - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Impulse Internet Service - http://www.impulse.net/ Your local telephone and internet

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Thu, 15 May 2008 09:46:05 -0400 Jared Mauch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On May 15, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > I've found that using SSL for all my SMTP and IMAP transactions > > and not entering personally identifying information into non-SSL > > web pages greatly reduces t

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On May 15, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > I've found that using SSL for all my SMTP and IMAP transactions > and not entering personally identifying information into non-SSL > web pages greatly reduces the amount of harvesting results I see. > > As to Charter, I opt out by simply not purch

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Owen DeLong
I've found that using SSL for all my SMTP and IMAP transactions and not entering personally identifying information into non-SSL web pages greatly reduces the amount of harvesting results I see. As to Charter, I opt out by simply not purchasing anything from them. It seems to work far better than

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic for advertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 11:47:22PM +0100, Simon Lockhart wrote: > There's a company called Phorm (www.phorm.com) trying to do this in the UK, > running some trials with some of the large broadband providers. Phorm has been linked to the Russian Business Network (RBN), which is unsurprising given t

Re: [NANOG] Charter Communications going to sniff traffic foradvertising?

2008-05-15 Thread Blake Pfankuch
I noticed this as well with a windows mobile device and activesync over the ail. Enforcing SSL communication seems to have fixed it, as I no longer get these after doing that. Of course this assumes that your mail server does not need plain text authentication. I noticed this a lot when I was

[NANOG] Installation troubles with GlobalCrossing

2008-05-15 Thread Erich Hohermuth
Dear members, I just want to ask if anyone else have major troubles to install new or upgrade services with Global Crossing ? The story: Last year on December we ordered two layer2 point to point connections based on gigabit ethernet connections. The main idea was to directly connect to the peer

Re: [NANOG] Tired of overpaying for meds at your local pharm store? He re is the one stop solution for yo

2008-05-15 Thread Paul Ferguson
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